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Poll for Cab Users ONLY: Do You Use UVP Backglass?
Started By
Noah Fentz
, Oct 13 2010 09:13 PM
47 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 13 October 2010 - 09:13 PM
If you don't use a cabinet, please refrain from voting.
Share with us some of your experiences.
Thank you.
Share with us some of your experiences.
Thank you.

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#2
Posted 13 October 2010 - 09:34 PM
I voted NO.
I play on a laptop. But I´m pretty sure that even if I had a second monitor, I would not use it, as I don´t really see how it could enhance my playing experience, but eventually even distract my attention from what really matters, the silver ball!
Sorry, I didn´t pay attention to the "in your cabinet" part of the title.
I play on a laptop. But I´m pretty sure that even if I had a second monitor, I would not use it, as I don´t really see how it could enhance my playing experience, but eventually even distract my attention from what really matters, the silver ball!
Sorry, I didn´t pay attention to the "in your cabinet" part of the title.
Edited by 1234fd, 14 October 2010 - 01:01 AM.
From Brasil. Updated version of 1234fd
#3
Posted 13 October 2010 - 09:56 PM
I got UVP working for the Superman Vs Ali table and it was pretty awesome with the score actually working on the backglass of a second monitor, but it made the game stutter, so I gave it up. Hyperpin is also awesome for FS DMD tables, but my excitement for FS tables also soon diminished as I noticed too many things being out of whack, starting with the bad flipper angle and ending with an oval ball. Even FP in FS or arcade mode was exciting for me for a couple of weeks.
Now I'm back to horizontal tables, playing in a proportionately correct widescreen version of the table and this is currently exciting to me.
I'm sure I'll be overly excited if/when VP supports moving reels and textboxes to a second monitor.
[EDIT] I didn't see the "in your Cabinet?" part of the poll, you edited it after I started my post.... Disregard or delete my post if you want.
Now I'm back to horizontal tables, playing in a proportionately correct widescreen version of the table and this is currently exciting to me.
I'm sure I'll be overly excited if/when VP supports moving reels and textboxes to a second monitor.
[EDIT] I didn't see the "in your Cabinet?" part of the poll, you edited it after I started my post.... Disregard or delete my post if you want.
Edited by Bob5453, 13 October 2010 - 10:01 PM.

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#4
Posted 13 October 2010 - 10:14 PM
Yeah, sorry about that.
The poll always said ... "What Percent of CAB USERS Use UVP?", but I figured I better be more specific everywhere else.
I still liked reading your story.
The poll always said ... "What Percent of CAB USERS Use UVP?", but I figured I better be more specific everywhere else.
I still liked reading your story.

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#8
Posted 14 October 2010 - 02:12 AM
While I don't have a cab per-se, I do have a dedicated two-screen setup on a monitor stand with a widescreen monitor for the playfield, and a 4x3 monitor right above it for the backglass. I use a UVP as long as it doesn't kill the table performance too much. Sometimes I try to make my own UVP with 'static' lights and just normal score displays to improve the performance and this helps, sometimes. Otherwise I switch to a static backglass.
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#10
Posted 14 October 2010 - 07:38 AM
I voted no, but it's a matter of not even trying it yet.
I get no stutter on any table, even the most demanding (except the notorious BBB Monopoly), so I'll give it a shot.
My cab is currently undergoing sanding, painting, and the finishing touches.
I get no stutter on any table, even the most demanding (except the notorious BBB Monopoly), so I'll give it a shot.
My cab is currently undergoing sanding, painting, and the finishing touches.

