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[jpsalas]

How to use the flasher objects without fading lamps script? Can I just turn on & off when needed? What's the code for a flasher?

 

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You can use flashobject.IsVisible = True to turn ii on and flashobject.IsVisible = False to turn it off.

[chepas]

Awesome, thanks JP!

[william]

You know what would be interesting to do on the cab versions. You know how some games will play on 9.9 or 9.21 or 9.1x or even 8.1. Could there be possibly a way to program by name what tables would play on what versions of vp you have set to play it. In other words, a script that tells vp hey I want to play this table on 8.1 etc. Cause like if you set up your cab to play under 9.9, some games play and some don't. Kind of an interesting idea. I play desktops and cabs on several setups and the desktops i usually put a suffix on the file names so i know what version to play and i just click on it and play, but in a cab that's somewhat tedious as the frontends use a master vp file for all versions of vp.

[mukuste]

You know what would be interesting to do on the cab versions. You know how some games will play on 9.9 or 9.21 or 9.1x or even 8.1. Could there be possibly a way to program by name what tables would play on what versions of vp you have set to play it. In other words, a script that tells vp hey I want to play this table on 8.1 etc. Cause like if you set up your cab to play under 9.9, some games play and some don't. Kind of an interesting idea. I play desktops and cabs on several setups and the desktops i usually put a suffix on the file names so i know what version to play and i just click on it and play, but in a cab that's somewhat tedious as the frontends use a master vp file for all versions of vp.

 

AFAIK all the popular cab frontends already have the option to assign different executables to different tables.

[ClarkKent]

One thing I still do not fully understand: Will it be possible to load VP9.9 tables into VP10 (and at least adjust physics) or will it not be possible? I just ask because in the beginning of VP10 most authors will certainly only adjust the table (mostly physics but also some design problems causing the ball to get stuck or something) and not creating it from scratch...

[fuzzel]

It is possible to load VP9 tables into VP10, but you need to adjust VP9 tables. Not only the physics but you might also have to adjust the lights. But that depends on the table. A complete recreation from scratch won't be necessary.

[boiydiego]

cant there be a program made to change the tables from vp9 to vp10  like the vpu patcher something like that ???

[fuzzel]

I don't think so.The changes in VP10 are massive and there are so many different ways tables were build, you can't expect a tool to the work for you.

[boiydiego]

thats where tools are made for lots of people gone make a mess starting to make there tables list compatible with vp10 changing this changing that etc , if all table creators will update there tables all will be fine otherwise its gone get messy..

Edited by boiydiego, 23 June 2014 - 10:41 AM.

[Sunskift]

I'm really sorry, bit I cannot see the point. Why would anybody want to run vp9 tables with vp10? It is really easy to have the front end select the best exe for each table. I don't want to be disrespectful, but have I missed anything here. Yes, it will take a wile until the majority of tables are state of the art, but this is the case in any development I'm aware of. We will have a great new version, tables will be released for this in due time. During this time, we will still have a really good (vp9.9.0) - with really good tables. I believe we should let the developers and authors the time they would like to have.

Thanks for a lot of excellent job, making this hoby a great one!

[fuzzel]

thats where tools are made for lots of people gone make a mess starting to make there tables list compatible with vp10 changing this changing that etc , if all table creators will update there tables all will be fine otherwise its gone get messy..

Well people can do this already. You can use the physicsmod and change all your tables to play with this version as long as you don't release these tables initially done by other authors. A tool that helps you porting tables from VP9 to VP10 would be nice but it's not feasible because there are so many ways/tricks building tables. Another aspect is the new physics parameters. You can't just apply a bunch of settings for each table and your done with it. VP10 will make things easier but you have to test everything carefully otherwise it won't play nice.

