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[blur]

i downloaded this table and did those steps (i must have been bored to death with nothing to do )

chas here is what's happening

1. first you enlarge length of the flippers from 116 to 135, this a big difference
2. then you spread flippers apart - so that drain in the middle is same as it was before (or close)
3. then you move flipper rails to be on top of flippers and to make even width passages for inner and outer lanes

this is when problem comes - since you enlarged flippers, made drain same size - moved flippers to the edges - of course you have much less space for lanes - and of course they are now too narrow and of course the ball will stuck

and here is explanation why chas is doing this, check this picture of edited table (only flippers) and check original screenshot of this table, compare them:

must save post now to get link to my attachment so i can insert it in post, will come back in a sec...
okidoki, can't insert images side by side, but you see old table in the post and edited table in the attachment, so compare them



what do you see?
what's the difference?

difference is - new flippers are longer, so older flippers were shorter, but why did they looked squeezed to chas - cause we all know they were not really squeezed
they looked squeezed because they were very high!!! and so instead of reducing height - chas decides to enlarge length leaving height the same

what is bothering chas is standard old fashion view of the flippers which i call up your nose view when flippers are too high so they just don't look real

chas there are 2 better solutions for that:
1. prefered one if table is angle independent - change table to layback view - 0 30 80 is good starting point (for inclination fov and layback), of course you have to set xy scale and offset also
2. if table is not angle independent - change flippers and rubbers height - not length - with few new numbers flippers will look great even on non layback tables!!! - good values are 10 16 30 (rubber offset, rubber width and flipper height)

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Edited by blur, 03 April 2012 - 06:50 AM.

[Rawd]

Blur,

You must be much nicer and more patient than myself. Thanks. Hopefully Chas can figure this out now.

[elton]

Blur,

You must be much nicer and more patient than myself. Thanks. Hopefully Chas can figure this out now.

I very much doubt that

[wildman]

Man i thought this thread was dead..LOL..Comon rawd you have a new friend man...dont worry be happy..

[chas]

negative to everything Blur.
i did lengthen the flips and lowered the height.
there was plenty of space for the ball.
the ball wa sstickin to the inner trigger and rail like a magnet.
after making new rails the ball passed through.
im pretty sure i posted in a previous post earlier in the thread i used the grid on 10 to make sure the inner and outer lanes were equal with more than enough space for the ball to pass through.
its ok,
i solved it.
were done.

Edited by chas, 03 April 2012 - 06:48 AM.

[blur]

ha ha ha, what is better then when you solve someones problem after hours of tinkering and he won't even tell you - yup, you nailed it, tnx - or something like that but he says you are all wrong?????


chas you don't understand - there is no need to change length of the flippers or move any rail in the first place - you just need to reduce the height of the flippers and/or use layback view like i said in my previous post


read it carefully - i know you don't like to read what others say but you like to write thousands of words and instructions that you expect others to read, i wrote you complete instructions how to make screenshot and you asked 10 times for instructions after that without reading carefully what i said - read carefully others posts!

Edited by blur, 03 April 2012 - 08:50 AM.

[elton]

[chas]

ha ha ha, what is better then when you solve someones problem after hours of tinkering and he won't even tell you - yup, you nailed it, tnx - or something like that but he says you are all wrong?????>>>>>>>>>>>
hmm, not sure what you mean.
i guess you spent hours on it.
sorry bout dat.
it only took me about 5minutes to change the flippers and the rails.
just thought you would be interested in this after i made some changes.
the tables play fine.
i dunno why i am the only one getting small flippers on WS long body.
the vertical and the FS flipper settings were the same but the fS fliipers were small.

i could not get you a screeny.
went into help and support.
typed "print screen"
did not work for a flash drive.

i do read the threads.
may i dont want LB.
its ok but dont need it.

the thread is over.
its done.

Edited by chas, 03 April 2012 - 06:07 PM.

[rascal]

Ok, I'll say it. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP EVERYBODY!

Nothing to see here, pack it up and go home.

[FDSystems]

Ok, I'll say it. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP EVERYBODY!

Nothing to see here, pack it up and go home.

I only came here because I saw a Rascal´s post !


PS: Also Triple Strike is a fantastic table ! Thanks again Rawd !

Edited by 1234fd, 05 April 2012 - 12:58 AM.

[Bob5453]

Great Table, but the flippers seem too small, anyone notice that?

[FDSystems]

Not with my eye glasses !

[blur]

Great Table, but the flippers seem too small, anyone notice that?

How do you mean small, can you explain it? Or do you mean squeezed?

[FDSystems]

Great Table, but the flippers seem too small, anyone notice that?

How do you mean small, can you explain it? Or do you mean squeezed?

Squeezed or exquisite ? That makes a big difference, doesn´t it ?

[Bob5453]

Great Table, but the flippers seem too small, anyone notice that?

How do you mean small, can you explain it? Or do you mean squeezed?

I mean this thread is too good die, just trying to squeeze a few more comments into it.

[FDSystems]

Great Table, but the flippers seem too small, anyone notice that?

How do you mean small, can you explain it? Or do you mean squeezed?

I mean this thread is too good die, just trying to squeeze a few more comments into it.

@admin : make it STICKY ?

[maceman]

...I used to wake up to a morning coffee and google news..... but this is much better

Can someone add a weather widget to the thread so i can be complete. Thanx

[rascal]

We need a screen picture Bob. Pull out the old Polaroid camera, snap a picture and then run to the drugstore and copy it on a xerox copier. Send us a copy to PO Box 6912034, Oldenville NY and we'll send it to the lab to have enlarged and photo copied and have an answer for the small flippers in two to three months.

[FDSystems]

We need a screen picture Bob. Pull out the old Polaroid camera, snap a picture and then run to the drugstore and copy it on a xerox copier. Send us a copy to PO Box 6912034, Oldenville NY and we'll send it to the lab to have enlarged and photo copied and have an answer for the small flippers in two to three months.

Outdated technologies !
Be a geek!
Use a fax !

[The Loafer]

Never has a thread both. Pissed me off and made me laugh... At the same time!