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#1 pharaoh

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 06:50 PM

Ive tried a couple of weeks ago on the FP Forums to get a response to this problem. no joy
For the sake of Zeus's butt**** what is the magic spell or key combo to make the backglass
display on the second monitor. All my settings in FP prefs video/rendering options seem right for this to work.
I would appreciate some help if possible.
thanks - pharaoh

my specs:
Monitor 1: Acer [20" LCD] display 1
Monitor 2: X2Gen [18" LCD] display 2
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium /w 4GB memory
CPU Type: DualCore AMD Athlon II X2 215, 2700 MHz (13.5 x 200)
Graphics Card: NVidia Geforce 9800 GT 1GB






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Posted 30 December 2009 - 02:50 AM

I have only ever done this in arcaderender mode, but I am sure that your settings should work....

In windows, you should have 'extend desktop to this monitor' selected for monitor #2. In the drawing, make sure that your playfield monitor (#1) is on the left, and the backglass monitor (#2) is on the right.

Also make sure that your playfield (#1) is plugged into DVI-1 and the backglass (#2) is plugged into your DVI-2 output.

Other than that, I can't think of anything you might have wrong.

Edited by Rawd, 30 December 2009 - 02:51 AM.


 


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Posted 04 January 2010 - 11:52 PM

its possible but not likely when it loaded it loaded the backglass offscreen so you have to move it with the resize buttons , do these steps if you think that is the case

Pressing Scroll-Lock will allow you to adjust (scroll and resize) the display so you can fill it with the backbox. This will bring up a adjustment menu (as pictured below) which allows you to adjust the position of the graphical display, You do this with with the keypad keys 4/6 (scroll left/right), 8/2 (scroll up and down) . The currently adjustable setting is highlighted in RED. You can change between the adjustments by using Page Up and Page Down.



When you have the backbox displaying how you would like then you will have to save the table (when returned to the editor) for the settings to be saved so they can be used the next time you run this table. Pressing Scroll-Lock again will exit the adjustment mode. When in adjustment mode the translate and scale positions are displayed on the second monitor.



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Posted 05 January 2010 - 01:35 AM

QUOTE (Hoverpickle @ Jan 4 2010, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
its possible but not likely when it loaded it loaded the backglass offscreen so you have to move it with the resize buttons , do these steps if you think that is the case

Pressing Scroll-Lock will allow you to adjust (scroll and resize) the display so you can fill it with the backbox. This will bring up a adjustment menu (as pictured below) which allows you to adjust the position of the graphical display, You do this with with the keypad keys 4/6 (scroll left/right), 8/2 (scroll up and down) . The currently adjustable setting is highlighted in RED. You can change between the adjustments by using Page Up and Page Down.



When you have the backbox displaying how you would like then you will have to save the table (when returned to the editor) for the settings to be saved so they can be used the next time you run this table. Pressing Scroll-Lock again will exit the adjustment mode. When in adjustment mode the translate and scale positions are displayed on the second monitor.


nope i tried that - im not running arcade mode right now either.
i was able to get the backglass to display a couple of times by pressing a confusing
sequence of alt tab - let go of a certain button. but it was hard to duplicate and remember
the key presses that brought it to screen. i wonder if its my x2gen monitor. ugh
bummer


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Posted 07 January 2010 - 04:23 PM

I swapped/upgraded my video card from a 9500 GT w/1Gb ram to a GT240 w/1Gb ram and I'm having the same problem. All my FP tables already had the second monitor setup, re-sized, re-positioned with /arcaderender in the Future Pinball shortcut. Now, none of them display the backglass image on the second monitor. I'll try uninstalling FuturePinball tonight and see if re-installing it solves the problem. (Maybe there is something saved in a settings file or the registry that is not compatible with the new video card/drivers)


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Posted 07 January 2010 - 04:29 PM

Default camera = Fixed view
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Posted 07 January 2010 - 11:11 PM

Fixed view = not a fix.

Going to uninstall and report back later.


