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[Herweh]

File Name: Scared Stiff (Bally 1996).directb2s
File Submitter: Herweh
File Submitted: 26 Feb 2013
File Category: dB2S Animated Backglasses
Author(s): Herweh
Backglass image provided by Aurich
Manufacturer: Bally
Year: 1996

DUAL BACKGLASS
 
directB2S backglass for the 1996 Bally table.

Backglass is a dual mode backglass (needs server 1.1 or higher).
AUTHENTIC was designed to be as authentic as possible after watching some youtube videos.
For FANTASY I've added just a few lights at the eyes of some animals and Elvira.

Backglass image and some illumination snippits provided by Aurich.
 
Thanks to Rosve for providing the Visual Studio project to me and giving me some very very helpful infos about the mech support.

Click here to download this file

[Aurich]

This is a high rez backglass, stitched together using the best images I could find (thanks to chriz99 and rosve for assets) and a brand new spider that I created from scratch since I couldn't find an acceptable one to use. This is one of my favorite tables, had a great time getting the imagery working with Herweh. Big thanks to rosve for the original B2S version, this was done with that as the inspiration.

 

Edited by Aurich, 26 February 2013 - 05:44 PM.

[Fulltilt]

Awesome work, I love this table! Thank you very much

[ollium]

Got the following error: "Script Error / Line: 46 / Oject reference not set to an instance of an object"

 

Script:

"Sub table1_Init()
    With Controller
        .GameName = cGameName
        If Err Then MsgBox "Can't start Game: " & cGameName & vbNewLine & Err.Description:Exit Sub
        .SplashInfoLine = "based on Scared Stiff (Bally 1988)" & vbNewLine & "VP91x table by JPSalas & Highrise v1.4.2"

[ArcadiusMaximus]

Wow this looks incredable ! Even has that depth of field look to it like the real machine. A++ work ! I read that with v1.1 these now work with the previos Rosev b2s tables. Can you explain the process of switching from the Rosev b2s glass to the direct.b2s glass? Thanks !

Edited by ArcadiusMaximus, 26 February 2013 - 07:54 PM.

[Aurich]

Got the following error: "Script Error / Line: 46 / Oject reference not set to an instance of an object"

 

Script:

"Sub table1_Init()
    With Controller
        .GameName = cGameName
        If Err Then MsgBox "Can't start Game: " & cGameName & vbNewLine & Err.Description:Exit Sub
        .SplashInfoLine = "based on Scared Stiff (Bally 1988)" & vbNewLine & "VP91x table by JPSalas & Highrise v1.4.2"

 

Did you make sure you upgraded to the latest version of the backglass server first? You need to have 1.1 for it to work. Herweh might know otherwise, but that's the first thing I'd verify.

Wow this looks incredable ! Even has that depth of field look to it like the real machine. A++ work !

 

Thanks, we went back and forth with several versions to try and capture that depth, so it's super gratifying that it comes across.

[ollium]

I've upgraded to the newest 1.1 backglas server...because it doesn't work with 1.0.1

That's not the problem ... btw I have this error with all other tables I've tested ... like Freefall oder Class of 1812

Edited by ollium, 26 February 2013 - 07:56 PM.

[thewool]

Ok I don't think I've ever used capitals on this forums but... THE NEW SPIDER AND BG ARE AMAZING!!!!!!!  

 

Fantastic job to you both, it has depth, clarity, the right lighting, just perfect. Also seems more responsive but maybe that was the cider   Scared Stiff is a bloomin' brilliant table. I have 3 versions on my cab (JP normal, Jimmy's GI8 and the JP's Prototype) and have added the new arachnid to all 3. Really good work, thanks for sharing this.

 

edit: I noticed the spider does not run too well in 'exe' mode.  Not that it needs it as it runs totally fine in normal mode.

 

Maximus, just comment out the vpinmame line, and send the 'launch B2S ' setting to false. That's all I did and it worked first time. be sure to make sure your file names are all consistent.

 

THANKS ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!  :)

Edited by thewool, 27 February 2013 - 12:11 AM.

[Herweh]

I've upgraded to the newest 1.1 backglas server...because it doesn't work with 1.0.1

That's not the problem ... btw I have this error with all other tables I've tested ... like Freefall oder Class of 1812

 

Fixed with server version 1.1.1

 

 

Wow this looks incredable ! Even has that depth of field look to it like the real machine. A++ work ! I read that with v1.1 these now work with the previos Rosev b2s tables. Can you explain the process of switching from the Rosev b2s glass to the direct.b2s glass? Thanks !

 

Just change the 'Set Controller' line as always (to ("B2S.Server")) and it's already working. Then there is a bit of overhead since Rosve's commands are writing into the registry but this is insignificant.

More interesting is the startup behaviour in Hyperpin. Since the table name ends with 'B2S' Hyperpin tries to start the matching "old" backglass EXE file. I did this yesterday and had two backglasses running . Removing the exe file doesn't work, then you get an error message from Hyperpin. So the best is (but I haven't tried it yesterday) rename the VP file. I.e. it is 'ScaredStiff_FS_B2S.vpt' rename it to 'ScaredStiff_B2S_FS.vpt'.

 

 

edit: I noticed the spider does not run too well in 'exe' mode.  Not that it needs it as it runs totally fine in normal mode

 

Yeah, thanks for the info, got the same info from JF. Will have a look at this. It's running fine at my cab but I'm sure this communication can be optimized a bit.

Edited by Herweh, 27 February 2013 - 12:36 AM.

[thewool]

Just meant to add a thanks to Rosve for giving birth to B2S in the first place! It has evolved in to something truly awesome...

