1488 replies to this topic

[BorgDog]

So I played around with Git and SVN and sourceforge today at work (was a slow day), but I have no idea what I'm doing so don't know how to submit a change back for you to integrate into VP.  Long story short all I want to do is change the dimensions for Gottlieb System 80 Widebody to 23.875" x 47.875" as has been verified on at least two of the actual machines. If you guys could make that change I would appreciate it, thanks.

[sliderpoint]

Speaking of dimensions manager, is there any way to put an 'apply' button in there that will copy the values to the active table?  I feel like that was asked before, but don't remember.

 

-Mike

[fuzzel]

Speaking of dimensions manager, is there any way to put an 'apply' button in there that will copy the values to the active table?  I feel like that was asked before, but don't remember.
 
-Mike

I'll take a look

[toxie]

 

BAM is to be in VP11 ? Does it mean that VP11 will be 3d ?

 

 

I think the real question should be: Will VP11 have 3D dynamic lighting?

 

That's my plan at least. But i don't know when this can happen. At the moment i'm still mostly flooded with real life stuff.

So I played around with Git and SVN and sourceforge today at work (was a slow day), but I have no idea what I'm doing so don't know how to submit a change back for you to integrate into VP.  Long story short all I want to do is change the dimensions for Gottlieb System 80 Widebody to 23.875" x 47.875" as has been verified on at least two of the actual machines. If you guys could make that change I would appreciate it, thanks.

 

will do, thanks!!

[Ben Logan]

BAM scheduled for VP11 is truly exciting. Will be a triumphant day for guys like Dark. I can wait...

 

[fuzzel]

rev3582 is up:

 

- add apply button to the dimensions manager to apply the selected dimension to the active table.
- add BorgDogs Gottlieb System 80 (widebody) change
- restore prev behavior that each script editor window is a global one
 

[3rdaxis]

Hey guys, just wanted to bring something to your attention if it is in fact an issue with VP or just something I'm doing wrong. I've noticed the ball will occasionally phase through the pop bumpers every now and then. We did some basic testing on the example table and were able to recreate it but only by manually moving the ball with ball control. I could be wrong but it seems to happen more and possibly only when the bumper is invisible? 

Example here at 4:33  https://youtu.be/lCvxs91qelk?t=272

Edited by 3rdaxis, 09 December 2018 - 04:40 PM.

[fuzzel]

Thanks! I know that kiwi reported that long ago in the 10.4 or 10.5 beta phase but we are unable to reproduce it. Knowing it has to do with the invisible option could help finding it.

[kiwi]

I had general lighting connected to the bumpers, lights on = bumper enabled, lights off = bumper disabled.

Bumper1.HasHitEvent = True
 
Bumper1.HasHitEvent = False

 
When the lights went on and off, something messed up the state of the bumpers, and caused the issue.

 
Now the bumpers and slingshots are connected in a standard way with the classic Tilt routine.

[Thalamus]

On latest and first time I've managed to crash a table twice with reboot in between. Have adjusted my video settings so it might be related - or even the table. First time I played it. Mini dump not saved so maybe impossible to figure out ?

Crash report VPX rev3582
============
Process: VPinballX.exe
Reason: 0xC0000005 - EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION at 0023:711B1AF7
Attempt to read from 0x00000000
Thread ID: 0xE1C [3612]

