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[Grimlockwheelie]

Hi, I'm getting a vbsscript  error in visual pinball 10.4 beat when I go to load a table. (not all just some)  They worked fine yesterday but tried to get some stern tables working today and really messed things up.  I seem to have everything back to the point before I tried the stern stuff but something must be off.  It doesn't help that windows updated and made me change back screen settings etc.  

 

The error is VBS SCRIPT   

Modulated Flashers/Solinoids are not supported with this visual PinMame version (2.8 or newer is required)

 

What is odd here I believe I had 2.7 as of yesterday when they were working fine.  I got this error I figured since I had messed up everything else updating PinMame might be a place to start (since that's what the message said)  I did so, and still get this message.  They play fine but having the error pop up isn't Pinballx friendly.

 

All help will be of course appreciated.  I'm a newbie, making newbie mistakes, been working on this for about 2 weeks now, and these are the first 2 problems I haven't found a solution for. (This and another that was solved)

 

Thank you

Edited by Grimlockwheelie, 26 September 2017 - 06:28 PM.

[Thalamus]

Some table makes us needing to guess ... why not tell us exactly what table is failing ?

Help us help you - I'm not a mind reader, though it would be cool to be

You could most probably get away with the whole problem by running the one-in-all installer all
over again using the same paths as before. Then upgrade to 10.4 like you did earlier.

Edited by Thalamus, 26 September 2017 - 06:35 PM.

[xenonph]

Try updating your PinMAME as support for modulated flashers/solenoids wasnt added until PinMAME version 2.8.

Only some of the newer tables have been built with this modulated flashers/solenoids, as it only came available when PinMAME was updated to 2.8. So then table authors started adding these modulated flashers/solenoids to table.

 

Find PinMAME 2.9 here...http://www.vpforums....&showfile=11571

 

Simply copy the contents to your visual pinball folder and overwrite when asked.

Then double click Setup.exe, and click install. you will now have upgraded version of PinMAME installed and will be able to play tables that have this newer flasher/solenoid supported.

[Grimlockwheelie]

Sorry, you are right, and also thank you for teaching me forum edicate (serriously trying to put a good foot forward here

World_Cup_Soccer_1.2

The Machine - Bride Of Pinbot (Williams 1991)_1.3

Medieval Madness Reloaded 1.0_PMDv3.1

 

Others like King Kong, Taxi, TOTAN, Tommy, all work fine without the error.

2 of the 3 I tried to load as I was messing things up, with the Stern table try.   Bride of Pinbot I don't believe I did.  (could be wrong but can't go back in time now to figure out.

 

I did reinstall(full installer), and upgraded to 10.4 as mentioned.(Prior to this post, that was part of my getting it back to where it was)(saw you suggested it in another place that I was looking for results that would fit this so I figured start there.

 

 

On a side note ...Reading minds would be great, just would love to be able to turn it on and off.   

 

Thank you for being so helpful, found the donate tag, when I get this done, time to become a lifetime member.  (clear I'll need it here or there)  I bow to your expertise.

[xenonph]

Umm, installing VPinMAME version 2.9 will fix all those errors. As I said above your last post.

I don't believe the All-In-One installer has the newer PinMAME included. If it did, you wouldn't be getting these modulated flasher/solenoid errors.

Edited by xenonph, 26 September 2017 - 07:09 PM.

[Grimlockwheelie]

I'll do 2.9 it says I have 2.8 installed.

 

I'll give it a try.

[xenonph]

I think this GI modulated flasher/solenoid update was added in version 2.8b.

But version 2.9 will have it also.

[Grimlockwheelie]

Now everything is acting slow and sluggish (unplayable (flipper sticks up, dmd now functioning right, stuck on score from quick try of play.)   Does this likely have to do with the PINDMD3 dmd files I have to put where they go or does PINMAME newer files cover that? (don't wana put old DLLs in if already covered)

[xenonph]

Not sure about PINDMD, I don't own a cab.

Try restarting table, as starting it the first time on new install, you may get weird table behaviour.

See if you have same behaviour after restarting table.

I will let someone who actually knows more about PINDMD help you with that.

[Grimlockwheelie]

Ran the setup64.exe and that has the table playing better (is this the one I should be running all the time (only see setup.exe mentioned)  (seems like I should be (64bit system) but want to be sure being new to all this.    DMD is still wonky and not right, so thinking the dlls are necc. from virtuapin  Just want to confirm before I jack something up again.

[xenonph]

Run the Setup.exe...not the Setup64.exe

 

I also have a 64bit system. But always use the setup.exe and not setup64.exe.

It has always worked on my system.

Edited by xenonph, 26 September 2017 - 07:32 PM.

