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#1 batch

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 06:30 PM

Hi, I alredeady posted this topic in "Frontends ans Addons", but I was not sure it was the right place !

 

First of all I want to thank Herweh for this fantastic tool

 

I'm a desktop user and I'm trying for the first time to make a direcb2s file

 

I noticed two things, this topic has been locked (that's why I start a new one), and there's been no update since March 2013 (or perhaps I missed it !)

 

Sure there's something I don't understand !

 

Isn't it possible to improve this tool to bring it at the same level than VPX ?

 

Hope I offend nobody and it's not a bit of scandal !


Edited by batch, 12 September 2018 - 06:39 PM.

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#2 kalavera

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 07:11 PM

No one should be offended by your opinion, I also think it would be very good to update this tool, but as we all know that they do this for hobbies and sometimes do not have time either for the family for work, for health, and that surpasses them.
Maybe later we will get a new version, while, and if we do not have the skills of a programmer to improve this tool we will continue using it.
 
also the tool is updated here

Edited by kalavera, 12 September 2018 - 07:15 PM.


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 07:39 PM

Sorry, but I don't understand how it works !


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 08:41 PM

This is your first time making a dB2S backglass?

What part of the Backglass Designer do you want upgraded?

What are you having a problem with?


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Posted 13 September 2018 - 12:23 AM

I may be mistaken, but I did believe that (one day) the devs are working on making d2bs part of VPX......  I know this won't help you right now batch.....


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Posted 13 September 2018 - 03:00 AM

There is always potential for more. If you watch real pinball backglasses you will also notice the same. Sometimes the reality does look better and sometimes if you believe it or not the digital counterpart is close or does look even better than what the real pinball machine does offer. The conclusion is both worlds offer huge possibilities and are fantastic!

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 04:37 AM

Xenonph, in fact I just don't understand how works the link to SourceForge Kalavera sent me :) (just to be sure "1.2" is the last version)

 

The problem I have is with Illumination, I'd like to be able to decrease Intensity and also to select Dodge color the same way than Intensity or LEDS, whereas I just can choose between Green, Red and so on ...

 

The only other option I have is to set Illumination to "OFF" and to use Intensity color settings

 

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Edited by batch, 13 September 2018 - 04:42 AM.

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 06:44 AM

You could use Snippits for that - own Images, what have the results (looking) what/how you want.



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Posted 13 September 2018 - 05:08 PM

Thanks, STAT, I didn't yet tried this feature

 

It's really a fantastic tool, and I just wondered why there had been no update since 2013

 

And I found no more recent version on SourceForge, but perhaps I just don't understand how to get it !


Edited by batch, 13 September 2018 - 05:17 PM.

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 05:15 PM

Hi,

 

for me movable snippets (x, y coordinates and rotation) would be great. For instance the bagatelle game at Catacomb or the moving rocket in Moonlight have been a nightmare to build using tons of snippet images for each position.

 

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 05:29 PM

B2S Backglass Designer (v1.2)  ---- https://www.vpforums...s&showfile=7549
Latest B2S Backglass Designer (v2.0)  ---- https://www.vpforums...&showfile=16726

B2S Extractor ---  https://vpuniverse.c...5-b2s-extractor
INFO ->>>>>>>>> https://github.com/v.../b2s-backglass/
To get started Double click this file  -- B2SBackglassDesigner.exe
Then Click File, Then import directb2s backglass file

Click window at the top to open small windows if needed
To Copy an image to the hard drive, Right click the image

 

If you are taking a 2 screen backglass and converting it to 3 screen after importing your need to go to File Then settings and select where you want the DMD image to show

 

Saving the BackGlass  -- This is what I do

After you import or Delete something (or make a new one) make your changes then go up to Top where it says backglass, then click create B2S backglass file, then click on backglass preview and test...Then another window will pop up where it gives you a chance to run the backglass and then you can decide where you want to save it

 

Photo editing software to Alter pictures - https://www.getpaint.net/index.html

 

Make sure to check the Designer HELP for lots of Information

 

Designer has a detailed help menu

ID in 1 Visual B2S 1.0.0, LAMPS ID, SOLENOID ID, GI STRING  Testing --  http://vpuniverse.co...n-1-visual-b2s/

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All In One BackGlass ID Finder - https://vpuniverse.c...s#comment-51718

B2S Backglass Designer Topic  -- https://www.vpforums...ic=20961&page=1

Placing Snippits  --  http://vpuniverse.co...acing-snippits/

B2S animation snippet question - https://www.vpforums...topic=47113&hl=

B2S Tutorials  --  http://vpuniverse.co...-b2s-tutorials/

Replace Snippet Image - https://www.vpforums...showtopic=37291

DirectB2s part1 - https://youtu.be/rLxbQWsuqQg

DirectB2s part2 - https://youtu.be/rCiItC61cCI

Video -
 

For more help Click --  SUPPORT TOPIC

 

B2S Designer - Bug fix (LED image with blank)
http://vpuniverse.co...age-with-blank/
Other Info
https://www.vpforums...topic=36726&hl=

 

For the Back Glass (Space Train MAC)

I load the 2 screen back glass into the designer, Then you should have some menus (if you don't Go up to window)
Then I right clicked the back glass image it allows you to save it to your hard drive
Use a photo editing program to crop out the part you want
For the snippits right click save all the snippits into one folder

What I do is open up 2 versions of The Designer then you can use the information from the Original to put in your new BackGlass, Lamp Name, Rom ID, Size

Set grill height - Go up to image, Then grill height, Set grill height

Adding DMD image - click on image, Then import the DMD image

Click on file, settings and tell it where you want image to show up

Once you have your DMD image imported
Go up to illuminations, Then add new illuminations snippits Once import it, Fill in the blanks hit apply move the snippit over the top of the exact same item

To see if you have them lined up correctly Click on the left light bulb at the top

 

If you are making a 3 screen back glass When the score is part of the back glass In the speaker area you will have to click on file, settings and tell it where you want the
b2s DMD location setting to be...  I always say 3rd Monitor

As far as moving the scores delete the scores put them on the DMD image then save the back glass
NOTE: If you delete the scores and save the back glass then tried to put them on the DMD Image (That never works right for me)


Edited by Outhere, 10 May 2025 - 12:13 PM.


#12 kalavera

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 05:58 PM

the Link that happened to you from sourceforge, is just so you can see that you are working and updating the program, if you see there you will see the modification dates, only informative is not to discard anything.



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Posted 13 September 2018 - 06:38 PM

Thanks, Kalavera, I understand version 1.2 is the last one

 

I'll work with this one, and big thanks, Outhere, for the information :tup:


Edited by batch, 13 September 2018 - 06:42 PM.

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 06:09 PM

If you need some help within my means I will help you



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Posted 14 September 2018 - 06:19 PM

Thanks, Kalavera, but there are very few details on my backglass image

 

I'll keep illuminations as they are, and I'm gonna try to use snippit feature

 

I'll do three different files, a green, a black & white and a blue one

 

Anyway, thanks for your proposal :tup:


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Posted 15 September 2018 - 12:25 PM



Thanks, STAT, I didn't yet tried this feature

 

It's really a fantastic tool, and I just wondered why there had been no update since 2013

 

And I found no more recent version on SourceForge, but perhaps I just don't understand how to get it !

 

SourceForge is only code.  It has to be compiled in order to have a usable program.    I haven't had a chance to use the latest build so I'm not sure how improved it is.

 

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Edited by HSM, 15 September 2018 - 12:27 PM.