Jump to content



Photo
- - - - -

VP 990 vs VP 921 out of memory error


  • Please log in to reply
76 replies to this topic

#41 ICPjuggla

ICPjuggla

    Early Retirement

  • VIP
  • 1,193 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Star Wars

Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:19 AM

Let us help you sort out the issue ICPJ, as that's all this was, an issue preventing db2s from working as it should. You are right, that is a decent rig, the only thing that worries me is the SLI configuration because some members have said on some rigs sometimes SLI cards can have a little stutter (but others are fine so who knows?).
 
As I mentioned earlier, one of the big things with db2S is that for many people, you need to run the backglasses in exe mode, so if that's not something you've tried, I figure that would do the trick.  As well, there are a few db2s out there that are a little bit pushing the hardware but in all cases I've come across, there's been another version that available somewhere that has resolved the issue.  What I would suggest is, if you can find the time to try reinstalling it, ensure you put it in exe mode, give it a try and for a table that you find has some stutter issue, let us test that same table and see if we can figure out the issue.


I run all db2s in exe and simple LEDs. I wish there was a setting to just use static but I don't think there is.

I'll create another topic for this in a few days. We are derailing LTA's thread about 990 line one crashing, as I'm still having the same problem.. :-) I'd like to figure out as LTA said no offence to anyone why there is a problem here with the legacy and 990 not working.

Edited by ICPjuggla, 03 July 2014 - 11:38 AM.

cosmicgunfight-sig2.png breakshot-sig-small3.png atlantis-sig-small.png mousinaround-sig6.png hurricane-sig16.png sc-badge1.png lw-sig.png embryon-logo0.png icp-3.png apollo13_badge(1).png whirlwind_badge0.png playboy_badge0.png oxo1.png raven_logo.png rambo_logo4.png


#42 arngrim

arngrim

    DJ Force Feedback

  • VIP
  • 2,188 posts
  • Location:Charleroi, Belgium

  • Flag: Belgium

  • Favorite Pinball: Monster bash



Posted 03 July 2014 - 12:19 PM

do you have stutters with db2s without ledcontrol.vbs?



#43 ICPjuggla

ICPjuggla

    Early Retirement

  • VIP
  • 1,193 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Star Wars

Posted 03 July 2014 - 12:27 PM

do you have stutters with db2s without ledcontrol.vbs?


Yes Hurricane is not set up on my system to run ledcontrol and gives me crazy stutter with db2s.

I've never taken out the files though so maybe I'll give that a shot tonight and see if it makes a difference taking them out of the tables folder.

cosmicgunfight-sig2.png breakshot-sig-small3.png atlantis-sig-small.png mousinaround-sig6.png hurricane-sig16.png sc-badge1.png lw-sig.png embryon-logo0.png icp-3.png apollo13_badge(1).png whirlwind_badge0.png playboy_badge0.png oxo1.png raven_logo.png rambo_logo4.png


#44 arngrim

arngrim

    DJ Force Feedback

  • VIP
  • 2,188 posts
  • Location:Charleroi, Belgium

  • Flag: Belgium

  • Favorite Pinball: Monster bash



Posted 03 July 2014 - 01:39 PM

you can remove or rename the ledcontrol.vbs for the test



#45 ICPjuggla

ICPjuggla

    Early Retirement

  • VIP
  • 1,193 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Star Wars

Posted 03 July 2014 - 02:06 PM

I'll test this tonight, when I get home from work. :-)

cosmicgunfight-sig2.png breakshot-sig-small3.png atlantis-sig-small.png mousinaround-sig6.png hurricane-sig16.png sc-badge1.png lw-sig.png embryon-logo0.png icp-3.png apollo13_badge(1).png whirlwind_badge0.png playboy_badge0.png oxo1.png raven_logo.png rambo_logo4.png


#46 ICPjuggla

ICPjuggla

    Early Retirement

  • VIP
  • 1,193 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Star Wars

Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:38 PM

Tested and confirmed.

I still get stutter with db2s even if the files are disabled. I even took them out of the tables folder.

I ran Hurricane with db2s in 9.2.1 and 9.9.0 makes no difference, still stutter.

If I remove db2s the table plays smooth as butter with and without the files in the tables folder, running 9.2.1 or 9.9.0.

cosmicgunfight-sig2.png breakshot-sig-small3.png atlantis-sig-small.png mousinaround-sig6.png hurricane-sig16.png sc-badge1.png lw-sig.png embryon-logo0.png icp-3.png apollo13_badge(1).png whirlwind_badge0.png playboy_badge0.png oxo1.png raven_logo.png rambo_logo4.png


#47 tttttwii

tttttwii

    Enthusiast

  • Platinum Supporter
  • 300 posts

  • Flag: Germany

  • Favorite Pinball: Attack from Mars

Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:07 PM

Have you tried a) to set the exe mode (press right button in backglass) and b) set the right colordepth (max). I had a to low colordepth and experienced also stutter. Good luck!

