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[jgardiner1976]

Hi everybody.  I'm tryin gto calibrate my tilt settings in VPX.  I have changed them but as soon as I open the preferences again, the tilit sensitivty doesn't show the change.  I'm running with administrator on and have closed out the program and restarted after the change.  Still no go. Any suggestions. Thanks in advance.

 

Joe

[digitalarts]

No VPX related program (VPX itself, Vpinmame, DOF, FlexDMD, Freezy ...) needs to run with administrator rights!

[jgardiner1976]

Thanks for the quick reply.  Ok, I turned that off.  The setting still will not seem to take.  I adjust the tilt sensitivity number, hit ok.  Open it up again it is still the original number. So frustrating.  Currently can't tilt because the sensitivity isn't high enough.

[Tesla]

Mine saves fine in VPX v10.7.2 . Using 175% IIRC.

 

Is this a new setup of a Pinscaped KL25Z Accelerometer (there is a procedure, and various settings in various places) ...  or was it working before?

[jgardiner1976]

Thanks enthusiast.  It is a pinscape accelermoter, but not new.  I've been building, twekaing, and playing for a couple years now on it.  It is set in VPX at sensitivity setting 1000, which is too low currently to cause a tilt.  I had changed the vaule to 3000 at one point but that was too much, 1000 is too low and now I can't seem to adjust it to a new number.  I went to the pinscape configure program, but didn't see any settings there for the tilt.  Thanks for your help everyone I really appreciate it and am open to any suggestions.

[Tesla]

Thanks enthusiast.  It is a pinscape accelermoter, but not new.  I've been building, twekaing, and playing for a couple years now on it.  It is set in VPX at sensitivity setting 1000, which is too low currently to cause a tilt.  I had changed the vaule to 3000 at one point but that was too much, 1000 is too low and now I can't seem to adjust it to a new number.  I went to the pinscape configure program, but didn't see any settings there for the tilt.  Thanks for your help everyone I really appreciate it and am open to any suggestions.

 

That sounds pretty high.

 

Is nudge working? There is a whole section in Pinscape Setup software for Nudge/Tilt.

 

http://www.mjrnet.or...de.php?sid=tilt

 

I thought how much frequency and intensity of nudge equals a full-tilt was determined by the VPX table's programming.

Edited by Tesla, 13 April 2023 - 05:51 PM.

[jgardiner1976]

Ya, nudging works great.  I got that dialed in.  I just can't get vpx to acknowledge any tilt sensitivity inputs.  I also am pretty sure I explored the plunger/nudge ptions in pinscape.  I didn't see anything in there specific to the tilt sensitivity though.  Thanks for all your suggestions everyone. Anything else I can try?

[xenonph]

Ya, nudging works great.  I got that dialed in.  I just can't get vpx to acknowledge any tilt sensitivity inputs.  I also am pretty sure I explored the plunger/nudge ptions in pinscape.  I didn't see anything in there specific to the tilt sensitivity though.  Thanks for all your suggestions everyone. Anything else I can try?

 

 

Try going into your scripts folder, and open core.vbs file with notepad. (Right click on it, and select Open With, and then select Notepad)

About halfway down the page, you will see a nudge section.

You will see a mSensitivity = 5. Try adjusting that number and see if it helps you.

If it doesn't, you can always set it back to =5.

[jgardiner1976]

Thanks Xenonph for the suggestion.  I changed it (even had it as high as 20) the ball nudges all over the place but even that tweak doesn't cause a tilt. It's like it just won't tilt anymore.

[jgardiner1976]

So i realized why it wasn't saving my tilt sensitivity.  I was trying to put a value in larger than 1000 and 1000 is the maximum, so it wou;dn't recogzie it and defaulted back to 1000.  I have set it back to 800.  I still have no tilt.  The ball nudges exactly as I want though.  I went through some forums and documentation and saw that I was suppose to rename a scripts vbs filr to NudgePlugin from NudgePlugIn_mjrAccelAndTilt.  I renamed it but, that hasn't done anything (am I suppose to drop it in the main root folder?).  I also checked that by hitting the T kep while in play activated a tilt and it does.  

 

I appreciate the help so far.  If anyone else has anysuggestions I'd love to hear them.  I do not like the though of playing pinball without the tilt.  Thanks!

[Tesla]

Your thread make me curious so I checked my settings.

In VPX/Prefs/Keys

My Tilt Sensitivity is set to 400, but it's not even check/enabled.

 

Analog nudge on my Pinscaped (standalone) KL25Z works fine at X/Y Max = 100 and X/Y Gain = 175%.

 

On any VPX Table I've tried ... if I nudge too many times consecutively, the Table Tilts. I can't image a scenario where I would want anything different as (IIRC, but it's been a while) that is how it works on a physical pinball machine.

Edited by Tesla, 24 April 2023 - 06:10 PM.

[jgardiner1976]

Thanks Tesla.  I just tried adjusting my x/y values and gain according to yours.  I also tried checking and unchecking tilt sensitivity.  I still kept it set at 800.  The ball nudges great, seems pretty realistic, but no matter how hard io shake it, it still won't tilt.  Is ther some setting I could have accidently turned on and off and just not seeing?  The tilt use to work on this.  I did upgrade to the newest vpx version like a week ago, but don't know how that would have affected it.  I must have done something real dumb.  Banging my head against the wall here.  I totally am appreciating the recommendations and willing to try them all.  Keep them coming VP community!!

[fhjui]

ok, a little bit strange. yes, the max value for tilt-sensitivity is 1000. If you need a higher value, you can change it in the registry (HKCU\SOFTWARE\Visual Pinball\VP10\Player\TiltSensitivity), and TiltSenseValue. They are both equal

Or you can take the "Nudge Test and Calibration.vpx" where you can adjust higher values.

But the examination of the tilts is part of the table code, not all tables have that implemented. "Attack from Mars 3.0." is one tabe for testing. The nudge test table has no tilt exam. implemented.

 

If nothing helps, you can try to make a kind of "reset" for VPX by deleting the hive with the config-values in the registry. (HKCU\SOFTWARE\Visual Pinball\VP10)

But make screenshots of every config screen and export this hive as reg-file and text-file before deleting something.

At first you must close VPX.

When VPX is started again, it recreates the hive and you must reenter the configuration values from the screenshots.

Perhaps that eliminates the error.

Edited by fhjui, 24 April 2023 - 10:17 PM.

[Tesla]

 

But the examination of the tilts is part of the table code, 

 

Thanks for verifying that. That's what I thought.

[jgardiner1976]

Thanks fhjui for the suggestion.  I changed the tilt sensitivity options in the registry as suggested.  I changed it to 800 (its was set at 320).  It didn't make a difference.  As far as your second suggestion went, I don't think I feel confident enough, nor do I think I undderstand exactly the steps listed out here to attempt that.  I'm not often getting into my registries, it's amazing I even bulit this pincab to be honest, lol.  

 

My understanding is that if I delete the vpx10 root of the registry that it will repopulate it the next time I start up VPX.  I saw hundreds of subfiles underneath the root, so if you meant scrreenshotng those, then I don't know If I could ever find enough time to do that.  Is that what you meant?  Again, not used to getting into my registry.

 

Any clearer steps and I might give it a go (worried I'm going to mess the whole think up and not be able to play it at all, lol). If anyone else has anythoughts I'm all ears.  Thanks!