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Best Answer Junkyerd2 , 28 June 2024 - 06:04 PM

Ok..i have solved all the problems (by now..)

 

The pinscape guide has been a helpful guide for me, but my experence was little weird..

 

My perfect values for the DXtweak.exe are

 

MIN 0

CTR 1885

MAX 4094

 

This values gives me a perfect movement bar in dxtweak.exe (i think with my special potentiometer, maybe yours are different)

 

And then i need to change some values on the mechanical plunger in vpx editor.

First you need to open a new table and then select the plunger (EDIT--SELECT ELEMENT-PLUNGER). 

And this values gives me a perfect function for the analog plunger with my potentiometer

 

tyty.png

 

I have changed :

 

STROKE LENGTH 127 (was 155)

This it`s important and depends from your  personal slide potentiometer size, if you put wrong values the ball will be kicked out automatically or not launched, the ball kicked out automatic happens when you have high values in here and the plunger it`s pull out all the way to the end of the plunger, or maybe you have down values and your ball will not be launched because the plunger doesn`t get close too much for touching the ball.

MECH STRENGTH 10 (was 100) ( i have to down to ten because otherwise the ball will be kicked out automatic when the plunger its pull out all the way to the end of the plunger)

PARK POSITION 0,1467 (was 0,1667)

 

Mow it`s working fine and realistic!

Hope it helps ;)

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#1 Junkyerd2

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Posted 27 June 2024 - 09:27 PM

Hello

I am trying to get it working the mechanical analog plunger with a slide potentiometer 10K, linear tape, B103 (i think it`s linear and not logarithmic)with kl25z

 

I can connect and calibrate the slide potentiometer and everithing it`s fine in pinscape config.

 

The green bar moves perfect all the way from the start to the end.

 

And the calibration it`s made no problem, everything fine..

 

But when i move to vpx i get confused...the potentiometer doesn`t work fine...only one centimeter movement in potentiometer move all the way the plunger..

 

It`s like i have a logarithmic potentiometer..

 

I have followed this thread  and i have changed my values for the z axys like the image above:(min32, center55, max78 and then click apply)

 

sint%C3%ADtulo.png

 

The calibration in pinscape it`s perfect, and moving into joystick i can see the z axys bar move all the way along from the start to the end of the potentiometer, everything it`s perfect.

 

sint%C3%ADtuloy.png

In this image i have the slide potenntiometer in middle position

 

But moving into vpx it`s not working, i am very confused

 

Any help would be appreciated 


Edited by Junkyerd2, 27 June 2024 - 11:28 PM.


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Posted 28 June 2024 - 04:54 AM

Ok..

This adjustments works better for me but i have the problem the ball it`s been launched when the plunger it`s at the end (it`s launching the ball automatic when the plunger it`s on the top)

sint%C3%ADtuloytty.png

The mechanical/analog plunger it`s been like a pain in the.. for me.right now 

 

Why the ball it`s been launched automatic if the plunger it`s not moving??


Edited by Junkyerd2, 28 June 2024 - 04:56 AM.


#3 Junkyerd2

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Posted 28 June 2024 - 06:04 PM   Best Answer

Ok..i have solved all the problems (by now..)

 

The pinscape guide has been a helpful guide for me, but my experence was little weird..

 

My perfect values for the DXtweak.exe are

 

MIN 0

CTR 1885

MAX 4094

 

This values gives me a perfect movement bar in dxtweak.exe (i think with my special potentiometer, maybe yours are different)

 

And then i need to change some values on the mechanical plunger in vpx editor.

First you need to open a new table and then select the plunger (EDIT--SELECT ELEMENT-PLUNGER). 

And this values gives me a perfect function for the analog plunger with my potentiometer

 

tyty.png

 

I have changed :

 

STROKE LENGTH 127 (was 155)

This it`s important and depends from your  personal slide potentiometer size, if you put wrong values the ball will be kicked out automatically or not launched, the ball kicked out automatic happens when you have high values in here and the plunger it`s pull out all the way to the end of the plunger, or maybe you have down values and your ball will not be launched because the plunger doesn`t get close too much for touching the ball.

MECH STRENGTH 10 (was 100) ( i have to down to ten because otherwise the ball will be kicked out automatic when the plunger its pull out all the way to the end of the plunger)

PARK POSITION 0,1467 (was 0,1667)

 

Mow it`s working fine and realistic!

Hope it helps ;)