Edited by tttttwii, 03 July 2014 - 10:11 PM.


#48 ICPjuggla

ICPjuggla

    Early Retirement

  • VIP
  • 1,193 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Star Wars

Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:14 PM

Yes I've done both.

cosmicgunfight-sig2.png breakshot-sig-small3.png atlantis-sig-small.png mousinaround-sig6.png hurricane-sig16.png sc-badge1.png lw-sig.png embryon-logo0.png icp-3.png apollo13_badge(1).png whirlwind_badge0.png playboy_badge0.png oxo1.png raven_logo.png rambo_logo4.png


#49 luvthatapex

luvthatapex

    Pinball Fan

  • VIP
  • 1,435 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Tron



Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:49 PM

ok, late to the party but I finally had time to sort out my problem.

Confirmed ... vp990a works with my cab now after I removed all of the ledwiz files and configs. (actually I just renamed them all.

 

So ... now of course I have no flashers until I can get this DOF working.

I generated the directoutputconfig.ini and put it in my tables folder. I put the plugin folder in my tables folder.

No flashers. I have to read some more and figure out how to get this to work.

 

So at least vp990a works now. Onto the next step.



#50 ICPjuggla

ICPjuggla

    Early Retirement

  • VIP
  • 1,193 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Star Wars

Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:18 AM

Okay, turns out removing the one file ledcontrole.onfeedback.ini dose not help at all.. Tables running the led legacy still crash with the line one issue.
Removing both the ledcontrole.ini and the ledcontrole.onfeedback.ini the tables work as intended. No crash no problems
So is this an ledcontrole issue or a 9.9.0 issue?
In 9.2.1 all tables work with and without the two files. It seems 9.9.0 is causing something to go wrong with the ledcontrole files or vice versa..
Hmmmmmmm, I'm stumped even more.. lol :-)

  

ok, late to the party but I finally had time to sort out my problem.
Confirmed ... vp990a works with my cab now after I removed all of the ledwiz files and configs. (actually I just renamed them all.
 
So ... now of course I have no flashers until I can get this DOF working.
I generated the directoutputconfig.ini and put it in my tables folder. I put the plugin folder in my tables folder.
No flashers. I have to read some more and figure out how to get this to work.
 
So at least vp990a works now. Onto the next step.


So it's confirmed.

9.9.0 is not working with the legacy led control.

I'd still like to know why it works with 9.2.1 and not 9.9.0 something must of changed. I hope the dev team can find a fix for this and update 9.9.0.

Edited by ICPjuggla, 04 July 2014 - 12:42 AM.

cosmicgunfight-sig2.png breakshot-sig-small3.png atlantis-sig-small.png mousinaround-sig6.png hurricane-sig16.png sc-badge1.png lw-sig.png embryon-logo0.png icp-3.png apollo13_badge(1).png whirlwind_badge0.png playboy_badge0.png oxo1.png raven_logo.png rambo_logo4.png


#51 arngrim

arngrim

    DJ Force Feedback

  • VIP
  • 2,188 posts
  • Location:Charleroi, Belgium

  • Flag: Belgium

  • Favorite Pinball: Monster bash



Posted 04 July 2014 - 01:56 AM

ledcontrol is end of life support, we don't accept config updates in the configtool, just update to dof.... :)

#52 ICPjuggla

ICPjuggla

    Early Retirement

  • VIP
  • 1,193 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Star Wars

Posted 04 July 2014 - 02:29 AM

ledcontrol is end of life support, we don't accept config updates in the configtool, just update to dof.... :)


Like I said I'm going to lose 1/2 my tables with the toys I have in my cab.

Some db2s tables cause stutter, I have no choice but to use static backglass's on those tables. There is no option for a static backglass in db2s..