Call stack
==========
 (0x711DB704 0x10746C70 0x10746C70 0x0018ed40)
 (0x00000000 0x108B7520 0x00000001 0x0018ed58)
 (0x00000001 0x006727F0 0x10753890 0x108b7520)
 (0x00000001 0x00000000 0x00000001 0x0018ed88)
 (0x00000000 0x00000000 0x711A34B0 0x10a43ed0)
 (0x10753890 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000)
 (0x00000000 0x3EF6212C 0xFFFFFFFFBF47AE14 0x00000000)
 (0x02D4C340 0x0B2160F4 0x00000000 0x3b87ce9b)
 (0x050C43C0 0x0000001C 0x00000004 0x0000000a)
 (0x02D58C00 0x050C43C0 0x00000000 0x00000001)
 (0x00000003 0x003B7608 0x00000409 0x00000001)
 (0x00000003 0x050C43C0 0x00000409 0x00000001)
 (0x00000003 0x00000001 0x00000000 0x00000005)
 (0x003B7608 0x0018F430 0x00000001 0x00000000)
 (0x00000000 0xFFFFFFFFF4FD7007 0x04598E90 0x00000000)
 (0x00000000 0x0018F5E0 0x71035CC0 0x003b7608)
 (0x00000000 0x00000000 0x04598E90 0x04598e90)
 (0x0B2873F0 0x00000514 0x00561FFC 0x00000400)
 (0x00000514 0x00561FFC 0x00000400 0x00000001)
 (0xFFFFFFFF88048D08 0xFFFFFFFFD072F03B 0x335F5B5D 0x08c25ec0)
 (0xFFFFFFFFD072F03B 0x335F5B5D 0x08C25EC0 0xffffffffcccccc00)
 (0x335F5B5D 0x08C25EC0 0xFFFFFFFFCCCCCC00 0xffffffffcccccccc)
 (0x08C25EC0 0xFFFFFFFFCCCCCC00 0xFFFFFFFFCCCCCCCC 0xffffffff8df18b56)
 (0xFFFFFFFFCCCCCC00 0xFFFFFFFFCCCCCCCC 0xFFFFFFFF8DF18B56 0x01c7044e)
 (0xFFFFFFFFCCCCCCCC 0xFFFFFFFF8DF18B56 0x01C7044E 0x0066e3a0)
 (0xFFFFFFFF8DF18B56 0x01C7044E 0x0066E3A0 0xffffffffe4a806c7)
 (0x01C7044E 0x0066E3A0 0xFFFFFFFFE4A806C7 0x19e80066)
 (0x0066E3A0 0xFFFFFFFFE4A806C7 0x19E80066 0xfffffffff6000009)
 (0xFFFFFFFFE4A806C7 0x19E80066 0xFFFFFFFFF6000009 0x01082444)
 (0x19E80066 0xFFFFFFFFF6000009 0x01082444 0xffffffffe8560974)
 (0x0052C200 0x00452890 0x00452860 0x004529e0)
 (0x00452890 0x00452860 0x004529E0 0x00452aa0)
 (0x00452860 0x004529E0 0x00452AA0 0x00452f80)
 (0x004529E0 0x00452AA0 0x00452F80 0x00452750)
 (0x00452AA0 0x00452F80 0x00452750 0x00450865)
 (0x00452F80 0x00452750 0x00450865 0x0052c200)
 (0x00452750 0x00450865 0x0052C200 0x0052c200)
 (0x00450865 0x0052C200 0x0052C200 0x0052c200)
 (0x0052C200  (0x0044E300 0x (0x00000001 0x00000000 0x000000
Environment
===========
Date/time: 9/12/2018, 13:14:01:698
Number of CPUs: 4
Processor type: 586
System: Windows 7

Memory status
=============
Total Reserved: 140248K (136M) bytes
Total Commited: 4038664K (3944M) bytes
Total Free: 15328K (14M) bytes
Largest Free: 64K (0M) bytes

Registers
=========
EAX=00000000 EBX=04951CAC ECX=04951CB0 EDX=71173194
ESI=10746C70 EDI=10746CDC EBP=071D3400 ESP=0066E4D4 EIP=0066E4E8
FLG=00010293 CS=0023 DS=002B SS=002B ES=002B FS=0053 GS=002B


Failed to save minidump.

 

[3rdaxis]

Thanks! I know that kiwi reported that long ago in the 10.4 or 10.5 beta phase but we are unable to reproduce it. Knowing it has to do with the invisible option could help finding it.

Okay, i was able to put a simple file together to try and replicate the bumper problem and it does. This has the Firepower Bumpers in the same configuration (VP Bumpers are not visible) with triggers tied to msgbox's to detect the bug.

After a few moments the ball will phase through all four bumpers and display a message.  Invisibility does not seem to make a difference but I'm going to continue to change the conditions until I can find something consistent.  

https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

Edited by 3rdaxis, 09 December 2018 - 04:43 PM.

[3rdaxis]

Another request I would have for the next release would be to have a local control for volume levels to override global levels. I noticed some people playing my tables can't hear the "Sound Effects Volume" as intended by me because their global setting is set differently to mine. So I have no control over the audio. I wouldn't want to completely override their settings i know people have them set to a specific level for their build but maybe just a setting under Table Options/User Customization like In-Game AO and Anti-Aliasing have an "On" or "Default" setting. 

 

Here is a video uploaded by a user showing the issue. You can barely hear the core sound effects as I intended.  https://www.youtube....h?v=lCvxs91qelk

Edited by 3rdaxis, 09 December 2018 - 06:09 PM.

