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#41 jasonsmith

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:24 PM

Mine are [z] and [ / ] I guess that would make them 90 and 191? I think those are the standard nudge keys. 



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:27 PM

v1.3 is up (see post #1)



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:37 PM

1.3 is working nicely, thanks for super fast fixes.

 

Would it be possible to assign the next letter keys to also skip sections in the main menu? ie, pressing the next letter up takes us to the Manufacturer from Filters, then again to Decades from Manufacturers. 

 

Also the font is bigger than it needs to be at least on my 720 res, if it could be made a tad smaller it would give much more room. 

 

Just for fun could you disable the fade in the wheel image, curious how fast this really is, the fade is really slowing things down. 

 

I know earlier you asked if there was a different idea for a wheel, I'm thinking heavily about that one, there must be some really simple but cool solution. It is important I think to see the next couple tables coming up. In the current one by one setup I'm forgetting which tables are where. 



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:51 PM

I had a mental block :) I saw those in the config but for some reason I interpreted the LetterUp/LetterDown as a toggle (don't ask me why)... Brain cramp :)

 

Questions/Suggestions: Can you add a toggle for the Shutdown System option? So that if you enable the value in the config it shows, and if you disable it doesn't show? Makes it less likely to 'accidentally' shutdown the cabinet when testing :)

 

Also - can you have Left Nudge and Right Nudge set as NextLetterDown and NextLetterUp?

 

great job so far :)

 

What keys do you mean with Left/Right Nudge? You can edit the keys in the PinSelect.exe.config file. Have you tried this?


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:52 PM

1.3 - My taskbar is showing up after a table close, VP and FP. It goes away on the launch of a new table but comes up again after exiting. It is not set to autohide. 

 

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:03 PM

what are the key codes for left shift and right shift?  what keycodes are they (not ascii)  (are you using direct.input? I think that is what is needed to capture left and right shift independently.  I tried to make a simple launch a while back and had trouble with left and right shift keys until I made the program using wpf.

Wpf also allows hardware acceleration.  I think I will mess around with it again and see how far I can go with it.  Thanks for your hard work on this and with VP in general.



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:14 PM

160 and 161 for LeftShift and RightShift


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 02:02 AM

thanks for the keycodes, how does one use the filter option?



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Posted 11 April 2013 - 02:42 AM

It's set to 5 on your keyboard or most likely you coin button. 



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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:31 AM

Is it possible to map Joy Buttons in the config ?



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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:06 AM

This is a very nice initiative!

Hyperpin was starting to make me angry with these focus problems, slowness, wav sounds 1,2 3 to know is the focus is allright, etc...

I was thinking yesterday on how we can improve the navigation and one idea came out of nowhere

What if we implement a wheel with multiple levels?

Example:

the upper level is the choose table like we already know from HP
we could have a lower level, that can be used for letter jump for example, but not only for that, for manufacturer, genre (SS, EM, Original?)

How to go to the wheel lower level? with the exit button (pressing the exit button a second twice and you would have the option to quit the app)

suppose that if you exit once, you enter to the jump letters, the flipper buttons browse to the letters, once you have choosed a letter, use start or launch button to browse tables on the upper level of the wheel again.

Now, still on the lower level, if you want to change the filters, use the magna save from letter jump to change manufacturer or genre etc

Once you have choosen the filter, press start or launch you can browse your tables again.

Some of them don't have magna save buttons, we could add a third down level on the wheel, so they can choose their filter on that level.

Tell me what you think.



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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:30 PM

Still haven't tried this out yet, the only thing really holding me back is the video. My hyperpin runs great so still not much need yet to even test it.

 

If you do manage the videos could you maybe think about implenting a choice for them. What I mean by that is I've wanted to be able to add in videos from papa tutorials/torny vids, youtubes of the real tables,  alongside table preview or from a menu to choose like you would instructions/flyers. To me this adds a nice collection and all from one box. 


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:06 PM

To answer the question on first page, what features? I would like to say:

 

1. Ability to load VP and FP  (and perhaps other emulation like pinball arcade or whatever....)

2. Speed and little to no wait times

3. Ability for advanced filtering

4. Ability to load alternative XML databases, ie. I would like to make a set of DB's just for my kids tables, and when i want to play something more advanced, i could load another DB

5. Ability for the highscores to work and network shared

6. Support for all BG platforms (UVP, B2S, dB2S, etc..)

7. Instruction card and Flyer support

 

If all these can be accomplished, we are all in for sure!! Great job so far!

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:27 PM

Is it possible to map Joy Buttons in the config ?

I don 't know! If you can map your buttons to some keys on your keyboard then yes...

thank you all for all the good ideas...we will see if I find enough time to add some of them. At the moment I'm workingon a new wheel so you can see the previous/current/next table. If everything works well I will release a new version in the nextfew days.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:31 PM

fuzzel were you able the reproduce the taskbar popping up after exiting a table? Is anyone else seeing this?



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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:37 PM

yeah i guess it's a stupid bug. I think I will make it customizable to hide the taskbar or not. In the past I disabled the bar but if the app crashs you won't see no taskbar anymore until you reboot your system ;)

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:38 PM

Copy that, thank you. Looking forward to your wheel :)



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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:03 PM

Is it possible to map Joy Buttons in the config ?

I don 't know! If you can map your buttons to some keys on your keyboard then yes...

thank you all for all the good ideas...we will see if I find enough time to add some of them. At the moment I'm workingon a new wheel so you can see the previous/current/next table. If everything works well I will release a new version in the nextfew days.

sure it would be no problem to map em with a tool .. would be cool if you don´t have to remap keys, maybe causes som lags ?!?!



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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:15 PM

I'm not entirely positive this is of interest for anyone but me, so I put this suggestion up for discussion:

 

A function to switch sorting from alphabetical order to sorting by manufacturing date.

 

Why? Because sorting by date is best for browsing through all tables. At least it works best for me. I switched to manufacturing date sorting a couple of months ago and I'll never go back.

It's not good for searching for a given table by name, mind you. That's why it would be nice to be able to switch between the two sorting options.

 

If you sort alphabetically "Big Daddy (Williams 1963)" goes next to "Big Bang Bar (Capcom 1996)". They don't belong together. But tables like "Gorgar (Williams 1979)" and "Rolling Stones (Bally 1980)" do.

In this case, filtering by decade won't help you either.

 

For reference, my hyperspin wheel is currently sorted like this:

Recreations 1990 -> today / bowlers (by date) / originals (sorted alphabetically) / Music Template tables / computer pinball game recreations / recreations 1930 -> 1989

 

I use a different letter as prefix for every 5 years of pinball history so I can use the skipup and skipdown buttons to jump to the next decade.

 

That genre button? I hardly use it anymore. Two or three skips get me to where I want to be.

 



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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:34 PM

Order by date sounds awesome, i think its the most 'logical' sorting, too..