[Grimlockwheelie]

ok, reran it again (installing 2.9)   works, plays ok, DMD is sticky, slow, doesn't react right.   I replace the pinMame.dll the pindmd.dll and the bass.dll from Virtuapin, and then back to the message.   So at least I know that is causing it.   However, When i redrop 2.9 into PinMame and overwrite and run setup.exe it wipes those dlls from Virtuapin, and gives me the non working slow DMD.   So, bit of a catch 22 here.

 

Thank you for all your help thus far, and of course the continuing efforts.

[xenonph]

After clicking Setup.exe, try clicking Setup Defaults as seen in pic...Now make sure you have Cabinet mode checked, and if you are using PINDMD checkmark the "Use external DMD"

 

Edited by xenonph, 26 September 2017 - 07:38 PM.

[Thalamus]

Setup for 64bit isn't tested enough and I believe also has known problems. Stick with 32 bit like Xenonph says.

 

Pindmd3, yes, there is a break-point going from 2.8 to 2.9 where it becomes weird and sluggish. For some GTS3 tables, you still have to live with the problem, but I now recommend

you do what I've tried to steer people to do. Replace the outdated pindmd.dll for freezy' dmddevice.dll

 

http://vpinball.com/...-dmddevice-dll/

 

If you need to play any of those GTS3 tables, then you should turn off the 'ext dmd' and run with a virtual one. You find more info over at the github page.

It is beta software - but, it will give you many new possibilities You'll know what I'm talking about ... further down the road ...

Edited by Thalamus, 26 September 2017 - 07:41 PM.

[Grimlockwheelie]

Ok, took a littel from both, redownloaded and installed and ran setup.exe for 2.8b   That solved the message and lets me run the DMD functionally for all tables on my system.  I look forward to these future benefits software thoughts.  (Possible Tracking software, or is that even too harsh to talk about?)  FP iis great for that, looks awesome, but, play is, at best, OK.   VPX physics seem to blow it away from the tables I've tried.   All well I'm rambling, I'm going to make good on putting some $$ where my help comes from.

 

Thank you both so much.   This is all good information for me for the future and currently.

[Thalamus]

Don't mention that crap to me again ( I'm no Future Pinball lover ... not at all )

It is not like we're getting rich from you donating. I will not go into details ... on this forum.

 

Your really missing out not trying to go the path you where on though ... Stern etc ... ;-)

Edited by Thalamus, 26 September 2017 - 08:15 PM.

[xenonph]

Most everybody in this community will help anybody they can, and they do it for free. There is no need to pay to get help here in this community.

This community is happy to help anyone and everyone, for free.

That's what makes this community special.

All these people make these programs and tables and everything else included, for free, and for our enjoyment.

They spend days, weeks, months working on these works of art! Time they could have spent doing something else.

I don't know of any other hobby or community that does all these things for free.

I am thankful to be part of this amazing Pinball Community!!

That said, if you want to donate or upgrade to a payed subscription, feel free, but it is not a prerequisite.

 

Keep on Pinballin'

[Grimlockwheelie]

I get it isn't necc.   Just one of those things that I was raised that way.  I know no one gets rich from it or anything, I just want to make sure that I'm doing my part to keep it for many years to come.  I know it isn't a ton, but, if enough people also get on board, well, a grain of sand doesn't do much (stay out of here all you ball bearing people), but a truckload can do quite a bit.

 

I'll upgrade going forward.   (Stern is what got me in this mess so for now building my collection. (at like 12 tables right now) I'll move on and update accordingly.  Don't worry, won't go down the FP path anymore with you.....please keep the beatings to a minimal nature.  Either way I'll learn to walk before I learn to fly with the new stuff.  (I mean you guys were explaining to me how to install PinMAME separately at this point....lol)   So I'm sure in a few weeks i'll be more up to date.

 

I do get the community aspect, as I'm well I guess I'd say slightly active in the Linux mint community.   (with my minimal forum knowledge but I try to help others where I can and such).

 

Thank you for all you, and many like you do.   Ultimately we all just enjoy the melding of technology and projects and fun.

[Grimlockwheelie]

Along the lines off thinking of missing out on Stern/otherwise.  Would it work if I kept my visual pinball folder as is (I have more tables working now and am seeming to get the hang of it.).  What if I made another Vpx folder, using the "S.T.E.A.R.N " friendly attributes that gave me trouble.  I could then just make that another sub category on pinballx, currently my vpx is vpx, maybe I'll just generically call that vpy, or whatever.  Then just point pinballx into the new folder.  Would this work or would there be issues outside of the two differenet visual pinball installs that would give it trouble?...say in the registry or whatever.