21 replies to this topic

[juzcook]

Hi guys, I've been having a lot of trouble trying to get my non-steam version of Pinball FX2 to run through Hyperpin. I've read through everything I can find on these forums, as well as on Google and everything seems to be related to the Steam version.

 

So far I've done the following:

- Downloaded the correct version of AutoHotKey

- Added "Pinball FX2" to my Future Pinball xml with the dud Future Pinball table supplied on the forums

- Tried altering the FPLaunch code as mentioned in another thread:

    Replacing

    Run, "%SteamDirPath%\Steam.exe" -applaunch 226980,,UseErrorLevel

    With

    Run, "Path_to_Pinball_FX2\Pinball FX2.exe",,UseErrorLevel

- Compiling the new FPLaunch.exe

 

For tidiness and ease of transfer to other PC's I've placed my emulators in a folder within Hyperpin. So Pinball FX2.exe for example is located in C:\HyperPin\Emulators\Pinball FX2

 

So now I don't get any error messages, but my mouse disappears until I restart my PC and Pinball FX2 doesn't open at all. I'm sure I haven't set a path to the directory but I just can't get my head around it. If anyone has a quick easy code fix for me that would really be appreciated! Besides that, everything else has been coming along for my cabinet build really well and this it the final piece to the puzzle! Thanks

[BigBoss]

Mouse disappears because fplaunch script has code in it to kill the mouse pointer and the script hasn't exited.

There is not a version of pinball fx2 that's a "non steam version" unless you're stealing it. Personally, I am not interested in helping someone steal a commercial app, especially one that's so awesome and that has tables at only $3 a piece.

But in general, run whatever command you run outside of fplaunch to test it.

[BlackPredator72]

You can reactivate the mouse with pushing (one or more times) the letter T from the keyboard.

I also have the non steam / non Windows 8 version of Pinball FX2 and I've got it working with my FPLaunch.ahk.

Only difference is that I have it installed in the default directory Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Game Studios\Pinball FX2.

I can send my .ahk file to you, but it will be sunday or monday cause I'm on holidays at the moment.

 

My next mission is to run my non steam Pinball Arcade through HyperPin....it's starting but the 270 degrees rotating isn't working as it should.

 

PS... I'm curious if BigBoss has never downloaded something like a (awesome) movie, (awesome) music, games or whatever ??

[nromo]

Downloading Movies is not the same thing. Who cares. That industry is so big and lucrative it's not really a big deal. However, the small nitch interest of computer pinball simulation needs all the help it can get. You people who enjoy it are fools  and cheepskates to pirate  it.

[BigBoss]

Downloading Movies is not the same thing. Who cares. That industry is so big and lucrative it's not really a big deal. However, the small nitch interest of computer pinball simulation needs all the help it can get. You people who enjoy it are fools  and cheepskates to pirate  it.

Yes. This. Well said. Especially when tables are $3 a piece. You guys are the ultimate cheapskates. Disgusting Maybe get a job if $3 is an amount that actually concerns you.

[anfiach]

I'm pretty sure that it's available in the Windows 8 marketplace but jumping to conclusions ftw.

[BigBoss]

I'm pretty sure that it's available in the Windows 8 marketplace but jumping to conclusions ftw.

It's not jumping to conclusions. Based on the first poster he says: 

 

So Pinball FX2.exe for example is located in C:\HyperPin\Emulators\Pinball FX2

 

 

This is not where windows8 versions are stored or even how they work.  Next, the second poster says:

 

 

I also have the non steam / non Windows 8 version of Pinball FX2

That eliminates the windows8 "jumping to conclusion" outright. Finally, the poster further states:

 

 

PS... I'm curious if BigBoss has never downloaded something like a (awesome) movie, (awesome) music, games or whatever ??

 

 

So yea, if you're going to jump in, perhaps try to at very least read the thread beforehand.

[Shakenbake]

BigBoss For The Win

[Pinball999]

Well.. Welcome Juzcook

[anfiach]

 

I'm pretty sure that it's available in the Windows 8 marketplace but jumping to conclusions ftw.

