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[Storm312]

I've started setting up VPX tables on my virtual cab and I've started with 3: Attack From Mars, Addams Family, and Terminator 2 Chrome Edition. For the Addams Family table, the DMD window shows up perfectly fine and is above the backglass. However, for the other two tables, the DMD window does not show up at all. I've tried ALT-TABing and I see the DMD window in the ALT-TAB interface (even animating to what the DMD is currently showing), but the actual window is nowhere to be found on the desktop. I checked behind the playfield, backglass, etc..., switched to windowed mode, there's nothing there.    If I hover over the DMD window in the taskbar, Windows will usually temporarily hide all other windows and show that one, but that does nothing. The B2S settings (via right clicking the backglass) are the same across all tables.

 

I noticed the AFM and Terminator table use a 'controller.vbs' to load the controller while the Addams Family table uses a 'cController' method... not sure if there's something related to that but I briefly checked over the scripts and didn't see anything wrong with how the controllers are set up and configured. I'm forcing full screen/rotate screen view configs in VPX.

 

Any ideas?

 

Versions:

VPX 10.3.1

PinMAME 2.9

B2S 1.3.0.2

Windows 10 64-bit

[Thalamus]

https://www.pinballb...les/setdmd.html

 

One of many possible solutions.

[allknowing2012]

Some of the older tables require a quick edit where you enable the directb2s (b2s) functions of the table.

[Storm312]

Thanks, SetDMD made the window appear.

[LeChucksBeard]

I have a similar issue with some tables, just a few of the older ones, and haven't found the cause yet.

 

For example Space Station. By editing the backglass options and forcing the DMD to be "visible" as opposed to "standard", I can have the DMD appear, but it is the "ugly" DMD, the emulation type, while the directB2S file has a nicer one available (I tried all the directB2s files I could find), with graphic background.

 

I haven't found a combination of settings to get that one to appear. When I alt-tab, I can see both DMD types, but nothing is there when tabbing to the B2S DMD (the formDMD window), as it is not present anywhere on the 3 screens. The regular DMD places itself in the correct location as with all the other tables. It feels as if the regular DMD might be on top of the B2S DMD, but that's just a guess and could be wrong. Setting the regular DMD to hidden hides it but does not reveal the B2S DMD. That one is still in the alt-tab menu, but nowhere else.

 

Diner does the same thing.

 

Any idea?

 

(I've used setDMD as well)

[32assassin]

Space Station and Diner are Alpha Numeric tables,  not DMD.  You are suppose to have your scoring displays in the backglass not on the 3rd monitor (aka DMD)

 

The only way to have the score in a 3d monitor is by placing the simulated PinMAME window in your 3rd monitor.

 

 

their are a hand full of dB2s files that will place an Alpha numeric score in your 3rd monitor.  But this is done by how the dB2s is built. 

You need to look for "3 screen" support db2s files. their are many available but most are found in other sites.

Edited by 32assassin, 04 November 2017 - 01:00 AM.

[LeChucksBeard]

Of course, I am using the 3 screen versions of the directb2s for these tables just as I did for the 40 tables that I've installed. And the directb2s files I am using for Space Station and Diner have their own DMDs. Just cannot get them to show up in screen.

Edited by LeChucksBeard, 04 November 2017 - 05:39 AM.

[xenonph]

When you have table loaded and ready to play, click F1 on your keyboard.

This will bring up ROM Menu settings. (As seen in pic.)

Make sure you have "Use External DMD(dll)" checkmarked.

 

 

This will work on a per table per rom basis.

If you want all of your tables to do this, click setup.exe to start the install of your PinMAME.

But instead of installing you will just click "Setup Defaults".

This will bring up the same ROM menu setiings window, except now when you checkmark "Use External DMD(dll)", it will be for all tables.

 

Hope this helps you.

[LeChucksBeard]

Thank you. I hadn't paid attention to that option as I thought it was for real DMD screens.

