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[JRSly]

Not to trample over leeoneil's thread, but I feel like I'm having the exact same issues and maybe I can help get this sorted out. Just upgraded to 10.8 today, tracked down the very latest beta, most tables are lower res with rough aliasing. And a couple look beautiful and I don't see any rhyme or reason for why that is. In the attached pics you can see RollerCoaster Tycoon looks amazing, but Johnny Mnemonic is clearly looking nastier. These were downloaded and played for the first time today, so just for fun I also checked a table from a couple months ago, and you can see that Elvis unfortunately is similar to Johnny M.

 

[wiesshund]

Not to trample over leeoneil's thread, but I feel like I'm having the exact same issues and maybe I can help get this sorted out. Just upgraded to 10.8 today, tracked down the very latest beta, most tables are lower res with rough aliasing. And a couple look beautiful and I don't see any rhyme or reason for why that is. In the attached pics you can see RollerCoaster Tycoon looks amazing, but Johnny Mnemonic is clearly looking nastier. These were downloaded and played for the first time today, so just for fun I also checked a table from a couple months ago, and you can see that Elvis unfortunately is similar to Johnny M.

Well, i am not sure if it makes a big difference but you have reduced super sampling to 50%

[JRSly]

Oh good grief, disabling supersampling fixed my issues.   I noticed that but assumed it was set that way following some advice for some reason or another, especially when it didn't cause issues with every table. I guess something in those tables are maybe overriding the graphics settings to some degree? 

 

I'll keep my post and pics up in case they are helpful for leeoneil's problem.

[wiesshund]

Oh good grief, disabling supersampling fixed my issues.   I noticed that but assumed it was set that way following some advice for some reason or another, especially when it didn't cause issues with every table. I guess something in those tables are maybe overriding the graphics settings to some degree? 

 

I'll keep my post and pics up in case they are helpful for leeoneil's problem.

 

I have not looked but i think you can override SS setting in a table like you can override a few other settings

100% is basically 1, it is not increasing it, and it is not reducing it, eh think of it as 1x FSAA kind of but not really.

So 50% is reducing 1 by half, so killing your detail resolution.

 

Useful on a slower system, maybe dropping to 80 or 90, maybe even 75% but 50 is a big reduction

[lluvatar]

This could be a dumb question, but when I enter the live editor for the first time, I see the menu that allows me to adjust the POV and other parameters using the flipper buttons.  If I save and re-enter the live editor, the screen is rotated and I see the "cube" screen.  How do I get back to the main menu?

[wiesshund]

F6 edit camera
Q quite to editor

F6 to go back to camera editing again

 

Live Edit is a playable editor, dont pick that from Q menu if you just want to go back to camera editing again

[Drybonz]

Well, i am not sure if it makes a big difference but you have reduced super sampling to 50%

 

I'm glad someone figured this one out finally.  It turned out to be a simple thing, but I had no ideas.  I'm guessing leeoneil has the same problem, but I don't think he showed his settings.

Edited by Drybonz, 26 September 2023 - 11:47 PM.

[lluvatar]

Thanks.  Figured it had to be something simple.  Much appreciated

 

F6 edit camera
Q quite to editor

F6 to go back to camera editing again

 

Live Edit is a playable editor, dont pick that from Q menu if you just want to go back to camera editing again

[terry guignard]

I have the same problem with jaggies,last version working good was 1470.....Tried changing all rendering options no luck...

[Mitchell]

I wish we can change the color of the VPX script. Reason is that the script is too bright on a 2560x1440 screen. I would like to have it at a black background with white texts. I'm using a Windows 11 notepad that have that option. Just copy everything from the VPX script and then paste onto the notepad. When I'm done. Paste the changes over onto the VPX. That way I won't stranging my eyes looking at the bright screen.

 

Hoping VPX in the future will have a theme option.

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[wiesshund]

I wish we can change the color of the VPX script. 

Guess i'm a Faerie
 
Call me Morgana
 

 

 

I have the same problem with jaggies,last version working good was 1470.....Tried changing all rendering options no luck...