My Photobucket Resources
Whether You Believe You Can, Or You Can't, You Are Right." - Henry Ford
The future of pinball lives, it just needs to be nurtured!
If you're here to stab me in the back, you're going to have to get in line.
#11
Posted 14 October 2010 - 01:18 PM
That's a definite 'Yes' .. on all Tables using UVP .. no problems whatsoever .. it adds SO MUCH gameplay you can not imagine!
If you go direction 'FS / Cabinet' you want an 'end-result' as close to the real thing as possible so, my opinion, you can't do any different than using the UltraVPServer
to add ROM controlled Backglass activity to your setup ..
Thanks again to Manofwar for providing us the UVP technology!
Cheers,
FD.
If you go direction 'FS / Cabinet' you want an 'end-result' as close to the real thing as possible so, my opinion, you can't do any different than using the UltraVPServer
to add ROM controlled Backglass activity to your setup ..
Thanks again to Manofwar for providing us the UVP technology!
Cheers,
FD.
'Flying Dutchman'
In need for a Backglass or 'Active Backglass / UVP' please 'click' on below and visit the complete revised website at:
In need for a Backglass or 'Active Backglass / UVP' please 'click' on below and visit the complete revised website at:
#12
Posted 18 October 2010 - 10:44 AM
Its a yes for me.
Am only still playing with setting up , but definitely the way to go from what i have seen.
Seems to run good, now to build a beefed up system.
Thanks flying dutchman and manofwar.
Am only still playing with setting up , but definitely the way to go from what i have seen.
Seems to run good, now to build a beefed up system.
Thanks flying dutchman and manofwar.
#14
Posted 18 October 2010 - 06:38 PM
I voted YES!
Thanks to manofwar for this must-have addon.
unfortunately uvp causes a little slowdown on some tables, so I use it only on a few tables at the moment.
maybe there is an stutterfree version one day or maybe it will be integrated in vp? this would be so awesome! I think the main reason for stutter are the different programs running at the same time: vp, hp, uvp, flash and so on.
unfortunately uvp causes a little slowdown on some tables, so I use it only on a few tables at the moment.
maybe there is an stutterfree version one day or maybe it will be integrated in vp? this would be so awesome! I think the main reason for stutter are the different programs running at the same time: vp, hp, uvp, flash and so on.
cheers
Chris
#15
Posted 18 October 2010 - 11:43 PM
I use UVPs on tables with roms, and pinserver on tables without roms. I get some stutter when using certain UVPs with a lot of flashing activity. The stuttering normally happens once when I first play the table, after that it is fine unless I close it in the editor. The stuttering will happen when certain target is hit. A good example is in MB when the ball hits the table at Franks feet, the table will stutter once then stop. I guess that there are lights on the UVP that flash when that target is hit. I have made some of my own UVPs with less flashing, which has helped the stuttering.
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#16
Posted 19 October 2010 - 08:18 PM
QUOTE (moogster66 @ Oct 18 2010, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I use UVPs on tables with roms, and pinserver on tables without roms. I get some stutter when using certain UVPs with a lot of flashing activity. The stuttering normally happens once when I first play the table, after that it is fine unless I close it in the editor. The stuttering will happen when certain target is hit. A good example is in MB when the ball hits the table at Franks feet, the table will stutter once then stop. I guess that there are lights on the UVP that flash when that target is hit. I have made some of my own UVPs with less flashing, which has helped the stuttering.
I voted YES
However I do find that on some tables its best to just have a static backglass, some times the UVP"Animated" backglass just slows down the table to an unplayable state.
Maybe I will experiment with overclocking my system and upgrade the DMD/Backglass video card this weekend and see how if that helps any. I did find that using Set Affinity II helped with speeding up some tables as it allowed me to give VP dedicated access to 3 of the 4 cores on my cpu
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#17
Posted 19 October 2010 - 08:34 PM
Yes, I'm only trying to use the ones for three screens though. They really eat up the video card processing speed though.
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Past: IJ, TSPP (2), FT (2), EATPM (2), RS, SG, NGG, TZ, JD, R&B, JB, WW, Hurricane, SST, CJ, PM, STTNG, GnR, WCS94, CFTBL, TFTC, MB, JP, MM, TOTAN, SS, TAF, FS, Congo, WH2O, BR, BoP, PZ, BSD, JM, HUO 24, MSF, HUO RBION, FGY, Monopoly, Freddy, T2, BF, HUO SM, RFM
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#18
Posted 08 November 2010 - 04:29 PM
I use UVP for all non DMD tables and it works great, but it does cause ball stutter. I would be so happy if you guys can intergrate it into VP so it would be one less resource running at the same time. I think the previous version of UVP ran better then the last one where you added spiderman support. Something funky must be going on with the code. Please keep up the good work and let us know if intergration into VP is something you guys are working on.
#19
Posted 08 November 2010 - 04:34 PM
QUOTE (bent98 @ Nov 8 2010, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I use UVP for all non DMD tables and it works great, but it does cause ball stutter. I would be so happy if you guys can intergrate it into VP so it would be one less resource running at the same time. I think the previous version of UVP ran better then the last one where you added spiderman support. Something funky must be going on with the code. Please keep up the good work and let us know if intergration into VP is something you guys are working on.
The last I heard was from ManofWar a few months ago, stating that we should see something soon.
I wish there was a way for us to at least know if any progress is being made. I know that ManofWar was having some issues with 2 screens, but maybe if the Dev team was a little bit more transparent, others might be able to help.
#20
Posted 08 November 2010 - 06:09 PM
QUOTE (Rawd @ Nov 8 2010, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (bent98 @ Nov 8 2010, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I use UVP for all non DMD tables and it works great, but it does cause ball stutter. I would be so happy if you guys can intergrate it into VP so it would be one less resource running at the same time. I think the previous version of UVP ran better then the last one where you added spiderman support. Something funky must be going on with the code. Please keep up the good work and let us know if intergration into VP is something you guys are working on.
The last I heard was from ManofWar a few months ago, stating that we should see something soon.
I wish there was a way for us to at least know if any progress is being made. I know that ManofWar was having some issues with 2 screens, but maybe if the Dev team was a little bit more transparent, others might be able to help.
This is the link to the latest source code update:
Visual Pinball @ sourceforge
Simply click on the little black "back" arrow to see all of the previous release notes per code publish.
Best Regards,
Todd.
[proud owner of a Williams Solar Fire]
- It's called "The American Dream" because you have to be asleep to believe it.
George Carlin
- Truly great madness cannot be achieved without significant intelligence.
Henrik Tikkanen
- "Reality check, Michelle, Talk about composure, Total lack of. He's a man-- About-- 12 Feet Tall--"
Carrie Kelly
- It's called "The American Dream" because you have to be asleep to believe it.
George Carlin
- Truly great madness cannot be achieved without significant intelligence.
Henrik Tikkanen
- "Reality check, Michelle, Talk about composure, Total lack of. He's a man-- About-- 12 Feet Tall--"
Carrie Kelly



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