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Blackwater 100 (Bally 1988) (VP9.x DX9 FS 1.2.0) [VP 9.x Cabinet FS]

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#1 Sindbad

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 06:16 PM

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File Name: Blackwater 100 (Bally 1988) (VP9.x DX9 FS 1.2.0)

File Submitter: Sindbad

File Submitted: 20 Jul 2014

File Category: VP 9.x Cabinet Tables (FULL SCREEN)

Author(s): Sindbad
Manufacturer: Bally
Year: 1988
ROM: Link to ROM
Permission to MOD?: Yes, without approval


Blackwater 100 (Bally 1988) [VP9.x DX9 FS cabinet release]

This is my second table, and I hope you'll have fun with it.

The table is fast, but for me it seems realistic ... I never owned a pinball machine, so I tried to imitate the behavior by looking at Y***ube videos.

Because I had some stress when releasing "Flash Gordon", I'm careful now: All images used in this table are not stolen, I kindly asked to use them and got permission. Some of them were painted "from the scratch". I had to modify some images with - let's say - fantasy textures. So the table is not an exact copy of the original. Most of the coding was done by me. I used some "standardized" routines, that you can find nearly in all newer tables, like nudging, B2B, AR plunger, etc. These routines came from other authors and the author is named at start of the routine and also in the credits. I'm not willing to do paypal donations for any resource that is used in this table. On the other hand, any resource that is used in this table can be used (modified or unmodified) for whatever, no permission required. I'm not responsible for any damage that can be brought into a correlation with playing this table. If you think "the table s*cks", feel free to delete it from your hard drive. In this case don't send me PMs or e-mails. Authoring tables is only a hobby, and I don't hide the fact that I'm still learning, that's all.

Credits go to:
Noah Fentz: Thanks for the very good pictures
Patatrox: Thanks for the pictures and your help
UncleWilly: Thanks for the primitives template (I used the drop targets and the posts)
JPSalas: Thanks for the light routines and some images (don't remember which images - maybe bulbs?)
Noah, Koadic, destruk: Thanks for standardized routines (e.g. nudging, plunger or b2b)
Arngrim: Thanks for creating the DOF routines and the DOF definitions
All the rest of the community: Thanks for keeping this hobby alive

and ...

Shadowsclassic, dboyrecords, Naboodiver, Arngrim, Fuzzel: Thanks for all the testing, you did an amazing job!!!


The table is only a compromise. I had to "cheat" sometimes to get acceptable graphics or playable results. I'm sure that some things could be done better, but I'm still learning and I wanted to bring this table to an end.

Now check your lower flipper buttons and let's start... As I already mentioned: the table is fast. When using the original ROM (3 balls), the best strategy is to bring one of the balls directly into the upper saucer. The ball will stay there for a while, so you have to pay attention only on the two left balls. If you bring one of them into the lower right saucer, you can concentrate on one ball. You have to place exact shots for shooting the balls up the lower ramps (Highway93 and HillClimb). So don't give up, it's not impossible, HillClimb is the easier one. The configuration dialog can be activated by pressing "F6".


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#2 fuzzel

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 06:27 PM

Thanks for this panik table. Looks good, feels good, plays good :)



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Posted 20 July 2014 - 06:30 PM

I'm sorry to hear you had such a stressful experience with your first table, although I feel people deserve credit, when it comes to this VP community people should be more inclined to share freely for the greater good.  Constructive criticism okay, but people shouldn't discourage your efforts, some people are too quick to hate.

 

I enjoyed your Flash Gordon table and would like to encourage you to keep going since the VP community can always use more authors.  I will give this new one a try later on today, thanks again for your efforts!



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Posted 20 July 2014 - 06:40 PM

Thanks!

Funny and rare table 3 balls at once is crazy.  :otvclap:  :db:


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Please, if you can help me with a small contribution to update my work team and continue to make more tables I will be eternally grateful.
 

