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[jpsalas]

Fast Draw VP9



Version: 1.0.1
Category: VPinMAME 9.x Recreations

Author(s): jpsalas

Description:
It uses the Amazon Hunt ROM for a different gameplay than the EM version.
Updated to VP9 from the latest VP8 table.
Fixed the nudge and the droptargets.

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Submitted by jpsalas, on Oct 24 2009, 07:23 AM

Edited by jpsalas, 25 October 2009 - 02:33 AM.

[The Loafer]

Thanks for the update to all these JPS vp8 tables.

[Bob5453]

Thanks JP!

For a future update, I noticed the bumpers are still active after tilting and the table TILTs with 1 nudge.

[StevOz]

Good work on all these VP9 updates, though just looking at the screenshot here the drop targets appear to have some transparency issues or the control points are set incorrectly.

[jpsalas]

I have fixed the nudge and the droptargets.
I forgot the droptargets are a little different in VP9.
The tilt won't disable the bumpers. I remember I got some kind of error when I used that "GameOn" solenoid, but now I don't remember what it was that wasn't working.

[Bob5453]

The tilt won't disable the bumpers. I remember I got some kind of error when I used that "GameOn" solenoid, but now I don't remember what it was that wasn't working.

How about something like.... If Tilted Then Exit Sub

[Practicedummy]

This is one of those games that don't have slingshots, I wonder if Noah will put up a poll on pinball maniacs preferences whether they like tables with slingshots, without them or both?

[ANDROID]

Hello JP,and all!!

PROBLEM:
I play Fast Draw and El Dorado alot, and it is difficult but fun on you/JP versions. When I finally do get a special on Fast Draw, the knocker sound rings three times, not for high score, but landing in special kicker holes or completing the targets. The funny thing is you hear the knocker 3 times for every special but the replay number on the backglass never changes!
I believe El Dorado has the same problem. When you have time,..could you take a look at the script. Anyone!! other authors or script guys who like to tinker, that can figure it out for JP, would be appreciated. I don't want to stop the flow of his creative genious, for some of these errors.
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SHAMELESS PLUG/THREAD BUMPER Holler if you agree, or not!!

More players should check these awesome playing tables out!!!! and you will improve your game and nudging skills!

You will find the change of scoring and music incorporates the Morricone/spaghetti western style music, which I find relaxing,...and to make them more challenging than the original scoring and specials.

The IPDB's top EM's of all time list the FIRST 12 tables as GOTTLIEB from the 70's and late 60's (the Hey Dey of
pinball)

I know I bugged, probably too much so, JP to recreate El Dorado, which he did a fantastic job ..

These classic Popotte/Greywolf/Margoni authored Future Pinball Gottlieb EM's from the 70's deserve a VP/VPM mod/recreation from those excellent quality pictures like JPS did with El Dorado, Fast Draw etc. Those other Gottliebs like High Hand, Volley, 2001, 1776, Big Brave, Card Whiz, Centigrade 37, Cleopatra, Flipper Pool, Kingpin, Hot Shot, Jungle, Joker Poker, Target Alpha, Kings and Queens, Pinball Pool, Pioneer, Pro Football, Pro Pool, Royal Flush, Sky Jump, Ship Ahoy, Spin Out, Spirit of '76, Sure Shot, Surfer, and many more should get the JP VPM treatment!!. The Vast majority of these (Popotte, Greywolf), and Margoni have done with Hi Res Graphics for Future Pinball, look stunningly fantastic in their color and simplicity, but the gameplay meh!

Most of the true flipper skills of that era were employed on these predominately drop target, rollover type Gottlieb Tables!!
Even todays monster tables, with all the toys, and I love them, are predominately target arranged with double inlanes and outlanes, & Steel wire guides, which most of the Gottlieb 70's EMs are famous for.

I'm not sure if JP is going to revisit the seventies again, so if anyone is good at table making, all the graphics for these awesome fun tables are at Future and Popotte, Greywolf etc. have always been generous in granting persmission to those wanting to convert them, and I am sure JP won't mind if you use his script as a guideline for these EM"S with their permissions of course
PURE UNADULTERATED GREED ON MY PART!!
"nuff SAID" ANDROID

Edited by ANDROID, 13 April 2010 - 06:37 AM.

[jpsalas]

About the problem: I guess you need to press F6 and set the options. See if the novelty mode is on, if it is then the extra ball and replay just gives you 50.000 points.

About making the other tables, I'm planning on making a few older ones, in the mean time you may try "El bueno, el feo y el malo" from my site it is another spaghetti western based table, also based on a very known layout but with some different rules (very easy ones).

JP

[ANDROID]

Thanks JP,
I changed it from novelty to points, and it gives only one special/replay. I suppose the novelty is hearing the knocker three times. The special is really tough to get by knocking down all ten upper targets twice then hitting the lit cactus for the special or the lit one on the side. Once accomplishing this, the upper bank should stay lit for specials.
The real El Dorado pin you have all five balls to knock down the upper ten and the side 5 and you get the special light after ten. At that point the special stays lit. You can get another special/replay by aiming for the next lit cactus up above. Then you can advance the light in TWO places, a rollover target should be in the middle where you have the HOLD BONUS round red light, and the round target above the lower left flipper. IF you miss enough drop targets on the ten bank, then its easier to knock all the targets down, so that one light doesnt have to move and you still get a special. However if the light is one spot away from a standing drop target then it is easier to advance the light, then aim for the standing lit drop target, to not only get the bigger point value, but also the replay/special.
I think that knocking down all twenty and one drop targets for one special on one ball only is way to tough. I have done it, but few and far between.
You can keep it this way 21 targets, but you shouldnt have to knock down another 21 targets to get another replay/special, especially using only one ball.
You have effectively made it 10 times harder 5balls x 2 upper banks=10
Just my opinion, but its a replay game, not an add-a-ball. It should also have replay values for three increasing scores. maybe 1.2, 1.8, 2.4 million.
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I tried el bueno, el malo, and el feo ( it appears to look alot like Sheriff/Lawman with the middle added drop targets, and the inlane on the left added ) and it was alot of fun. and had nice flow. A couple of things, the top entry lanes dont have much bounce to them for a plunger that is tough to control, it would be nice to be able to nudge it towards the lit lane. A lot of times the side of the el bueno targets are dropped too easy by falling balls almost hitting the sides. Maybe the impact zone could be limited to the front of the cards, so that an extremely sideways hit wouldn't drop them.

Just my two cents, it still was alot of fun. Visited your site again, and I see you have Disarmageddon VP9 WIP, and the ramp shot to the upper playfield etc. The bunker shot is kinda narrow, but I still like most of ver1.32 both reg and expert.

I forgot about a couple more gottliebs you recreated Joker Poker, and cleopatra is a blast also!!!
Thanks again for the tips!!
Tu amigo, Andres

Edited by ANDROID, 14 April 2010 - 07:15 AM.