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Posted 07 January 2010 - 11:15 PM

Only way I know of to show on second monitor is with arcader render mode. When in arcade render mode you can adjust backglass to size you want also the table you need to adjust to fill the screen. When you have them adjusted how you like them save the table otherwise the settings will be lost and you will need to adjust again.

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 11:38 PM

QUOTE (lonnie @ Jan 7 2010, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Only way I know of to show on second monitor is with arcader render mode. When in arcade render mode you can adjust backglass to size you want also the table you need to adjust to fill the screen. When you have them adjusted how you like them save the table otherwise the settings will be lost and you will need to adjust again.

Lonnie


Lonnie - ive tried that - just tried it one more time
turned arcade mode on with /ArcadeRender on the shortcut
then
scroll lock - page UP/DN numpad keys - just wont show
i num padded it with 8 2 4 6 all over the place thinking it was just way
out of range. hmm

all i get is a white screen up there - im about to give up
as i remember it did work in win xp when i had a dual boot /w win xp
but i have win 7 now with no dual boot and im not going back to
win xp. if theres a magic formula im not there yet:)
thanks for the help
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 01:42 AM

I only use with windows xp pro. That may be problem. Might also check monitor position. I put table monitor number 1 rotated on bottom and then the back glass monitor on top not rotated in video card settings. Might try that make sure monitors are spanned. Other than that not sure what issue could be. I also have my table monitor using dvi to hdmi and the backglass monitor is dvi to vga adapter to monitor.

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QUOTE (pharaoh @ Jan 7 2010, 06:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (lonnie @ Jan 7 2010, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Only way I know of to show on second monitor is with arcader render mode. When in arcade render mode you can adjust backglass to size you want also the table you need to adjust to fill the screen. When you have them adjusted how you like them save the table otherwise the settings will be lost and you will need to adjust again.

Lonnie


Lonnie - ive tried that - just tried it one more time
turned arcade mode on with /ArcadeRender on the shortcut
then
scroll lock - page UP/DN numpad keys - just wont show
i num padded it with 8 2 4 6 all over the place thinking it was just way
out of range. hmm

all i get is a white screen up there - im about to give up
as i remember it did work in win xp when i had a dual boot /w win xp
but i have win 7 now with no dual boot and im not going back to
win xp. if theres a magic formula im not there yet:)
thanks for the help



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Posted 20 January 2010 - 02:12 AM

are you running fp in vista service pack 2 mode with administration rights?

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 04:01 AM

I remember having trouble with a lot of FP tables when I installed FP on my new computer (was running Vista at first, now running Win7), where I just copied the FP table files from the old computer (running fine on XP) to the new computer.

I re-downloaded the table zips, and re-configured the table (but I am using arcaderender), and the problems went away.



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Posted 23 January 2010 - 02:09 PM

Pharaoh, I don't think it's important, but your display1 have to be set as widescreen.

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 04:11 AM

Any fixes to list on this guys? I was trying to run the backglass off a second vid card but was having problems with the scores not displaying. So I thought I'd give running the backglass off the 2nd spot on my gtx 260 a shot and now I'm getting the white screen.


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Posted 25 January 2010 - 04:40 AM

I did find that if I used Nvidia's control panel to rotate the playfield monitor, everything works, with two monitors running on one card and two monitors running on two different cards. However, there is a HUGE hit to the rendering speed. I went from 140fps on Star Trek to 44fps!

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 01:05 AM

Pharoah, are you running Windows 7?

In Windows 7 64 bit, the only way I can get the backglass to display on my second monitor is to run the playfield in Windowed mode instead of full screen.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 01:18 AM

QUOTE (bbastyr @ Jan 26 2010, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pharoah, are you running Windows 7?

In Windows 7 64 bit, the only way I can get the backglass to display on my second monitor is to run the playfield in Windowed mode instead of full screen.


Thanks bbastyr - That did it!

Edited by pharaoh, 27 January 2010 - 01:32 AM.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 02:04 AM

I just rolled back to driver 191.07 and can run FP in full screen mode with backglass on second monitor just fine.