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Rook's 42/27/17 Big Bang Bar cabinet project...
Started By
Rook
, Nov 08 2010 06:49 AM
84 replies to this topic
#61
Posted 25 January 2012 - 05:40 AM
I bought one of the original backglasses a few years ago when I originally thought about making a cabinet, but because I recycled an existing cabinet instead of scratch building one, the original backbox didn't have the same dimensions. The Capcom backbox is wider than the ones made by Bally/Williams.
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#62
Posted 25 April 2012 - 08:15 PM
Realized I hadn't updated my build in... forever.
The new LCD tray...
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Painted.
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Also have the DMD monitor mounted in place.
Still a lot more to do but I've been busy with other projects.
And Mass Effect 3.
The new LCD tray...
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134 downloadsPainted.
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149 downloadsAlso have the DMD monitor mounted in place.
Still a lot more to do but I've been busy with other projects.
And Mass Effect 3.
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#63
Posted 25 April 2012 - 11:51 PM
Looking good, I understand the one I built last year is now for sale 
Hurry up and finish this will ya
Hurry up and finish this will ya
PM me for any CNC needs.
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#64
Posted 26 April 2012 - 06:04 PM
QUOTE
Looking good, I understand the one I built last year is now for sale
Oh yeah? How much?
I'm working on different projects too at the moment. Resin casting some Anime weapons, modding a nerf gun into a
Morita rifle from Starship Troopers, scratch building an SMG from Mass Effect... I really need to learn how to focus on ONE
project at a time.
It took me a while to get the rail placement correct in the cabinet, but now she's set and it doesn't bind up. That
was a great concept and design, thanks for solving one of the biggest engineering hurdles I had in this project! I just
need to add support blocks for the front end so the tray can rest IN the cabinet and not on top of the front panel.
Just curious, how large of panels can your CNC machine handle?
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#65
Posted 26 April 2012 - 06:46 PM
QUOTE (Rook @ Apr 26 2012, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just curious, how large of panels can your CNC machine handle?
right now 4'x4' but will be expanding it to a full 8'x4' later this year.
PM me for any CNC needs.
Find me on Facebook....Xtreme Pinball
Doctor Who Cabinet Build Thread Here
Tron Cabinet Build Thread Here
Big Bang Bar Build Thread Here
Mameman's cnc fun
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Doctor Who Cabinet Build Thread Here
Tron Cabinet Build Thread Here
Big Bang Bar Build Thread Here
Mameman's cnc fun
#67
Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:59 PM
Finally... after a year and a half of delays... I finally decased my 42" LCD last weekend.
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The decasing was actually very easy. The Viso's come apart pretty fast. What took the longest time was
removing the speakers, which are stuck to the screen with double sided foam tape.
I unplugged the speakers from the main PCB and just put them aside since I won't be using them.
I made some supports for the sides, but didn't have any long screws to actually mount them in place.
After I get the side supports situated, I'll need to cut a hole in the bottom to allow access to the video plugs.
Slowly moving ahead...
Maybe I'll have it done before Armageddon on 12/12/2012.
visio1_1.jpg 115.11KB
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66 downloadsThe decasing was actually very easy. The Viso's come apart pretty fast. What took the longest time was
removing the speakers, which are stuck to the screen with double sided foam tape.
I unplugged the speakers from the main PCB and just put them aside since I won't be using them.
I made some supports for the sides, but didn't have any long screws to actually mount them in place.
After I get the side supports situated, I'll need to cut a hole in the bottom to allow access to the video plugs.
Slowly moving ahead...
Maybe I'll have it done before Armageddon on 12/12/2012.
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#68
Posted 10 August 2012 - 06:20 PM
Haven't done too much, but have done some.
Got the access holes cut in the monitor tray...
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...got the OEM power wiring lines (from the power cord through the on/off switch box) wired up
so I can use the original power switch with the rest of the hardware.
And also mounted the playfield monitor to the monitor tray.
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Still haven't powered it up though.
Also mounted the plastic guide rails and put the glass on it to protect the monitor from the animals.
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Bondo-ed the holes in the cab from mounting the monitor tray rails and some splintering at the back from
cutting the computer door. Still need to sand that smooth to prep for painting again.
Been working on my Tron upright cabinet, so pin work has been slow.
Got the access holes cut in the monitor tray...
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114 downloads...got the OEM power wiring lines (from the power cord through the on/off switch box) wired up
so I can use the original power switch with the rest of the hardware.
And also mounted the playfield monitor to the monitor tray.
open.jpg 151.58KB
128 downloadsStill haven't powered it up though.
