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Why on Earth would Attack From Mars Backglass Override PUP video for Different Table


Best Answer barneyrfd , 04 January 2023 - 04:43 PM

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#1 barneyrfd

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Posted 01 January 2023 - 09:58 PM

I posted this problem previously in general discussions but didn't get much response so I thought I would try the Help Centre.  I tried to delete my previous post but can't figure out how to do that.  So apologies for the somewhat double post.

 

Strange problem when I'm trying to run some tables with pup videos for the backglass, the table loads properly and the pup backglass video starts but...when the playfield loads, the Attack From Mars static image overrides the pup backglass video.
 
Does this several  tables like Bond 66th, Clue, Mission Impossible, Batman '66 and others.  It's always the Attack From Mars backglass image...!
 
If I go to the taskbar and close the B2S server prog, the pup videos are there playing away and table play is normal.
 
Here's what I have tried to do.
 
- I do not have a db2s file for any of these tables, 
- Checking/unchecking "Bring form to front" in the B2S editor screen makes no difference.  
- I've looked in the script for the tabes and could find no reference to Attack From Mars
- I've tried adding the command B2Soff=True to the script but that stops the AFM backglass image and pup video from loading, so no backglass image at all.
- I've used pupvideoeditor to run numerous combinations of screen settings and nothing prevents  the AFM backglass from loading.
 
My 2 questions are, why is this happening and why is always the AFM backglass?
 
I'm running VPX 10.7.2 Final 32 bit, B2S Server 1.3.0.4 Ver 1.2 and VPin MAME Ver 3.3.
 
Any help greatly appreciated.


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Posted 01 January 2023 - 10:43 PM

Thats strange indeed. There is no "default backglass =" in vpx , pinmame or b2ssettings.xml. This makes me wonder if you're using a frontend? Maybe the frontend is configured in the launch script to pull up the afm backglass? I know visual pinmame itself uses windows registry but cant imagine vpiname even cares about the backglass. It only runs the rom.

I'm curious though and will be watching :)



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Posted 01 January 2023 - 10:52 PM

I use PinballY as a frontend but...I'm calling the tables up right from VPX itself not through the frontend.



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Posted 01 January 2023 - 11:31 PM

right click on the backglass and set it to have exact name so that it cant do that.


Edited by LoadedWeapon, 01 January 2023 - 11:31 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2023 - 11:48 PM

Thanks but I have checked and unchecked the "exact name" box as well and it makes no difference, the AFM backglass still shows up...



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Posted 02 January 2023 - 01:22 AM

do you have all tables (and their respective backglasses in separate folders? 



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Posted 02 January 2023 - 02:38 AM

All my tables and backglasses are in the Tables folder as per normal, no separate folders.



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Posted 02 January 2023 - 03:44 AM

Is it doing this in pinball y or outside or both. I used to love pinball y but went to popper years ago. There is no reason to not use popper. It’s amazing

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Posted 02 January 2023 - 04:09 AM

I don't always use PinballY to start tables especially if I have just installed them so I don't know if it will happen if I load from PinballY or not, I'll try tomorrow. 



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Posted 02 January 2023 - 05:50 AM

All my tables and backglasses are in the Tables folder as per normal, no separate folders.

Ugh. I keep each table, b2s glass, tablename.res and b2ssettings.xml in its own folder. Makes troubleshooting (and maintenance) soooo much easier. I'm sorry I can't guess why you're getting that backglass on different games now :(



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Posted 02 January 2023 - 05:57 AM

Thanks anyway.



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Posted 02 January 2023 - 08:42 AM

Sometimes these strange behavior could be when VPX find a "default" B2S in the tables folder. This could be an accidentally renamed/deleted old backglass file with only ".directb2s" leftover

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Posted 02 January 2023 - 04:33 PM

Is there such a thing as a "default" B2S?  If there is, any idea where I might find it?

 

Not sure what you mean by only ".directb2s" leftover.  I scoured the tables folder for errant AFM backglass files and could not find any "loose" ones, all the AFM .db2s files were connected to the VPX table.



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Posted 02 January 2023 - 05:29 PM

Search for a file named ".directb2s" - just the prefix, there is no table name in it...

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Posted 02 January 2023 - 05:32 PM

Is there such a thing as a "default" B2S?  If there is, any idea where I might find it?

 

Not sure what you mean by only ".directb2s" leftover.  I scoured the tables folder for errant AFM backglass files and could not find any "loose" ones, all the AFM .db2s files were connected to the VPX table.

somtimes ppl found a file named ".directb2s" which caused such problems. Pinball Y does not call backglasses, it only runs the vpx.exe - the problem must be in the backglassfiles folder. Sort the files and check them.


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Posted 02 January 2023 - 05:47 PM

Search for a file named ".directb2s" - just the prefix, there is no table name in it...

 

Solved - that did the trick. 

 

I reordered my tables folder by type and looked for a .directb2s extension with no file name and sure enough, I found it.  It had the same date and time as the file directly below it - Attack From Mars.  Removed the no name db2s file, loaded up the Bond 60th table and voila, no mor AFM backglass image over the pup video.

 

Thanks very much digitalarts and Tiki for your help, greatly appreciate it.



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Posted 03 January 2023 - 01:03 AM

 

Search for a file named ".directb2s" - just the prefix, there is no table name in it...

 

Solved - that did the trick. 

 

I reordered my tables folder by type and looked for a .directb2s extension with no file name and sure enough, I found it.  It had the same date and time as the file directly below it - Attack From Mars.  Removed the no name db2s file, loaded up the Bond 60th table and voila, no mor AFM backglass image over the pup video.

 

Thanks very much digitalarts and Tiki for your help, greatly appreciate it.

 

Yet another reason to make folders for all the games and their associated files :) Glad you found it!



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Posted 04 January 2023 - 01:27 AM

Yet another reason to make folders for all the games and their associated files :) Glad you found it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

bugger on that
dont want to make 2500 separate folders


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Posted 04 January 2023 - 04:43 PM   Best Answer

My thoughts as well...



#20 Cliffy

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Posted 06 January 2023 - 01:27 AM

 

Yet another reason to make folders for all the games and their associated files :) Glad you found it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

bugger on that
dont want to make 2500 separate folders

 

yeah you're right. what was I thinking? sorry I keep trying