[boiydiego]

sunskift also was thinking the same way but dont know how long it will take a author to update his table to vp10 standard but hearing there are lots of changes its gone take long time to convert them all , for me it my take age to make vp10 but you will have only very limited tables to play with vp10 for long time , like having a porsche and dont have the keys to start it

[fuzzel]

well that's life I guess

[mukuste]

I have a (not completely comprehensive) table upgrade guide here: https://github.com/c...e-Upgrade-Guide

 

Most of the stuff is pretty trivial (changing some parameters in an easy way, renaming some script functions, etc.) and could maybe be done by a tool. Someone would have to write that tool though, it would take some effort and it could still mess up since it has to change the script. A dedicated table author could probably do all this stuff in 1-2h for one of his tables.

 

Then some parts are a bit harder, especially the changes for the new physics engine. I have it on good authority though (Uncle Willy said so) that the new physics engine makes it much easier to get good results than the old one, and with much less tweaking. So again, it shouldn't be that bad.

 

There's also the changes for the new lights; I don't know how much work that is, but I think once the new supporting script functions are written, which has to be done only once, it will be pretty easy.

 

All in all I would estimate that a table author can upgrade a table in an afternoon or so once he has some experience with the new version. That's not taking advantage of any new graphical features, so the table will look more or less like in VP9, but will benefit from the new physics. So I hope that we will see a reasonable number of VP10 tables relatively early on.

[william]

 

You know what would be interesting to do on the cab versions. You know how some games will play on 9.9 or 9.21 or 9.1x or even 8.1. Could there be possibly a way to program by name what tables would play on what versions of vp you have set to play it. In other words, a script that tells vp hey I want to play this table on 8.1 etc. Cause like if you set up your cab to play under 9.9, some games play and some don't. Kind of an interesting idea. I play desktops and cabs on several setups and the desktops i usually put a suffix on the file names so i know what version to play and i just click on it and play, but in a cab that's somewhat tedious as the frontends use a master vp file for all versions of vp.

 

AFAIK all the popular cab frontends already have the option to assign different executables to different tables.

 

Can Pinball X do this. How do you do this?

[gtxjoe]

Yes, see discussion here:  http://www.vpforums....showtopic=27822

[arngrim]

Globally on settings.exe, add a new custom system, and on game manager.exe, link the new table xml, that you have created for that specific vp version, to a new list

[kiwi]

It would be nice to have the default opacity of the ramps to 255 instead of 0, so the old alpha ramps are visible.

 

Thanks

 

Max

[mpad]

1. most people put their playfield monitor relatively low and put glass above it... in my opinion, a more realistic view could be achieved by having the playfield monitor in place of the glass, since this would mean that the screen can show everything that would be located under the glass on a real pinball table.

thank god I'm not the only one who thinks that way. I think this is the most common "mistake" when constructing a cabinet. I built mine and put the display where the glas would be, despite the fact that all pinball software supports the other case. just makes no logical sense.
I'm still hoping it will change in time as I am still to dumb to adjust tables myself
An option to easy switch between those two cases would be great.

Edited by mpad, 23 June 2014 - 07:01 PM.

[mukuste]

It would be nice to have the default opacity of the ramps to 255 instead of 0, so the old alpha ramps are visible.

 

Thanks

 

Max

 

I'm pretty sure that it is?

 

 

 

1. most people put their playfield monitor relatively low and put glass above it... in my opinion, a more realistic view could be achieved by having the playfield monitor in place of the glass, since this would mean that the screen can show everything that would be located under the glass on a real pinball table.

thank god I'm not the only one who thinks that way. I think this is the most common "mistake" when constructing a cabinet. I built mine and put the display where the glas would be, despite the fact that all pinball software supports the other case. just makes no logical sense.
I'm still hoping it will change in time as I am still to dumb to adjust tables myself
An option to easy switch between those two cases would be great.

 

 

Also Ade of the Pro Pinball people has mentioned that he considers this the best option and that TS! will use this setup, so at least in this respect you'll be in luck. But I guess you know this already, considering your avatar/favorite pinball