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[viktory2k1]

I am once again having screen issues and I can't seem to get the BG on the correct monitor, it is set at 2 and I change it and it will not stay, I used to know how to fix this but forgot, everything seemed fine until PBX "expired" and had to get a new version and all the setting are the same as they were, the BG wants to show up behind the DMD on monitor 3, I finally got the DMD sized right but I did a search for screenres.txt and found 6 different files, 3 were shortcuts but not sure what the rest were so I deleted all except the one in the tables folder but it still didn't do anything, I think something is over riding my setup, I will look for that B2S screen res editor to see if it is the same.

[blib]

Hi.  I installed the B2Sbackglass server and I've noticed some tables stop displaying their scores on the main screen properly.  Abracadabra for instance works fine without B2S initalized but goes dark (scoreboard only) once B2S is registered.   Is there a way to suspend B2S from the command line?   Most games don't seem to do this, regardless if they have a separate backglass .   Anybody know what could be wrong with the script?

[xenonph]

If you are a DT user, then this is normal.

The scoring Displays on sides of table will default to off, if using dB2S Backglass.

You can disable B2S by clicking Preferences..Keys...and in lower right you will see where you can disable B2S.(As seen in pic.)

 

If you are a FS user, you can right click on the Backglass and it will give you a Backglass settings menu.

Then check to see if the visiblity settings are making your scores disappear.

Be sure to save after making your changes.

 

Hope this helps.

[Powell]

I'm guessing theres currently no way to get the dmd to display in vr? With the exception of having it float somewhere in the table top portion of the screen. But i mean having the ones show on the backglass. They generally show fine in the standard mode. Curious why it doesn't show in vr... maybe it needs a position reference or the lights just don't work properly?

[jimmay3]

I have a strange setup that I'm tring to resolve...

Hybrid Shuffle Alley - The playfield and pins are real, but VP runs the rest via script and DOF.

Project Link at - https://www.vpforums...showtopic=48917

There is no need to design a playfield because it is real, thus the table file only really needs the script for the inputs. With this in mind, graphically all I need is a single screen to display the backglass via a B2S file and the rom/dmd displayed on top on it. Thus all works good (blank table file with script control inputs and initializing the BG), only issue is with the BG and DMD on top (full screen), the rom sits in attract mode cause it can not recieve inputs. I tried the BG and Table side by side and all was good with the mouse over the blank table window.

Trying to resolve this issue, cause no need for tables, just script with proper mapping for each game and most have BGs already made.

Here's a test video of a full table zoomed into only the BG...
https://youtu.be/3-q8jgl0xmQ

Edited by jimmay3, 17 April 2022 - 01:01 AM.

[wiesshund]

I have a strange setup that I'm tring to resolve...

Hybrid Shuffle Alley - The playfield and pins are real, but VP runs the rest via script and DOF.

Project Link at - https://www.vpforums...showtopic=48917

There is no need to design a playfield because it is real, thus the table file only really needs the script for the inputs. With this in mind, graphically all I need is a single screen to display the backglass via a B2S file and the rom/dmd displayed on top on it. Thus all works good (blank table file with script control inputs and initializing the BG), only issue is with the BG and DMD on top (full screen), the rom sits in attract mode cause it can not recieve inputs. I tried the BG and Table side by side and all was good with the mouse over the blank table window.

Trying to resolve this issue, cause no need for tables, just script with proper mapping for each game and most have BGs already made.

Here's a test video of a full table zoomed into only the BG...
https://youtu.be/3-q8jgl0xmQ

 

Ok, so tell VP to run in a window
and tell VP to run off screen

 

I will give you a little regedit clip

the values are hex (obviously)

The width and height you dont really care about

WindowPosX though, make that a hex value that is off the right hand side of your screen

if your screen is 1920 x 1080 then make the WindowPosX value 00000781  (1921 pixels)

any value that is larger than the monitor is will send VPX offscreen

if you need to run VPX and see it
just save a separate .reg file and make the xpos 0 and it will appear back on screen again

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Visual Pinball\VP10\Player]

"FullScreen"=dword:00000000
"Width"=dword:0000031e
"Height"=dword:00000300
"WindowPosX"=dword:00000781
"WindowPosY"=dword:00000000

[jimmay3]

 

I have a strange setup that I'm tring to resolve...