[gStAv]

 

 

BAM is to be in VP11 ? Does it mean that VP11 will be 3d ?

 

 

I think the real question should be: Will VP11 have 3D dynamic lighting?

 

That's my plan at least. But i don't know when this can happen. At the moment i'm still mostly flooded with real life stuff.

So I played around with Git and SVN and sourceforge today at work (was a slow day), but I have no idea what I'm doing so don't know how to submit a change back for you to integrate into VP.  Long story short all I want to do is change the dimensions for Gottlieb System 80 Widebody to 23.875" x 47.875" as has been verified on at least two of the actual machines. If you guys could make that change I would appreciate it, thanks.

 

will do, thanks!!

 

 

That's sounds like a great vision team

 

If success, does this mean that VP11 will be less cpu and maybe gpu-intensive as well at the same time as it would use a more modern rendering engine or something?

I "only" have a GTX970 now, and some tables can not be played as they should!

[fuzzel]

On latest and first time I've managed to crash a table twice with reboot in between. Have adjusted my video settings so it might be related - or even the table. First time I played it. Mini dump not saved so maybe impossible to figure out ?

Crash report VPX rev3582
============
Process: VPinballX.exe
Reason: 0xC0000005 - EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION at 0023:711B1AF7
Attempt to read from 0x00000000
Thread ID: 0xE1C [3612]

Call stack
==========
 (0x711DB704 0x10746C70 0x10746C70 0x0018ed40)
 (0x00000000 0x108B7520 0x00000001 0x0018ed58)
 (0x00000001 0x006727F0 0x10753890 0x108b7520)
 (0x00000001 0x00000000 0x00000001 0x0018ed88)
 (0x00000000 0x00000000 0x711A34B0 0x10a43ed0)
 (0x10753890 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000)
 (0x00000000 0x3EF6212C 0xFFFFFFFFBF47AE14 0x00000000)
 (0x02D4C340 0x0B2160F4 0x00000000 0x3b87ce9b)
 (0x050C43C0 0x0000001C 0x00000004 0x0000000a)
 (0x02D58C00 0x050C43C0 0x00000000 0x00000001)
 (0x00000003 0x003B7608 0x00000409 0x00000001)
 (0x00000003 0x050C43C0 0x00000409 0x00000001)
 (0x00000003 0x00000001 0x00000000 0x00000005)
 (0x003B7608 0x0018F430 0x00000001 0x00000000)
 (0x00000000 0xFFFFFFFFF4FD7007 0x04598E90 0x00000000)
 (0x00000000 0x0018F5E0 0x71035CC0 0x003b7608)
 (0x00000000 0x00000000 0x04598E90 0x04598e90)
 (0x0B2873F0 0x00000514 0x00561FFC 0x00000400)
 (0x00000514 0x00561FFC 0x00000400 0x00000001)
 (0xFFFFFFFF88048D08 0xFFFFFFFFD072F03B 0x335F5B5D 0x08c25ec0)
 (0xFFFFFFFFD072F03B 0x335F5B5D 0x08C25EC0 0xffffffffcccccc00)
 (0x335F5B5D 0x08C25EC0 0xFFFFFFFFCCCCCC00 0xffffffffcccccccc)
 (0x08C25EC0 0xFFFFFFFFCCCCCC00 0xFFFFFFFFCCCCCCCC 0xffffffff8df18b56)
 (0xFFFFFFFFCCCCCC00 0xFFFFFFFFCCCCCCCC 0xFFFFFFFF8DF18B56 0x01c7044e)
 (0xFFFFFFFFCCCCCCCC 0xFFFFFFFF8DF18B56 0x01C7044E 0x0066e3a0)
 (0xFFFFFFFF8DF18B56 0x01C7044E 0x0066E3A0 0xffffffffe4a806c7)
 (0x01C7044E 0x0066E3A0 0xFFFFFFFFE4A806C7 0x19e80066)
 (0x0066E3A0 0xFFFFFFFFE4A806C7 0x19E80066 0xfffffffff6000009)
 (0xFFFFFFFFE4A806C7 0x19E80066 0xFFFFFFFFF6000009 0x01082444)
 (0x19E80066 0xFFFFFFFFF6000009 0x01082444 0xffffffffe8560974)
 (0x0052C200 0x00452890 0x00452860 0x004529e0)
 (0x00452890 0x00452860 0x004529E0 0x00452aa0)
 (0x00452860 0x004529E0 0x00452AA0 0x00452f80)
 (0x004529E0 0x00452AA0 0x00452F80 0x00452750)
 (0x00452AA0 0x00452F80 0x00452750 0x00450865)
 (0x00452F80 0x00452750 0x00450865 0x0052c200)
 (0x00452750 0x00450865 0x0052C200 0x0052c200)
 (0x00450865 0x0052C200 0x0052C200 0x0052c200)
 (0x0052C200  (0x0044E300 0x (0x00000001 0x00000000 0x000000
Environment
===========
Date/time: 9/12/2018, 13:14:01:698
Number of CPUs: 4
Processor type: 586
System: Windows 7