It's not jumping to conclusions. Based on the first poster he says: 

 

So Pinball FX2.exe for example is located in C:\HyperPin\Emulators\Pinball FX2

 

 

This is not where windows8 versions are stored or even how they work.  Next, the second poster says:

 

 

I also have the non steam / non Windows 8 version of Pinball FX2

That eliminates the windows8 "jumping to conclusion" outright. Finally, the poster further states:

 

 

PS... I'm curious if BigBoss has never downloaded something like a (awesome) movie, (awesome) music, games or whatever ??

 

 

So yea, if you're going to jump in, perhaps try to at very least read the thread beforehand.

 

  Fair enough man, I should have read more carefully.

[freneticamnesic]

Steam is free.... so running a non-Steam version of a Steam app is circumventing Steam's protection measures for some reason...

 

Anyways, it's been discussed before, so a search would have produced answers and you would have avoided looking like a pirate.

 

 but I think BigBoss took care of you

[BlackPredator72]

Arr, Steam is free....and one steam.dll is enough to have all 40 $3 tables for free too. I didn't pirate it...just pushed on create NZB and suddenly it was on my computer.

I only pay for real good games like Battlefield or Call of Duty to play online...the rest I don't give a f#ck....and Pinball FX2 isn't that good on a cab..it's almost like Future Pinball,

nice to have...but nothing more than that. The real thing is VP. So at least I'm not a fool....cause I don't enjoy it at all.

And cheapskate ? If I had to pay for everything I've downloaded....movies...games...navigation...music...software....I didn't had the money to import my Ford Mustang from the US...so that's a choice I've made.

So instead of helping each other here on the forum, let's discuss about piracy and things like that on this topic...very interesting...and for now...you can walk the plank mate ! Yo-ho-ho

[BigBoss]

I didn't pirate it...just pushed on create NZB and suddenly it was on my computer.

I hope you're joking. This is pirating it by definition. Lol... man. And that's not all you did if you're running it. Straight from the Skid Row nfo file:
1. Unpack release
2. Run Pinball.FX2.Build.181213.incl.DLC.exe
3. Install
4. Copy the cracked content from the SKIDROW folder to the main install folder and overwrite
5. Block the game in your firewall and mark our cracked content as secure/trusted in your antivirus program

That's a crapload of work to save $3 a table.
 

Pinball FX2 isn't that good on a cab..it's almost like Future Pinball,
nice to have...but nothing more than that.

You're serious about this? Pinball FX2 has way better physics than anything else out. And with DMD on second monitor, it's absolutely fantastic on a cabinet. There is nothing out there that has close to the same level of flipper physics, responsiveness, etc. Pinball FX2 flippers couldn't really be any better. You can do every trick in the book. Plus the shots go where you aim and there is no lag, none.

Some people argue that its physics are bad because the slingshots are weak and such. But that has nothing to do with physics. It has to do with table design choices. Sure, someone can make a table with weaker slingshots in real life also. There are no real versions of Mars or Sorcerers Lair to compare to anyway, so no one has any basis to say the weak slings are wrong. The rulesets are incredibly deep on pinball fx2 tables so you need the longer ball times to get anywhere. The games are a great deal of fun - if you like pinball that is.

Future pinball? That is horrible and unplayable. You cant make shots you aim at. The ball is floaty, it's nothing like real pinball. Even VP physics are horrible compared to pinball FX2 (until physmod changes, that is, and even with those VP is still a bit behind pinball fx2).

Edited by BigBoss, 20 May 2014 - 08:17 AM.

[BlackPredator72]

That's a crapload of work to save $3 a table.

 

No it's not...it's only about 5 minutes incl. downloading and installing...and it's $120..but I know it sounds better if you keep saying it's only $3 (a table).

This will be my last reply on it...so if you wonna have the last word...just reply one more time....or edit your last post some more...cause I'm getting a little tired/bored of this conversation.

 

Still think VP is the best...with DOF (contactors/strobes/shaker etc)...real DMD...real nudging...real plunger...real tables....the only thing I like on FX2 are those animations...but the gameplay is way too easy.

[BigBoss]

That's a crapload of work to save $3 a table.

 

Still think VP is the best...with DOF (contactors/strobes/shaker etc)...real DMD...real nudging...real plunger...real tables....the only thing I like on FX2 are those animations...but the gameplay is way too easy.

Letting the piracy part drop for moment but the other stuff is new so it deserves a response.