[Pinhead22]

Looks freaking amazing!!! Great job!!

[Aurich]

Is anyone running this on a 2 screen cabinet with the grill showing? I use a real DMD so I couldn't test that, I presume it all looks fine but if anyone has suggestions be good to know.

Also I made my own chrome Bally logo for the grill since I couldn't find one I liked. If anyone wants a copy let me know, I can post it up.

[fox24]

I've upgraded to the newest 1.1 backglas server...because it doesn't work with 1.0.1

That's not the problem ... btw I have this error with all other tables I've tested ... like Freefall oder Class of 1812

 

Fixed with server version 1.1.1

 

 

Wow this looks incredable ! Even has that depth of field look to it like the real machine. A++ work ! I read that with v1.1 these now work with the previos Rosev b2s tables. Can you explain the process of switching from the Rosev b2s glass to the direct.b2s glass? Thanks !

 

Just change the 'Set Controller' line as always (to ("B2S.Server")) and it's already working. Then there is a bit of overhead since Rosve's commands are writing into the registry but this is insignificant.

More interesting is the startup behaviour in Hyperpin. Since the table name ends with 'B2S' Hyperpin tries to start the matching "old" backglass EXE file. I did this yesterday and had two backglasses running . Removing the exe file doesn't work, then you get an error message from Hyperpin. So the best is (but I haven't tried it yesterday) rename the VP file. I.e. it is 'ScaredStiff_FS_B2S.vpt' rename it to 'ScaredStiff_B2S_FS.vpt'.

 

 

I set the LaunchBackGlass "ScaredStiff_FS_B2S", false 'True=Launch bg ,  False=Don't launch bg.

On line 63 to false. Now only the new b2s launches.

Edited by fox24, 27 February 2013 - 01:45 AM.

[LoadedWeapon]

Wow I wish I could play it looks amazing...But  I sold my pincab yesterday getting ready to work on a bigger and better one...I miss it already tho 

Great job to all who helped make it happen..

[ollium]

ups .. having problems to get it run .. I totally forget to say .. amazing work you've done for this BG

[jimmyfingers]

Is anyone running this on a 2 screen cabinet with the grill showing? I use a real DMD so I couldn't test that, I presume it all looks fine but if anyone has suggestions be good to know.

Also I made my own chrome Bally logo for the grill since I couldn't find one I liked. If anyone wants a copy let me know, I can post it up.

Really nice work guys and great that it can work with the existing B2S versions by just setting the old one to false (along with the new b2s.server setting of course). Since, you ask Aurich, I run a 2 screen cabinet and it does work fine and look great.  However, I would say that the grill area is a bit tight height wise in proportion to the overall back glass / screen area.  If looking at the IPDB image for Scared Stiff's backglass it seems that grill area DMD / speaker / wood framing part at the bottom take up almost 1/3 of the total BG height.  With this version its taking up only about a quarter.  It just means that the pinMAME DMD has to be a bit more squished than it normally would and you might lose a bit of DMD real estate trying to size and sqaure off to the correct ratios.

 

It seems that maybe for this and other DMD style directb2s backglasses (for this generation of pin and others with similar proportions) that giving this grill area a little more head room would help get closer to the real BG grill to translite ratios.  This would help the 2 screen users while really not impacting the 3 screen users that much because it get's stretched out anyway when they use it.  So, maybe in future giving the grill a higher defined space in the editor / directb2s release would be ideal as the 2 screen users cannot stretch it up more into the graphic area after the fact but the 3 screen systems / users can simply stretch and push the grill off the screen regardless of how high it's boundary was defined. 

[Aurich]

It seems that maybe for this and other DMD style directb2s backglasses (for this generation of pin and others with similar proportions) that giving this grill area a little more head room would help get closer to the real BG grill to translite ratios.  This would help the 2 screen users while really not impacting the 3 screen users that much because it get's stretched out anyway when they use it.  So, maybe in future giving the grill a higher defined space in the editor / directb2s release would be ideal as the 2 screen users cannot stretch it up more into the graphic area after the fact but the 3 screen systems / users can simply stretch and push the grill off the screen regardless of how high it's boundary was defined. 

 

What resolution are you running your backglass monitor?

 

I hear your point, but I just wonder with most people seeming to have 16:10 or 16:9 monitors for the backglass it seems like you'd sacrifice an awful lot of the actual art (let alone interactive space with the spider in this case) just to fill it up with "dead" black speaker grill. 

 

One option might be to lose a bit of authenticity (we're already tossing it out the window somewhat with these aspect ratios) and cheating the DMD opening on the grill larger, so that you had more space to enlarge the pinMAME display.

 

If you could take a pic of your setup so I could see how it looks that might help.

[BFG Brutal]

I'm loving the DB2S backglasses! Having a problem with scared stiff though. I have the DB2S 1.1.1 exe, build 445 of VP9.15 and for some reason the spider doesnt show! this is the only backglass out of 6-7 that i've had an issue with. Running a 2 screen cab, backglass monitor is set at 1280x1024. Also tried running in exe mode and not exe mode but still no arachnid! any help would be great!

[Aaron James]

Yea this backglass is awesome. I have the same issue with running on .exe mode. Spider moves slower. I'd like to run in exe mode so the micro stutter of the gameplay with the light mod doesn't slow down multiball.

[Herweh]

Yea this backglass is awesome. I have the same issue with running on .exe mode. Spider moves slower. I'd like to run in exe mode so the micro stutter of the gameplay with the light mod doesn't slow down multiball.

 

I'll release a new server tonight. With this server the spider is running in EXE mode as smooth as in standard mode.