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Zaccaria Pinball: What's with the terrible backglasses?

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#1 SixOfTwelve

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Posted 20 October 2022 - 08:54 AM

After seeing a real life "Robot" table in the wild recently, I bit the bullet yesterday and installed the Steam Zaccaria Pinball app on my 3-screen cab.

So far it plays nice, cabinet mode works with two screens, I even got my VirtuaPin plunger and nudging implemented via AutoHotKey. Table launch works with a combination of AutoHotKey scripts and a bit of fiddling with my PinballX settings.

 

HOWEVER.

 

(Jerry Seinfeld voice) What's the deal with those terrible backglasses?

 

Almost all of them are low-res, smudged-looking and bleached out. Which is super weird because if you cycle through the camera angles, you can see that they actually have pretty nice-looking backglass graphic assets in the 3D models of their tables. It's just the images that are used on the second monitor that look like crap. And I'm not talking about the stretch factor (I use a resolution of 1600x1200, so it's not so bad for the SS tables - the EM ones look a bit worse), but strictly the quality of the image source.

 

Now I get that tables like Time Machine and Farfalla may be difficult to reproduce on a flat surface due to the nature of the plastic molding, but there is just no excuse for some of the others.

I tried switching some of the graphics settings around (turning the glass off, reducing reflection and weather and so on), but that only seems to effect the playfield, not the backglass.

 

Am I doing something wrong (like missing a high-res/lo-res toggle button in a menu somewhere), or is that just the way it is at the moment?



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Posted 21 October 2022 - 02:45 PM

I believe that what makes it difficult to have quality tables and rear windows is the lack of material with good definition for reproduction...
 
Wildman has some very nice working rear windows for some Zaccaria tables, but I don't know if they are applicable to the system you are using.   https://vpuniverse.c...-zaccaria-1985/
 
I believe someone more experienced can give you a better return.
 
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Edited by teisen, 21 October 2022 - 02:45 PM.

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#3 SixOfTwelve

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Posted 21 October 2022 - 03:29 PM

 

I believe that what makes it difficult to have quality tables and rear windows is the lack of material with good definition for reproduction...

 

Yeah, but that's the part that's weird to me... they have good looking backglass graphics in their 3D modeled tables, so it's not like they don't have good source material. But they appear to be using different, much worse looking images for the backglass graphics when you choose to display them on your second screen.

 

Also, I'm aware of the Wildman backglasses and use a lot of them on my VPX tables. Unfortunately there is no way (that I know of) to import them into the Zaccaria app. :-)


Edited by SixOfTwelve, 21 October 2022 - 03:30 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2022 - 08:33 PM

I have the Zaccaria tables for the AtGames Legends Pinball, and think the backglasses look pretty sharp. I don't remember if I have done the Zaccaria through steam on that machine yet, since getting the new graphics card.  I'll need to check that. 


Edited by Dizzy D3vil, 21 October 2022 - 08:34 PM.


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Posted 28 May 2023 - 11:12 PM

I just got Zaccaria via Steam up and running on my vpin.

Same issue.  The backglass images are terribly low quality.

 

I'm hoping there is a way to switch out image files somewhere....







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