Pinball fx2's nudging using x360ce works just like VP analog nudging. The inputs the user has into a game are flippers and nudging. Pinball fx2 is far superior in one, equal in the other. Dof, strobes, shaker, those things are neato but have nothing to do with actual game play - they contribute to presentation. And I'll argue that the fx2 graphics and animations stomp all over vp's dof, shaker, etc. as far as presentation and wow factor. Finally, you say the fx2 games are too easy. But I don't agree at all. It's pretty easy to play a while and not drain the ball. It's very hard to beat the modes, get to wizard modes, and beat the games.

There's a big difference in ball times vs game difficulty. And I'm not trying to insult you with this. But I find most people that are more concerned with things like shakers, dof, ledwiz vs properly working flippers aren't really pinball players to begin with. I can't imagine any pinball player being satisfied with the inaccurate and inconsistent flipper shots in say vp9. Thankfully, it's really coming together with mukuste and his physics work the last 4 weeks.

Edited by BigBoss, 20 May 2014 - 11:31 AM.

[freneticamnesic]

Everything should be as easy as stealing.

 

Now here's the problem, anyone and their fucking mom can download a game from The Pirate Bay, oh and how great that it comes with a readme to help you circumvent copy protection! And, unfortunately anyone can post a question on pinball forums asking for help with their free shit. And get defended by like-minded thiefs for simply asking a question, one that shouldn't even be asked in the first place.

 

And lo, we shall defend our righteous ways, and we decried "it's not even real good!", and so stealing was OK.

Edited by freneticamnesic, 20 May 2014 - 02:39 PM.

[BlackPredator72]

it is OK...https://www.youtube....h?v=LJuw8EA0cYQ

 

and downloading is illegal just since 1 month now in the Netherlands...http://www.pcworld.c...etherlands.html

 

I'm downloading/copying things since my C64 times in the '80s...I think it's some kind of addiction....to have it all...but play only some, but now  since it's illegal...maybe things will change....or not...

 

But why do you make such a big problem of this...that a few people are downloading FX2 and want to have it into HyperPin for free, just because you're a saint and live in a country where there is no recession and everything is way cheaper then here (cars, fuel, alcohol, cigarettes, clothing, holidays etc.) ?

 

I just paid more than 6000 dollars for my cab, so I thought..let's save 100 bucks on having FX2 for free...who cares....ok maybe some people here.

Edited by BlackPredator72, 21 May 2014 - 10:28 AM.

[BigBoss]

it is OK...https://www.youtube....h?v=LJuw8EA0cYQ
 
and downloading is illegal just since 1 month now in the Netherlands...http://www.pcworld.c...etherlands.html
 
I'm downloading/copying things since my C64 times in the '80s...I think it's some kind of addiction....to have it all...but play only some, but now  since it's illegal...maybe things will change....or not...
 
But why do you make such a big problem of this...that a few people are downloading FX2 and want to have it into HyperPin for free, just because you're a saint and live in a country where there is no recession and everything is way cheaper then here (cars, fuel, alcohol, cigarettes, clothing, holidays etc.) ?

So what happened to this apparent lie?

This will be my last reply on it...so if you wonna have the last word...just reply one more time...

Anyways, I was also doing the same in the C64 days, amiga days, SNES, XBOX360 etc. But when a company only charges $3 for a table, it's silly to pirate it. Especially when the content is really good for $3 and supporting those companies helps more games tables come out in the future. But that's beside the point. If you're pirating it, the least you can do is not come here looking for help doing so eh?

[freneticamnesic]

As he said ^^^ we all steal something, the point is we don't want this to turn into a piracy safe haven. We're already skirting some rules with the tables we are supposedly allowed to download, we don't want the bigger software companies, like TPA and the creators of Pinball FX2, to have any reason to point to us as a source of piracy and that we're part of the problem. If we assist in someone installing pirated software, where do we stop? Is that OK, but telling them where to download it is not? But you already said you created an NZB, so that kind of narrows that down.

 

So hey, everyone is free to log in to my astraweb account to download these tables, let's all meet back here and figure out how to install them. That won't be suspicious at all.

 

That's the point. If you're gonna do it, don't ask for help here. We're obviously not going to be able to stop you, but we can at least shame you for asking for help. It's good software, but not for me, which is why I don't have it and never bought it.

[nromo]

Go steal porn! It's producing way too many rich Bimbos!