Memory status
=============
Total Reserved: 140248K (136M) bytes
Total Commited: 4038664K (3944M) bytes
Total Free: 15328K (14M) bytes
Largest Free: 64K (0M) bytes

Registers
=========
EAX=00000000 EBX=04951CAC ECX=04951CB0 EDX=71173194
ESI=10746C70 EDI=10746CDC EBP=071D3400 ESP=0066E4D4 EIP=0066E4E8
FLG=00010293 CS=0023 DS=002B SS=002B ES=002B FS=0053 GS=002B


Failed to save minidump.

Sorry I can't find the spot where it crashed. Seems to be somewhere in a windows dll maybe some COM related thing but based on the crash dump I'm not able to find the root of the crash in VPX.

[Thalamus]

Well. That is useful information fuzzel. Have a feeling that it is my real dmd, so, thank you for the pointer !

[RYSr]

Exported the table physics on ACDC ( or any other table I tried) to a VPP file. If I import it to another table all the values populate as they should.

 

But if I go the Global Physics Options and pick a set then Import the VPP file, On flipper settings, the flipper strength populates the elasticity field and the return strength populates the strength field and the return strength field with the same setting.

I went back and tried 10.5,10.4 and 10.31 final versions and got the same problem. However if I run 10.2 final the fields populate as they should.

 

What's worse if I go into a table in user customizations and set Overwrite physics by global set and pick one between 1-8 there doesn't seem to be any change to the table's play.

 

I even set one to flipper strength of 10 and the flippers were normal strength. 

 

I haven't played with Global physics for a long time, is this a bug or something wrong on my end. Everything else seems to be working normally. I'm currently using 10.6 R3569 and SamVPM 3.2 

[fuzzel]

rev3584 is up:

 

- fix ball through bumper issue

- check gate type explicitly for tables that were saved in the phase where it could've been undefined some years ago

 

Note: please test this revision a bit more because I had to change just a bit in the physics engine to fix the bumper issue. I don't think that the change has any impact on other elements like gates, flippers or gates but who knows

Edited by fuzzel, 12 December 2018 - 07:04 PM.

[NailBuster]

wanted to let you know I just tested the Custom Params via vpx commandline in 10.6 and it works wonderful...perfect.

 

thanks for the feature.  Now, the next version of Popper will support 'alt-run profiles' with same vpx file so opens up lots of customizing via script/launch.

[toxie]

 

rev3584 is up:

 

- fix ball through bumper issue

- check gate type explicitly for tables that were saved in the phase where it could've been undefined some years ago

 

Note: please test this revision a bit more because I had to change just a bit in the physics engine to fix the bumper issue. I don't think that the change has any impact on other elements like gates, flippers or gates but who knows

 

 

It could potentially influence bumpers, kickers and triggers.

[toxie]

Exported the table physics on ACDC ( or any other table I tried) to a VPP file. If I import it to another table all the values populate as they should.

 

But if I go the Global Physics Options and pick a set then Import the VPP file, On flipper settings, the flipper strength populates the elasticity field and the return strength populates the strength field and the return strength field with the same setting.

I went back and tried 10.5,10.4 and 10.31 final versions and got the same problem. However if I run 10.2 final the fields populate as they should.

 

What's worse if I go into a table in user customizations and set Overwrite physics by global set and pick one between 1-8 there doesn't seem to be any change to the table's play.

 

I even set one to flipper strength of 10 and the flippers were normal strength. 

 

I haven't played with Global physics for a long time, is this a bug or something wrong on my end. Everything else seems to be working normally. I'm currently using 10.6 R3569 and SamVPM 3.2 

 

Will look into this, thanks!