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Best Answer Emanoel299 , 09 December 2025 - 11:01 PM

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Hi

 

If you are playing in a laptop, I suppose you are playing in Desktop mode.

Desktop mode is soft if compare with Cabinet mode with 3 screens.

If you are playing with GL version, try to play with DX version. DX is easy rendering if compare to GL.

Below my settings suggestion for you. You can try.

 

videosettings4_t.png

 

Maybe you will loose some image definition but, you can increase performance

At last, to play some new tables, you will need a better laptop.

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#1 AdobeWanKenobi

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Posted 07 December 2025 - 05:14 PM

Table in question: https://vpuniverse.c...liams-1997-vpw/

 

It is a very realistic table, and my laptop isn't very good which is probably the cause. But all my other tables have worked without issue so far. 

 

I noticed that this particular table has a bunch of VR stuff added to it. Could that be part of the cause, and if so is there a way to turn it off?

 

And in case you are wondering, I did try turning the graphics down but it didn't really help much. Mostly it just made the table look like ass lol.

 

Thanks!



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Posted 07 December 2025 - 06:25 PM

I don't think you can do much about it. Those VPW tables use a lot of huge pre-rendered graphics for both lightning and shadows, so they demand a lot of more of your computer cpu and mostly the graphics card, as there are a lot of intensive operations. It doesn't help either that they use the nFozzy flippers and all the collision code, mostly for rubbers and dampening, which do a lot of mathematics in the script. All that combined demands a good computer.

 

You may try to remove all the extra VR graphics, but I believe it won't help much. 

 

You can also do a few things on your computer to free some cpu time, like turning off some of the Windows services, like the Windows Search which is the one indexing your disk contiguously, which I mean it is a waste of time and cpu.


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Posted 09 December 2025 - 10:42 PM

You can try turning off dynamic ball shadows. Usually in the script. It helps on some tables for me.



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Posted 09 December 2025 - 11:01 PM   Best Answer

@obiwankenobi

 

Hi

 

If you are playing in a laptop, I suppose you are playing in Desktop mode.

Desktop mode is soft if compare with Cabinet mode with 3 screens.

If you are playing with GL version, try to play with DX version. DX is easy rendering if compare to GL.

Below my settings suggestion for you. You can try.

 

videosettings4_t.png

 

Maybe you will loose some image definition but, you can increase performance

At last, to play some new tables, you will need a better laptop.


Edited by Emanoel299, 09 December 2025 - 11:05 PM.


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Posted 10 December 2025 - 07:37 PM

@obiwankenobi

 

Hi

 

If you are playing in a laptop, I suppose you are playing in Desktop mode.

Desktop mode is soft if compare with Cabinet mode with 3 screens.

If you are playing with GL version, try to play with DX version. DX is easy rendering if compare to GL.

Below my settings suggestion for you. You can try.

 

videosettings4_t.png

 

Maybe you will loose some image definition but, you can increase performance

At last, to play some new tables, you will need a better laptop.

I tried messing with those settings and this actually fixed it, thanks! Now I can finally see my ball drain in 60fps :)


Edited by AdobeWanKenobi, 10 December 2025 - 07:41 PM.


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Posted 11 December 2025 - 07:41 AM

Table in question: https://vpuniverse.c...liams-1997-vpw/

 

It is a very realistic table, and my laptop isn't very good which is probably the cause. But all my other tables have worked without issue so far. 

 

I noticed that this particular table has a bunch of VR stuff added to it. Could that be part of the cause, and if so is there a way to turn it off?

 

And in case you are wondering, I did try turning the graphics down but it didn't really help much. Mostly it just made the table look like ass lol.

 

Thanks!

Do you use the vpx64 bit version to run vpw tables?



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Posted 11 December 2025 - 08:31 AM

 

Table in question: https://vpuniverse.c...liams-1997-vpw/

 

It is a very realistic table, and my laptop isn't very good which is probably the cause. But all my other tables have worked without issue so far. 

 

I noticed that this particular table has a bunch of VR stuff added to it. Could that be part of the cause, and if so is there a way to turn it off?

 

And in case you are wondering, I did try turning the graphics down but it didn't really help much. Mostly it just made the table look like ass lol.

 

Thanks!

Do you use the vpx64 bit version to run vpw tables?

 

Yes, vpx version 10.8.0 64 bit version if I am to believe the About info.



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Posted 11 December 2025 - 10:34 AM

If adjusting the graphics settings fixed the issue it might be worth it to set some of them back to default and see what happens.

In my case simply turning down the texture resolution to 4096 solves a lot of frame rate problems.

I've got an old PC (i7 2600K, 8GB DDR RAM, GTX 980 4GB) and I can run almost all tables smoothly or satisfactorily at 85 FPS using frame pacing, maxed out with 200% supersampling.

It helps that my desktop resolution is only 1280x960, but it's still impressive that these tables play so well on my hardware. 



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Posted 11 December 2025 - 06:34 PM

Yeah I have everything maxed out, changing it to exclusive fullscreen seemed to help the most. And indeed cutting down the texture resolution helps a lot as well, but so far I've only needed to do that on those VPW tables.



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Posted 11 December 2025 - 07:27 PM

I have to do that with the more recent UnclePaulie releases as well, but of course 4GB of VRAM isn't exactly current anymore.



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Posted 11 December 2025 - 07:59 PM

@obiwankenobi

 

Another tip.

 

You can keep easy tables with full settings and "override" only the especific hard tables.

 

Below my settings for my easy laptop and Fish Tales VPW. It works fine.

 

overrides_t.png

 

The overrides are saved at .INI file.

 

Restart the VPX to modification have effect.



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Posted 11 December 2025 - 08:06 PM

I have to do that with the more recent UnclePaulie releases as well, but of course 4GB of VRAM isn't exactly current anymore.

Ohh dude my laptop has some prehistoric 128mb videocard, you don't know how good you have it. I'm very surprised vpx is able to run this well :P

 

@obiwankenobi

 

Another tip.

 

You can keep easy tables with full settings and "override" only the especific hard tables.

 

Below my settings for my easy laptop and Fish Tales VPW. It works fine.

 

overrides_t.png

 

The overrides are saved at .INI file.

 

Restart the VPX to modification have effect.

Yeah I figured that out, but thanks either way!



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Posted 12 December 2025 - 11:06 AM

 

I have to do that with the more recent UnclePaulie releases as well, but of course 4GB of VRAM isn't exactly current anymore.

Ohh dude my laptop has some prehistoric 128mb videocard, you don't know how good you have it. I'm very surprised vpx is able to run this well  :P

 

What luxury, my first graphics card was a Hercules Dynamite 128 with a whopping 4MB "faster than VRAM" synchronous Multibank DRAM.

I wonder if that baby can run a JP Salas table: https://www.dosdays....28/d128v141.pdf



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Posted 12 December 2025 - 03:58 PM

 

 

I have to do that with the more recent UnclePaulie releases as well, but of course 4GB of VRAM isn't exactly current anymore.

Ohh dude my laptop has some prehistoric 128mb videocard, you don't know how good you have it. I'm very surprised vpx is able to run this well  :P

 

What luxury, my first graphics card was a Hercules Dynamite 128 with a whopping 4MB "faster than VRAM" synchronous Multibank DRAM.

I wonder if that baby can run a JP Salas table: https://www.dosdays....28/d128v141.pdf

 

Haha holy shit, if only we could try. That being said, Jp's tables run very well so maybe you could do it if you turned the graphics down all the way hehe



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Posted 12 December 2025 - 06:17 PM

You need a better graphics card + i9 :killwithfire: 


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