And have you also set super sampling below 100%? (AKA DIsabled)

If so, you will get chunky looking tables

Edited by wiesshund, 27 September 2023 - 04:20 AM.

[Mitchell]

I found it. Never mind. Now I can change the theme. lol

 

I found a problem. I can't change the highlight bar color. Stays white.

 

Using a gray background with black texts. Texts at 19 reg. Better than using colors with a white highlight bar.

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[Rajo Joey]

I found it. Never mind. Now I can change the theme. lol

 

I found a problem. I can't change the highlight bar color. Stays white.

 

Using a gray background with black texts. Texts at 19 reg. Better than using colors with a white highlight bar.

You can do it, if I understand you correct.

Click on "Background Col/Select" row "Font". Choose color.

[terry guignard]

I have sampling disabled 1470 works fine ,all other new builds do the same rendering issue ..I revert back to1470 rendering issues are gone....Idont know how to show images here of what im getting with the last builds........Ive tried settings to the max 200%..Max.texture dim unlimited and any other settings ...still there..running 64bit

Edited by terry guignard, 27 September 2023 - 02:06 PM.

[gman112677]

I'm having problems with AMD video card and 10.8 PUPS IVE MADE, that's all i can think it is at this point and i'm completely stumped what to do.

 

 

 

When running pups i made for 10.8 table file, they will Randomly black out to blank screens after about 5 minutes systematically just the backglass and fulldmd screens, does not effect the playfield screen.  

 

It's doing this screen blackout for both 10.8 GL and DX .exes.

 

10.7.4 64 bit 32 bit .exe's working perfect for non 10.8 pups

 

 

i reverted back to 2.2.8 vlc thinking that might have caused it ...nope...

 

i've tried the beta set of pup64 files....

 

i've reinstalled 3 different times... nope...

 

i really dont know what to do anymore.....

 

i tried this entire install method here... nope

 

PLEASE contact me if you are an AMD video card user that HAD or HAS the same issue i have OR if you know what I could try to fix it.  Thank You!!!

 

Edited by gman112677, 27 September 2023 - 06:13 PM.

[Drybonz]

I'm having problems with AMD video card and 10.8 PUPS IVE MADE, that's all i can think it is at this point and i'm completely stumped what to do.

 

This appears to be an open ticket on github.  Ticket #760.  You can wait for it to be resolved, read notes to see if anything helps you, or put notes with any relevant info you have for the VPX team on that ticket.

[Itchigo]

I don't know what else to do. I still have no cursor during play. I can't use the F1 or F3 menu. I'm using the latest (1497), and I overwrote the files when I got it. What am I missing?

[Drybonz]

Everyone that is talking about that mouse cursor issue seems to have resolved it by overwriting scripts.  I would check the modified dates on your scripts and see if the dates on the most recent scripts are more recent.  I saw that you have a bug report open.  Hopefully, they respond to that but I have a feeling the initial response may be the same as the other closed tickets.

Edited by Drybonz, 28 September 2023 - 02:45 AM.

[leeoneil]

I'll keep my post and pics up in case they are helpful for leeoneil's problem.

Oh man thank you, that was it !

I'm SURE that I disabled this supersampling before but... I was trying 10.7.4/32, 10.7.4/64, 10.8/32 and 10.8/64 so... I may have got confused during the process.
Really sorry it was a very basic problem ! Thank's everyone !

Very strange that some VPW table overpass these settings !

 

So this 10.8 64 bits is working like a charm for me, I tried several tables, and it look likes everything working (except my pin2dmd but it will be another story)

Thank's so much to the development teams, VPX is so crazy !

 

 

Question :

If I want to use both VR and "normal" play, do I need the 10.8 Dx and 10.8 GL ?

Edited by leeoneil, 28 September 2023 - 09:10 AM.

[wiesshund]

 

 

 

 

Question :

If I want to use both VR and "normal" play, do I need the 10.8 Dx and 10.8 GL ?

 

 

yes