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#1 YorkyB

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Posted 19 January 2026 - 01:39 PM

I've just got back into VPX and went to give the Baller installer a try out - aiming to run a two monitor desktop set-up at some point. All looked good but then I noticed that it takes about a minute for a table to load - used to take a few seconds. I'm pretty sure I was already on 10.8 so this is new. I load a table into editor and hit play and it hangs on 'Preparing Table' 'Initializing Visuals' for about a minute then rushes through scripts for several seconds as you'd normally get. Everything works fine but just this massive delay at the start and this is any table - even a bare bones 'new' table in the editor.


Things I tried:


Uninstalled and started again with standard VP Installer - still getting big delay.

Checked with integrated graphics instead of Radeon RX 7600 - same delay 

Checked and updated all MOBO & Graphics card drivers - same delay

Tried 10.7 and no delay ... so I'm wondering what VPX 10.8 does that is maybe different to 10.7?


I can play tables which is good but its still got me scratching my head over the weird delay. Any thoughts anyone?


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Windows 11

AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7GHz

ASUS Tuf Gaming B650-Plus WiFi

Gigabyte Radeon RX 7600 XT 16Gb

Lexar 4TB m.2 + 2TB m.2

64GB RAM

 



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Posted 19 January 2026 - 02:29 PM

Hi

 

Which is your video settings setup?

Send a picture.

 

Which is your VpinMame, Backglass server and/or DMDextensions version?

 

Which is your VPX 10.80 release?

It is better the last good realease 10.80 - 2051

 

VPX 10.81 any system version has some delayed start-up



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Posted 20 January 2026 - 10:48 AM

Sorry for the slow reply - I had notifications off (on now) and didn't realise there was a response. Thanks for having a think on this.

 

VPX is 10.8.0

VpinMame is 3.6.0.1227 ... comes with current VPX installer

No Backglass server - have really cut back to try and figure this out so desktop, single monitor, barebones table.

No external DMD so accepting default for no DMD at install

Video settings image below and also loading dialog box where it just hangs for about 50s then loads and all is good. Using 10.7 it just renders in a couple of seconds, 10.8 and it hangs. I'm out today but will have a check back this eve in case you have any ideas on things I can check. Thanks again.

 

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Posted 20 January 2026 - 11:40 AM

I'd try reducing the Max texture dimensions and setting to use exclusive fullscreen in VPX preferences.

 

Also check what other software you have running (iCue at least caused a startup delay with 10.8)



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Posted 20 January 2026 - 12:26 PM

You need the latest backglass server even if you never use it, plus FlexDMD.  It won't work properly otherwise. 



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Posted 20 January 2026 - 05:08 PM

@scutters

 

I don´t believe it be the case.

He has a powerful setup and it is running in VPX DX version.

 

@YorkB

 

I agree with Bigus. Although you are running in desktop mode, the backglass server is required.

Some peopleo manage the BG position to main desktop view deppending on backdrop table.

FlexDMD is required because some tables scripts need to work properly.



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Posted 20 January 2026 - 05:23 PM

Okay - many thanks for those suggestions all. I'll try the backglass server and FlexDMD and get back.



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Posted 20 January 2026 - 05:44 PM

Result! Works perfectly now and lightening fast too.

 

Thank you to all replies for taking time to help with this - much appreciated. I had no idea that installing the Backglass server was a requirement even when it's not in use. Learned something there. :-)



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Posted 25 January 2026 - 03:33 AM

You need the latest backglass server even if you never use it, plus FlexDMD.  It won't work properly otherwise. 

 

This is proven once again in the forums here ... second time recently, IIRC.



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Posted 25 January 2026 - 08:21 AM

You can always disable the B2S in the keys, nudge and DOF options. This way the B2S server doesn't try to start at all and search for the directb2s file :)

 

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Posted 26 January 2026 - 06:23 PM

You can always disable the B2S in the keys, nudge and DOF options. This way the B2S server doesn't try to start at all and search for the directb2s file :)

 

 

 

Good call-out.

 

Strangely, I've never noticed that option before. Surely appropriate for single-monitor setups or even for B2S-Server troubleshooting.