Hybrid Shuffle Alley - The playfield and pins are real, but VP runs the rest via script and DOF.

Project Link at - https://www.vpforums...showtopic=48917

There is no need to design a playfield because it is real, thus the table file only really needs the script for the inputs. With this in mind, graphically all I need is a single screen to display the backglass via a B2S file and the rom/dmd displayed on top on it. Thus all works good (blank table file with script control inputs and initializing the BG), only issue is with the BG and DMD on top (full screen), the rom sits in attract mode cause it can not recieve inputs. I tried the BG and Table side by side and all was good with the mouse over the blank table window.

Trying to resolve this issue, cause no need for tables, just script with proper mapping for each game and most have BGs already made.

Here's a test video of a full table zoomed into only the BG...
https://youtu.be/3-q8jgl0xmQ

 

Ok, so tell VP to run in a window
and tell VP to run off screen

 

I will give you a little regedit clip

the values are hex (obviously)

The width and height you dont really care about

WindowPosX though, make that a hex value that is off the right hand side of your screen

if your screen is 1920 x 1080 then make the WindowPosX value 00000781  (1921 pixels)

any value that is larger than the monitor is will send VPX offscreen

if you need to run VPX and see it
just save a separate .reg file and make the xpos 0 and it will appear back on screen again

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Visual Pinball\VP10\Player]

"FullScreen"=dword:00000000
"Width"=dword:0000031e
"Height"=dword:00000300
"WindowPosX"=dword:00000781
"WindowPosY"=dword:00000000

Made these entries with a 1920x1080 screen and still no control of the BG, has no input capability, just sits there in attact mode.

[wiesshund]

then i dont understand what you are trying to say?

you asked about making vpx stop appearing on the screen

[jimmay3]

Thanks for the help, but trying to run a BG without a table (blank graphics table, just script)...

[STAT]

I also don't understand, in your YT Video, it looks like all is fine ?

 

That's really great !

 

I can't say, if i am right, but try to set the same Screen for VPX and directb2s, probably directb2s will be over VPX Layer.

I think, it doesn't matter, if VPX is blank and just with ROM Connection, because it should be in-visible only.

 

Otherwise, ask toxie, maybe he can help you.

 

Please let me know later, how you could solve that 100%.

Edited by STAT, 19 April 2022 - 08:22 AM.

[wiesshund]

Thanks for the help, but trying to run a BG without a table (blank graphics table, just script)...

 

But i literally just answered that and you said no that isnt what you want to do, so im not sure how to answer you

[jimmay3]

Thanks, but your workaround has no input capability, just BG sits there in attact mode because VP is off the screen (out of focus).

[wiesshund]

Thanks, but your workaround has no input capability, just BG sits there in attact mode because VP is off the screen (out of focus).

 

No offense but you are not making sense

i havent done or suggested anything that has any bearing on input capability

 

VPX is not out of focus even if it is 7000 pixels off screen

I have it 22,000 pixels off to the right at this moment, and cant see a bloody thing
i can blindly play though, my score sucks 10 times more than normal, but i get a few lucky hits.
backglass is working fine as is the DMD

 

Now if you are losing focus, yes, table will stop responding to you, but the focus has nothing to do with screen position

if you are losing focus, it is for some other reason
 

[jimmay3]

I really appreciate the support...

 

Unfortunately, it appears with a single screen setup, VP must remain on top or in focus, else the input keys are not passed to it, thus game sits in attract mode.  I know no other way to explain it.

 

It appears your regedit forces VP off my screen to allow the BG to be on top, unfortunately, then VP cannot receive any inputs.

 

 

Thanks, but your workaround has no input capability, just BG sits there in attact mode because VP is off the screen (out of focus).

