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[luvthatapex]

Fantastic release for dual screen/pincabs. I plugged in the UVP and this is one beautiful table. It plays great!
I will give it a thorugh workout tonight. Thanks for much for the Friday present!

[Bloodyhellfire]

Hay dude yer table rocks. There are many things that i could go on about that are different to the actual table itself as i do own one cus it's my fave ever game. Even so every Addams family proper cab i have played plays a bit different to any other so just get used to it as you have to and all is well. Skill shot is a little trickier than usual but i don't have a cab set up with a plunger yet so don't know how that will affect it. Also seems a bit of a small play area between chair and flippers but my 42 inch plasma is only 1280 by 1024 max and not 1920 by 1080 so can't say for sure if that would fix that either. Thing animation is awsome at last it made me grin like a cat from Wonderland. Fanbloodytastic

[melon]

Hi guys. I'm working on a little update, fixing all the things you've noticed, including the ball getting stuck near the bumper (sorry, I thought It was allready solved). I'll try to upload it today.

[The Trout]

set the tilt-times in the pinball (pinmame) menu to 5-10... that should fix your problem.

Hey, I can't find this option anywhere. Where do I go to change it?

[destruk]

Most people leave the tilt settings in the rom at factory default - (which is 3 warnings), so what he means is the tilt sensitivity line in the script.
vpmNudge.Sensitivity = 1

1 is the most sensitive/least forgiving setting. Most people use 3 or 5.

[The Trout]

Most people leave the tilt settings in the rom at factory default - (which is 3 warnings), so what he means is the tilt sensitivity line in the script.
vpmNudge.Sensitivity = 1

1 is the most sensitive/least forgiving setting. Most people use 3 or 5.

I used 5 and it still happens all the bloody time. Argh.

[destruk]

Sounds like you have a problem with your custom nudge routines in the script. You nudge the table a few times and it gives you the warnings, and if you wait a bit and nudge one more time it tilts the machine, which isn't correct. You can repro the problem by starting a game and nudging the table in the shooter lane without launching it into play. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the same for whatever tables you copied that from. They will all have the same issue. Of course with a motion board for nudging, the frontend handles that on Ultrapin, so the problem wouldn't show up on those. Anyway, in the keycode routine you have it do the nudge the way you want, and then you have vpmKeyDown(keycode) which runs the nudge routine in the wpc.vbs file if you're using the same nudge keys. So it's nudging twice for each keypress. I'm sure there's more problems than just that - like the pop bumpers shouldn't be firing when the game is tilted, but that should be the main source of the trouble to get you started.

Also, the delay timers don't appear to do much of anything. For instance, you do a left nudge, you tell vpm (the vbs files) to do the nudge for you, and you set a delay counter and enable the timer.
The timer decrements the delay counter and when it reaches 0 it disables the timer.

Sub LeftNudgeTimer_Timer()
LeftNudgeEffect = LeftNudgeEffect-1
If LeftNudgeEffect = 0 then LeftNudgeTimer.Enabled = False
End Sub


As far as the rom goes, that timer doesn't have anything to do with it - it doesn't change a switch, it doesn't play a sound, nada.
Then if you press the right nudge key, it disables the leftnudge timer anyway and sets the delay for the left nudge counter to 0.

Take this line:
vpmNudge.DoNudge angle, (strength * (delay-LeftNudgeEffect) / delay) + RightNudgeEffect / delay
You have not set an initial value for RightNudgeEffect, but you do have a set value for delay - this will produce a divide by 0 error as 0 or null is assumed when no initial value is set. Because it calls out to an externally loaded routine, you might not even get an error message if it has one.

Just a few things to look at. Hope you can get it fixed.

[destruk]

Congrats on learning spanish btw - boton Izquierdo / left button

And I looked at the core.vbs and I got it backwards - 10 in the table script is the easiest to tilt, 1 is the hardest to tilt. For some reason it swaps the numbers around to the opposite of what they should be.

CODE

    Public Property Let Sensitivity(aSens) : cSensitivity = (10-aSens)+1 : End property

    Public Sub DoNudge(ByVal aDir, ByVal aForce)
        aDir = aDir + (Rnd-0.5)*15*aForce : aForce = (0.6+Rnd*0.8)*aForce
        Nudge aDir, aForce
        If TiltSwitch = 0 Then Exit Sub ' If no switch why care
        cCount = cCount + aForce * 1.2
        If cCount > cSensitivity + 10 Then cCount = cSensitivity + 10
        If cCount >= cSensitivity Then vpmTimer.PulseSw TiltSwitch
        NeedUpdate = True
    End sub

Anyway, with 3 being the default for most tables, and 5 being standard in the middle - 5 won't make much of a difference to being switched with 10-asens+1 - I mean it becomes 6, and 3 becomes 8 if you follow what I mean.

[epthegeek]

Finally replaced my rotated 4:3 release with this purpose built full screen version. Thing hand looks awesome Melon! Great job guys.

Now if only it wasn't kicking my ass so badly!

[flippi]

THX

[bent98]

Hi guys. I'm working on a little update, fixing all the things you've noticed, including the ball getting stuck near the bumper (sorry, I thought It was allready solved). I'll try to upload it today.

Any update on this melon?

[ArtificialEnemy]

This is a great release Melon. Thanks so much. I used to play this table at the laundrymat while waiting for clothes to wash/dry.

[gStAv]

How could I get rid of the coin door open message upon bootup with the gold rom??
Not a big deal I guess, but pretty annoying though...

[chriz]

How could I get rid of the coin door open message upon bootup with the gold rom??
Not a big deal I guess, but pretty annoying though...

hey gstav,

got a few lines for the addams table script. you have to insert it in the section after the romname. thanks to unclewilly and hacker!

CODE

' Misc. Initialization
Controller.Switch(22) = True     ' coin door closed
Controller.Switch(23) = False    ' ticket opto
Controller.Switch(24) = False    ' always closed

cheers
chris

[Dazz]

How could I get rid of the coin door open message upon bootup with the gold rom??
Not a big deal I guess, but pretty annoying though...

hey gstav,

got a few lines for the addams table script. you have to insert it in the section after the romname. thanks to unclewilly and hacker!

CODE

' Misc. Initialization
Controller.Switch(22) = True     ' coin door closed
Controller.Switch(23) = False    ' ticket opto
Controller.Switch(24) = False    ' always closed

cheers
chris

What does the Gold rom have that the rom originally used for the table doesn't?

[chriz]

hey dazz, check out http://hem.bredband....82/TAFGlist.htm

imo the gold-rom is the way it's meant to be played ;-)

cheers
chris

[destruk]

Same game, higher scoring, and a few new dmd animations. woot.

[macnods]

that rom is right for play to Addams Family gold?

-tafg_la3.zip
-tafg_la2.zip
-tafg_lx3.zip
-tafg_h3.zip

Cheers

[gStAv]

Thanx for the script! No I can play the gold version without that message bugging me!

Who dosen´t want their favorite table in pure gold? GREED!

[bent98]

Melon any news on those fixes to the FS table?