Also mounted the plastic guide rails and put the glass on it to protect the monitor from the animals.
monitor_testmount.jpg 159.53KB
139 downloadsBondo-ed the holes in the cab from mounting the monitor tray rails and some splintering at the back from
cutting the computer door. Still need to sand that smooth to prep for painting again.
Been working on my Tron upright cabinet, so pin work has been slow.
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#69
Posted 07 September 2012 - 08:25 PM
Got the PC laid out on the pull out tray, powered it up... and nothing.
Wouldn't even show the Bios info. Power turns on the fans for about 3 seconds, then they shut off.
At first I thought the power supply might be bad, so I took it in to a local PC repair place and they
tested it and it came up good. Hmmm...
Took the PC down to the shop and had one of our techs look at it. After messing with it for a while,
we've pretty much determined that the CPU is shot. So, it looks like I'm looking for a new Motherboard/CPU
set.
Ah well, nothing in life is easy, right?
And speaking of stuff that doesn't work... just picked up a 1987 Sega Thunder Blade video game in
"working" condition... yeah, working in 1987 maybe. Main fuse on the monitor chassis blows, no audio... yay.
More work ahead for certain...
Wouldn't even show the Bios info. Power turns on the fans for about 3 seconds, then they shut off.
At first I thought the power supply might be bad, so I took it in to a local PC repair place and they
tested it and it came up good. Hmmm...
Took the PC down to the shop and had one of our techs look at it. After messing with it for a while,
we've pretty much determined that the CPU is shot. So, it looks like I'm looking for a new Motherboard/CPU
set.
Ah well, nothing in life is easy, right?
And speaking of stuff that doesn't work... just picked up a 1987 Sega Thunder Blade video game in
"working" condition... yeah, working in 1987 maybe. Main fuse on the monitor chassis blows, no audio... yay.
More work ahead for certain...
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#70
Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:06 PM
Lol, buying additional computer parts has pushed the cost of my build over $2k.
Spread out over 3 years, that's only like $55 a month.
*sigh*
Spread out over 3 years, that's only like $55 a month.
*sigh*
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#72
Posted 20 October 2012 - 12:56 AM
That playfield monitor is going to run pretty hot with no ventilation. If I used an LCD tray like that, I'd cut a hole for a 120mm fan on one end and an exhaust on the other. My playfield is is tight to the glass, so I can feel the heat through the glass. My 39" westinghouse is an LED so it runs cooler than a typical LCD too.
#73
Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:41 AM
Strange, I thought I'd updated this... well, let's fix that problem. ![]()
Well, got busy with OTHER projects, including a Tron Arcade cab restoration
which is ALMOST FINISHED! I just have to slightly resand the sides, repaint,
mount the "T" moulding and put the new side art on it, plus sand and repaint
the back doors, and it will be pretty much done. Even in it's 90% state it looks
pretty sweet all lit up and plays perfectly!
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Yep, that's a Tron Legacy film Encom marquee on it instead of the old Bally Midway one. ![]()
My progress on the pincab in the last year has been...
Mounted the playfield monitor guide rails (supplied by Mameman!) and
monitor tray. Mounted the 42" LCD on the tray. Did some bondo/sanding
work on the screw holes and other damage from the PC tray cutting.
Got the 17" LCD for the Dot Matrix panel mounted.
Ran into some PC issues with my Pincab, and had to spread out replacement
parts buying for half a year.
But, as of 2 weeks ago I finally have my Pincab PC running!
I FINALLY got both Visual Pinball/Pinmame and Future Pinball running
on the PC with Hyperpin.
I've spent the last week adding Full screen tables and tweaking the directories
and art (Playfield/Wheel art) libraries.There's a few tweaks that need to be
done including finding full screen tables to replace the desktop
ones in my collection, and when I get it back in the cabinet I'll probably have to retweak
everything again to reflect the changes in the display monitors I'll be using, compared to my smaller
desktop test monitor I've been using to get it set up.
Getting closer to being done!
Edited by Rook, 25 January 2013 - 07:56 AM.
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#74
Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:35 PM
So... Superbowl Sunday saw the install of the PC in the cab!
Apparently windows 7 decided it was time to install 5 billion updates and service pack 1...
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An hour later we got to this stage...
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And this...
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Things "left" to do...
Hook up the ipac keyboard encoder. I'm getting MAJOR flipper lag that I understand is coming from the wireless
keyboard I'm using at the moment. It REALLY SUCKS and its making table setup kind of a pain in the...
keyboard. ![]()
Figure out how to rotate the DMD on some tables. Some people's full screen tables have the DMD turned correctly,
others... do not. WTF?