Doesn't it stand to reason people like options!! Why so pushy about it, it really doesn't make seance to me??? I understand it may be better but no offense I've spent countless hours getting my cab and tables to play without stutter and don't really want to start over with that.

cosmicgunfight-sig2.png breakshot-sig-small3.png atlantis-sig-small.png mousinaround-sig6.png hurricane-sig16.png sc-badge1.png lw-sig.png embryon-logo0.png icp-3.png apollo13_badge(1).png whirlwind_badge0.png playboy_badge0.png oxo1.png raven_logo.png rambo_logo4.png


#53 arngrim

arngrim

    DJ Force Feedback

  • VIP
  • 2,188 posts
  • Location:Charleroi, Belgium

  • Flag: Belgium

  • Favorite Pinball: Monster bash



Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:12 AM

in hyperpin for sure, and probably also in pinballx, (never tried i can run all db2s flawlessly, like the majority of the users), if you don't run a backglass it will display the backglass image of ypur frontendwhile you are playing, so here is a static backglass solution, but i thought the problem was confirmed it was ledcontrol
here are my graphical settings, that already helped other users against stutters, it's in french, like my windows in my cab
http://vpforums.org/..._MOD_1.3.2_FOM-[VP-9.x-Cabinet-FS-MOD]#entry270583

#54 ICPjuggla

ICPjuggla

    Early Retirement

  • VIP
  • 1,193 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Star Wars

Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:24 AM

I guess I'm not in the majority of the users... Yes the front end hyperpin will run a static backglass.

Isn't dof tied into db2s? If I can't run let's say Hurricane with the db2s b/c of stutter, then I would need to use a static backglass and now I've got no toys for that table running dof. Is that right?

cosmicgunfight-sig2.png breakshot-sig-small3.png atlantis-sig-small.png mousinaround-sig6.png hurricane-sig16.png sc-badge1.png lw-sig.png embryon-logo0.png icp-3.png apollo13_badge(1).png whirlwind_badge0.png playboy_badge0.png oxo1.png raven_logo.png rambo_logo4.png


#55 arngrim

arngrim

    DJ Force Feedback

  • VIP
  • 2,188 posts
  • Location:Charleroi, Belgium

  • Flag: Belgium

  • Favorite Pinball: Monster bash



Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:34 AM

i made a dof config for hurricane, 320 tables have been made for dof, and like i said, you can run b2s.server and dof without a db2s backglass

#56 luvthatapex

luvthatapex

    Pinball Fan

  • VIP
  • 1,435 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Tron



Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:36 AM

ok, so I got the DOF working after reading the instructions :)

While I have the configs for all of my tables, I still have to go through all of them again and put the line in to call the B2S.Server

No biggie, but it will take time and its working when I do this to each table.

 

The one big difference I noticed is the flipper lag. The same table plays better in 9.21 but of course it doesn;t take advantage of the updated graphics.

Maybe tables have to be updated to vp990 to work properly, that may be the case. Is there a physics file for vp990 tables I can load as my default for all tables?

 

Well at least I am almost there now. Thanks guys.



#57 ICPjuggla

ICPjuggla

    Early Retirement

  • VIP
  • 1,193 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Star Wars

Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:40 AM

i made a dof config for hurricane, 320 tables have been made for dof, and like i said, you can run b2s.server and dof without a db2s backglass


Okay, how do I do that?

cosmicgunfight-sig2.png breakshot-sig-small3.png atlantis-sig-small.png mousinaround-sig6.png hurricane-sig16.png sc-badge1.png lw-sig.png embryon-logo0.png icp-3.png apollo13_badge(1).png whirlwind_badge0.png playboy_badge0.png oxo1.png raven_logo.png rambo_logo4.png


#58 arngrim

arngrim

    DJ Force Feedback

  • VIP
  • 2,188 posts
  • Location:Charleroi, Belgium

  • Flag: Belgium

  • Favorite Pinball: Monster bash



Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:52 AM

check on the b2s gui options to disable error messages, you need the latest version

#59 ICPjuggla

ICPjuggla

    Early Retirement

  • VIP
  • 1,193 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Star Wars

Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:54 AM

check on the b2s gui options to disable error messages, you need the latest version


Where exactly is that located?

cosmicgunfight-sig2.png breakshot-sig-small3.png atlantis-sig-small.png mousinaround-sig6.png hurricane-sig16.png sc-badge1.png lw-sig.png embryon-logo0.png icp-3.png apollo13_badge(1).png whirlwind_badge0.png playboy_badge0.png oxo1.png raven_logo.png rambo_logo4.png


#60 arngrim

arngrim

    DJ Force Feedback

  • VIP
  • 2,188 posts
  • Location:Charleroi, Belgium

  • Flag: Belgium

  • Favorite Pinball: Monster bash



Posted 04 July 2014 - 04:02 AM

luv, check my graphic settings above, the max preferred options of nvidia runs better at 1 for flipper lag
in the gui of b2s...
click right on any db2s active, disable the check for displaying error messages