 

No offense but you are not making sense

i havent done or suggested anything that has any bearing on input capability

 

VPX is not out of focus even if it is 7000 pixels off screen

I have it 22,000 pixels off to the right at this moment, and cant see a bloody thing
i can blindly play though, my score sucks 10 times more than normal, but i get a few lucky hits.
backglass is working fine as is the DMD

 

Now if you are losing focus, yes, table will stop responding to you, but the focus has nothing to do with screen position

if you are losing focus, it is for some other reason
 

 

 

 

Then there must be some other setting I'm missing to maintain focus?

Edited by jimmay3, 20 April 2022 - 05:08 AM.

[wiesshund]

I really appreciate the support...

 

Unfortunately, it appears with a single screen setup, VP must remain on top or in focus, else the input keys are not passed to it, thus game sits in attract mode.  I know no other way to explain it.

 

It appears your regedit forces VP off my screen to allow the BG to be on top, unfortunately, then VP cannot receive any inputs.

 

 

Thanks, but your workaround has no input capability, just BG sits there in attact mode because VP is off the screen (out of focus).

 

No offense but you are not making sense

i havent done or suggested anything that has any bearing on input capability

 

VPX is not out of focus even if it is 7000 pixels off screen

I have it 22,000 pixels off to the right at this moment, and cant see a bloody thing
i can blindly play though, my score sucks 10 times more than normal, but i get a few lucky hits.
backglass is working fine as is the DMD

 

Now if you are losing focus, yes, table will stop responding to you, but the focus has nothing to do with screen position

if you are losing focus, it is for some other reason
 

 

 

 

Then there must be some other setting I'm missing to maintain focus?

 

No idea what else you might be running, and perhaps is even the front end setup
what happens if you just double click on the appropriate table file?

 

I dont have your bowling hardware, but from a VPX stand point, should be no different than me sitting here with this one screen laptop
and setting VPX to put the playfield 3 miles off screen and then double clicking apollo13

backglass and DMD come up, table, well it does not come up, as in we can not see it, which is what we want
it is there, off in no mans land someplace

 

I hit 3
click, coins drop
i hit 1
table starts

then its a case of shooting the ball and blindly slapping flippers to see what kind of terrible score we get
but it is running and playing.

So if the table is going out of program focus, which has nothing to do with visuals
then you have some other program(s) stealing focus, though on your setup i do not know what it might be?

 

there are various means of switching focus back without mousing anything
autohotkey script, windows batfile etc
but it would be nice to know what is taking focus and if there is another way to resolve it

[becausereasons]

Is it possible to use the b2s inside the game? I'm trying to find how to load a back panel and alt-color dmd :/

[Gravy]

Is it possible to use the b2s inside the game? I'm trying to find how to load a back panel and alt-color dmd :/

yes, for the b2s to be captured within VR there needs to be a image in the VPX file specifically called "BackglassImage" and a primitive that has this image attached to which the b2s is then captured to if "capture external backglass" is enabled in VR settings.
 

This is kind of a reverse version of your question but should help I think https://www.vpforums...showtopic=53064

[whynotpizza]

I have a very old version of B2SBackglassServer.dll (1.0.0.0) ... but things are all working OK.

 

That said, what's the best way to upgrade from this old release to the latest 2.1.3?

 

Anything to be concerned about here? 

 

https://github.com/v...kglass/releases

 

Lots of new files in this new package.

 

Just unzip and slam into Tables folder and run RegisterApp.exe?

[R23D2]

Hello,

 

I cannnot helpt you with your question but I can give you a workaround if it fails......

Just backup your system. I wouldn't use Windows System Restorepoint or backup... Maybe I did something wrong but it never worked for me properly.

I am new to the VP world and mess around a lot of and keep frequently restoring my system. I found Macrium reflect a while ago and keep using it. They used to have a free version but it is discontinued. BUT you can still download it and use it without limitation. Either way, Usb drive or on Windows. 

https://www.majorgee...ee_edition.html

When you google majorgeeks it's considered legit. If you want me to, I can provide you a link to my one drive to download the version I use.

At times when that free version was officially available it had good ratings.

[Tiki]

Backup your old files to a zip
download and unblock the new server zip
Copy all files to the place you want to install
register the new server
https://github.com/v...ass/wiki/Update