Sound! I NEED SOUND! I remember like 2 years ago somebody used some sort of off the shelf (Logitec?)
speaker system and wired it into a regular pinball speaker. Have to search the forums to find the info.
There's more to do, but it's getting there... kinda. ![]()
Edited by Rook, 05 February 2013 - 06:41 PM.
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#76
Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:01 PM
yep, figured DMD rotation it was done in the script... someplace. Just haven't narrowed it down yet. ![]()
It still amazes me I've gotten this far. ![]()
I have real pinball speakers mounted in my cab at the moment. Just need
to interface the PC hookups to the real speakers. Can't wait to hear what I'm
SUPPOSED to be hearing.
I hope to upgrade to the control upgrade with motion control. Ipac works fine, but pinball ain't
pinball without being able to nudge.
Edited by Rook, 05 February 2013 - 07:17 PM.
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#77
Posted 26 March 2013 - 05:55 PM
In the last 3 weeks I have Hyperpin "running" (still occasional crashes/freezes with VPM) and have most of the wheel images/table graphics working.
Got one of the Amps they use in the Virtuapin, and after a couple hours of "Why don't you work!" finally got it sorted out!
The stupid win 7 software was trying to use the PF monitor's speakers (through HDMI) as the default sound source. Had to go into the
windows config to force it to use the "regular" PC speakers. Sooooo very cool to have sound again and the sound out of the
OEM pinball speakers I recycled is just fine! I keep having to turn the sound DOWN because it's so dang loud! ![]()
Spent another week tweaking all the DMD settings and doing the DMD flip (ROL = 0) that some tables require to display properly.
Got my Ipaq hooked up and it (finally) seems to work okay. I don't recall what the issue was that I was having before, but the flipper lag
issue has pretty much disappeared. You exit a table by holding down the start and buy in buttons. Easy!
What's left to do?
all cabinet graphics
backbox hinges (have them, just not installed)
nudge mechanism
exhaust fan
rails (have to wait until side art is installed)
PF monitor bezel of some sort...
also need to secure all the wiring properly and run the power cable out the back of the cab instead of out the
coin door like it is now.
Still need to wire up the coin door as well.
Still thinking of upgrading to a 3rd monitor (backglass) and really tempted by the DMD driver board currently being offered, but the DMD panel
is a bit high cost for me right now.
Overall, I'm pretty happy with how its turning out. I wish I could figure out why VP likes to crash so much when exiting a table, but overall
it works pretty well.
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#78
Posted 31 October 2013 - 06:23 PM
Just a minor update.
Last spring My Pincab PC downloaded a windows update which completely FUBARed the entire system.
I was eventually able to use a Linux boot drive and save all my databases and files to a USB HDD.
And in September, I was downsized, so I haven't had any spare cash for parts or upgrades.
So I was then forced to reinstall Win7, and after that... I was so frustrated I didn't look at the thing
the rest of the summer... until this week.
I started messing with the settings again, and reinstalling all the core VP/FP/Hyperpin files. What a pain!
On the plus side, I DID find ROM's Tron Legacy FP recreation, so that made me happy. ![]()
This week I policed all the wiring, FINALLY ran the OEM power plug and bolted it to the back of the cabinet.
I also recessed and drilled a push button on/off switch for the pinball PC. It's located just behind the main
power toggle switch.
I still need to wire up the admin buttons, and coin switches in the coin door. To add credits now I'm still
using the wireless keyboard.
Now I just need to figure out WTF is going on with Hyperpin causing the mouse pointer to go invisible
after the program is exited, and why FP crashes after exiting and selecting another table.
Edited by Rook, 31 October 2013 - 06:26 PM.
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#79
Posted 01 November 2013 - 05:46 AM
Now I just need to figure out WTF is going on with Hyperpin causing the mouse pointer to go invisible
after the program is exited, and why FP crashes after exiting and selecting another table.
Maybe it's too much for that brand spanking new 486 computer you built when you started this build....![]()
Don't pm or expect an answer from me here ... the links above are my contacts.
I know so much about so little that I could teach you all there is to know about nothing......
#80
Posted 01 November 2013 - 06:30 AM
LOL! Yeah, but it was a 486DX! ![]()
I'm actually running a 3.3ghz Core i3 now. What's wierd is it doesn't seem too much faster than the
dual core 2.? gig in my laptop.
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