 

This didn't help me show the specific B2S version of the DMD on those older tables, but it does give a much better looking regular DMD. I activated that for all the tables and went to hide the DMD and B2S DMD for all the backglasses. Good thing I don't have 700 of them installed

[gtxjoe]

To see the B2S created DMD area you have to fill in the DMD size and offset in the screenres.txt file. Post yours if you need more gelp

[LeChucksBeard]

Already done since the beginning, plus they are all setup in the registry as well with size and x-offset. All my DMDs are displaying in the correct spot on the correct monitor, just not those few directb2s DMDs for those few older tables. But that's ok, for my own issue I'm happy with the external DMD mod explained above.

[Mooserules]

When you have table loaded and ready to play, click F1 on your keyboard.
This will bring up ROM Menu settings. (As seen in pic.)
Make sure you have "Use External DMD(dll)" checkmarked.
 

 
This will work on a per table per rom basis.
If you want all of your tables to do this, click setup.exe to start the install of your PinMAME.
But instead of installing you will just click "Setup Defaults".
This will bring up the same ROM menu setiings window, except now when you checkmark "Use External DMD(dll)", it will be for all tables.
 
Hope this helps you.

I lost all my DmDs and I see my external is not checked, but I cant use my mouse to check it on my three screen setup. Any idea how I can pull this screen up when a table isnt running?

[wiesshund]

Already done since the beginning, plus they are all setup in the registry as well with size and x-offset. All my DMDs are displaying in the correct spot on the correct monitor, just not those few directb2s DMDs for those few older tables. But that's ok, for my own issue I'm happy with the external DMD mod explained above.

 

a DirectB2S pseudo DMD is dictated by screenres.txt
If it specifies no LED size and location, then B2S server assumes there is no LCD panel to display it on
and it continues to display as a 2screen setup

 

I assume you are referring to this kind of display?

 

[xenonph]

Go into your VPinMAME folder and click the Setup.exe file.

Then Click Setup Defaults tab.

Now checkmark Use External DMD.

Click OK at bottom.

 

[Mooserules]

Got it checked in the default setup works for some games some still missing. Any ideas? Tired reloading a game that didnt work and still missing.

[xenonph]

I was just answering your question how to change the settings without starting a table.

I am not an External DMD expert, so perhaps someone else can help you with this problem.

Perhaps names of tables that are giving you the problems, would help the next person help you better.

[wiesshund]

Got it checked in the default setup works for some games some still missing. Any ideas? Tired reloading a game that didnt work and still missing.

 

What table?

 

People just walk around saying i cant see my DMD and give 0 further detail
and at that point everyone is forced to guess on answers, because everyone runs around pointing and says DMD
when the ONLY thing that is actually a DMD is the Dot Matrix output from a ROM, or the user created Dot Matrix output from FlexDMD
and none of the other stuff is a DMD at all, since DMD literally means Dot Matrix Display

 

So tell us what table you are talking about, so we know if you are even talking about an actual DMD or not.

[Mooserules]

Thx for the reply I appreciate it. Kiss stern 2015. For this table when I hit F1 with it running nothing comes up. For the other games I was able to recheck show dmd display window and it fixed it but I cant get to this screen for kiss. Reloaded table and files same issue.

[Mooserules]

Thx for the reply I appreciate it. Kiss stern 2015. For this table when I hit F1 with it running nothing comes up. For the other games I was able to recheck show dmd display window and it fixed it but I cant get to this screen for kiss. Reloaded table and files same issue.

[wiesshund]

Thx for the reply I appreciate it. Kiss stern 2015. For this table when I hit F1 with it running nothing comes up. For the other games I was able to recheck show dmd display window and it fixed it but I cant get to this screen for kiss. Reloaded table and files same issue.

 

Kiss Stern 2015 does not use a ROM so there is no F1 function

KISS (Stern 2015) - VPForums.org

 

It uses UltraDMD (so now FlexDMD)

 

I would have to look at the table.

 

Do you have flexDMD installed, registered (as both flexDMD and UltraDMD) and functional in general?