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:17 PM

Sindbad

first off, thank you, both your tables are fantastic. Don't let the negative crap from the community get you down, your doing an awesome job.. Keep up the great work. :-)

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:18 PM

i'm having a big problem with the version released, the flippers are visible but they are not collidable, the ball goes through it!



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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:29 PM

had the same problem you have to select all five flippers and enable them in the editor.  Works now never played this pin but its fun.  anyone know of a d2bs for it?



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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:29 PM

... don't know, what happened, all flippers are disabled ... I'll upload a new version in a few minutes, Sorry !!!



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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:29 PM

arngrim, it's easy to fix..

Select only layers 1,3 and 5 then
Select each flipper
To the right under colors & formatting check enabled
Run table to make sure they are working
Quit table and save
Fixed.....

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:35 PM

Nice work Sinbad thanks for the fun table and also for Flash Gordon that one brought back memories.. Owned that pin as a kid and grew up with it



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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:41 PM

I'm just uploading the new version, it takes some time until it will be available for download. If you don't want to wait, you can fix the problem via ICPjuggla's method. Once more Sorry for the confusion. I tested the table 5 minutes prior to the upload ... I don't know, what happened ...



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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:42 PM

No comment flipper problem because I thought that the vp version I'm using had disqualified me :P  

 

As ICPjuggla says.. the solution is to tick the Enabled option in the section of flippers.


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"Aprender sin pensar es inútil, pensar sin aprender es peligroso". (Confucio)

 

 

Please, if you can help me with a small contribution to update my work team and continue to make more tables I will be eternally grateful.
 

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:44 PM

ok works now thx


Edited by arngrim, 20 July 2014 - 07:52 PM.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 08:25 PM

It's no big deal Sindbad, these goings happen. Thanks for the great release. As a side not, I got a chance to play your Flash Gordon lately and IMHO it's a great first release, so much fun to play.

Remember that with the internet, there will always be a few you can't please so don't focus on those, listen to the majority who are telling you "this is great, job well done, thanks!" :)

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 08:56 PM

 anyone know of a d2bs for it?

 

 

Disregard found one and made my own media pack =)..

 

Great table thanks again



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Posted 20 July 2014 - 09:23 PM

Sindbad,
Thanks for this great table! Loads of fun and looks great! As does your flash table. Keep them coming please!

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:13 PM

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Thanks!

Great fun. Never seen this table before, really enjoying it!

Keep it up!

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:15 PM

Good looking table, I'll fire it up this evening and enjoy some games :)

 

Regarding Flash Gordon,

I don't know, maybe this is an unfavorable position but here's how I look at it:

we're all using art from graphic designers without their permission. When we use playfield scans or plastics scans or anything, none of us really have permission from the original designers. For table authors to get upset that you didn't ask permission to use their resources is a little two-faced .... do you see where I'm going with this?

 

Keep it up, and only do what you do because you enjoy it.



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Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:24 PM

Good looking table, I'll fire it up this evening and enjoy some games :)

 

Regarding Flash Gordon,

I don't know, maybe this is an unfavorable position but here's how I look at it:

we're all using art from graphic designers without their permission. When we use playfield scans or plastics scans or anything, none of us really have permission from the original designers. For table authors to get upset that you didn't ask permission to use their resources is a little two-faced .... do you see where I'm going with this?

 

Keep it up, and only do what you do because you enjoy it.

I totally agree and you make a good point here.  I think this attitude defeats the purpose of trying to preserve pinball through simulation - for example if I did some art work, and I knew it could make some ones recreation better in the name of pinball preservation of course I'd be more than happy to see them use it, just credit me for my work and it's all good.



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Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:38 PM

Hey, I didn't want to make stress and I didn't want to start a discussion. I only wanted to tell you all, that's not my intention to steel something. I had some stress with Flash Gordon, another author had a look at the coding and saw "his code" at the drop targets handling. I swear that the drop target handling was done by me, maybe we had the same idea how to handle this?

 

And now forget the things that I wrote, have fun with the table.







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