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[barny1100]

Another question concerns me ..

 

 

I installed Pinup Popper (it's awesome because you don't have to install all programs individually anymore)

with Visual Pinball all tables start perfectly 

..

 

Installed a few VPX and Future Pinball tables

So far so good ... 

 

Then I did an FP and BAM Essentials AIO update like in the great videos from Terry R   (to have FP and Bam up to date)

 

 

Maybe someone can give me a tip?

 

future pinball tables like Alien or Bladerunner, Addams Familly  etc.

 

take a very  long time to load? (up to 1-2 Minutes)

 

Stands 90% of the time injecting textures

 

Did I do something wrong

or can I speed things up?

 

Because loading times of over a minute? 

 

Thanks for every tip 

 

Popper FP  Launch Skript:

rem Enable FP Backglass and Arcade Mode

REG ADD "HKCU\Software\Future Pinball\GamePlayer" /v "ArcadeMode" /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
REG ADD "HKCU\Software\Future Pinball\GamePlayer" /v "SecondMonitorEnable" /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

rem Disable FP Backglass and Arcade Mode if "Custom Launch Param" = PinEvent

if "[custom1]"=="PinEvent" (REG ADD "HKCU\Software\Future Pinball\GamePlayer" /v "ArcadeMode" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f)
if "[custom1]"=="PinEvent" (REG ADD "HKCU\Software\Future Pinball\GamePlayer" /v "SecondMonitorEnable" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f)

CD /d "[DIREMU]"
start /min "" "dmdext.exe" mirror --source=futurepinball -q --virtual-stay-on-top --fps 60 -g "[GAMENAME]" --use-ini="DmdDevice.ini"

 rem Run DMDExt from the FP folder only if "Custom Var #2" = FP_DMDExt

if "[custom2]"=="FP_DMDExt" (CD /d "[DIREMU]")
if "[custom2]"=="FP_DMDExt" (start /min "" "dmdext.exe" mirror --source=futurepinball -q --virtual-stay-on-top --fps 60 -g "[GAMENAME]" --use-ini="DmdDevice.ini")
if "[custom2]"=="FP_DMDExt" (timeout /t 1)

rem Launch Future Pinball

START "" "[STARTDIR]Launch\VPXSTARTER.exe" 10 5 60 "BSP Software*"
START "" "[DIREMU]\BAM\FPLoader.exe" /open "[GAMEFULLNAME]" /play /exit /arcaderender /STAYINRAM

 

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Close Skript :

 

"[STARTDIR]LAUNCH\PUPCLOSER.EXE" WINTIT "Future Pinball" 2 1

REG ADD "HKCU\Software\Future Pinball\GamePlayer" /v "ArcadeMode" /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
REG ADD "HKCU\Software\Future Pinball\GamePlayer" /v "SecondMonitorEnable" /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

if "[custom2]"=="FP_DMDExt" (taskkill /f /im "dmdext.exe")

 

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[fhjui]

you haven't decribed your hardware configuration and what version of table you have tested. There are several versions of TAF or Bladerunner.

Especially the PinEvent tables need more over 60 sek to load.

Future pinball is a 14 year old 32bit program, which can max. address 4BG of RAM ,that means its windows default memory is 2GB RAM for user-space and 2GB RAM for kernel space.

For the new FP-tables with high memory requirements, its important to use the recent patched version of fploader und future pinball, where the RAM limit is moved to 3:1 for Userspace and kernelspace. https://pinballnirva...-complete.8159/

But that has not much to do with the loading time of these tables.

More important is the max CPU-clock, especially the boost clock of the cpu. If the clock is 20% higher the table loads nearly 20% faster.

Edited by fhjui, 04 March 2024 - 10:10 AM.

[fourbanks]

i have a basic 4.2 AMD processor and all futures tables load in under a minute. Cost wise, a very good upgrade 

[barny1100]

Thanks for the feedback

 

The one with the event tables I did not know...

Didn't know that these tables affect the loading time so much?

Can I do that with the tables at the respective table?

control somehow?

 installed Pinup Popper

with Visual Pinball all tables start perfectly

Installed a few VPX and Future Pinball tables

 

So far so good ... 

 

Then I did an FP and BAM Essentials AIO update like in the great videos from Terry R   (to have FP and Bam up to date)

I also make

the 4GB patch after update  in the FP folder and Bam folder.

My hardware:

Three monitors

 

42" LED FHD TV

27" LED FHD monitor

19" Marquee Monitor 1680(RGB)×342

My PC is a Ryzen 5 2600 with 6 cores

32GB DDR4 2600 RAM

and graphics card a GTX 1060 with 6GB DDR5

PC with NVME SSD

Programs on normal SSD

 

I used the ULTIMATE tables / versions of Megaupload

 

Aliens Legacy ULTIMATE Pro 1.03

 

Blade Runner ULTIMATE Pro 1.04

 

The Addams Family ULTIMATE Pro 1.05

ect..

 

 I'm grateful for any tips on what I can check or change so that the loading times don't take so long..

 

 

ps

And please be patient with me if I don't get it right away

but had a minor stroke 2 years ago

Since then I've had a little more difficulty with the programs

Edited by barny1100, 07 March 2024 - 06:14 PM.

[TerryRed]

 

Thanks for the feedback

 

The one with the event tables I did not know...

Didn't know that these tables affect the loading time so much?

Can I do that with the tables at the respective table?

control somehow?

 installed Pinup Popper

with Visual Pinball all tables start perfectly

Installed a few VPX and Future Pinball tables

 

So far so good ... 

 

Then I did an FP and BAM Essentials AIO update like in the great videos from Terry R   (to have FP and Bam up to date)

I also make

the 4GB patch after update  in the FP folder and Bam folder.

My hardware:

Three monitors

 

42" LED FHD TV

27" LED FHD monitor

19" Marquee Monitor 1680(RGB)×342

My PC is a Ryzen 5 2600 with 6 cores

32GB DDR4 2600 RAM

and graphics card a GTX 1060 with 6GB DDR5

PC with NVME SSD

Programs on normal SSD

 

I used the ULTIMATE tables / versions of Megaupload

 

Aliens Legacy ULTIMATE Pro 1.03

 

Blade Runner ULTIMATE Pro 1.04

 

The Addams Family ULTIMATE Pro 1.05

ect..

 

 I'm grateful for any tips on what I can check or change so that the loading times don't take so long..

 

 

ps

And please be patient with me if I don't get it right away

but had a minor stroke 2 years ago

Since then I've had a little more difficulty with the programs

 

 

I had a major stroke 2 years ago and heart surgery, so I get it.

 

If you install the FP and BAM Essnetials AIO, you don't need to apply the 4 GB patch as it's already done. All that patch does is allow FP to access 4 GB ram. It won't change how fast it loads a table.

 

The tables that take a long time to load are those that had many videos added "directly" to the table itself (mostly those created / modded by SLAMT1LT). The ends being in some cases 3000+ textures that need to be "injected", so that's why those tables take a long time compared to other tables.

 

The only thing you can do to speed up loading is to change (in FP video settings) Texture Filtering from Trilinear to Bilinear. This will speed up loading on those tables a lot, but it may cause some things to not look as nice (you may get aliasing, etc), depending on GPU drivers, ec. Try it and see if you see any difference and if you prefer the faster loading times.

 

Also, you will want to try the newest PinEvent tables, as they have new FizX physics (which plays MUCH better) and new lighting, shadows, etc... and they are updates / mods to some of those same tables, only with many new features added.

 

https://www.vpforums...oads&showcat=58