22 replies to this topic

[GrayGhost]

anybody know how to re-enable ActiveX on windows 10. B2S controller and B2S back glass's will not work.

[wiesshund]

ActiveX?

Isn't that for IE11?

 

What error are you getting?

[GrayGhost]

If I try to load any table that uses Controller the table will fail, with "object required controller"

If I run any table with B2S back glass the back glass will not load." ActiveX Component can't creat object: 'B2SServer'

 

Microshaft has deemed ActiveX a security risk for Windows 10. And did not consider the amount of programs that need ActiveX.  NOT! happy 

[wiesshund]

MS didnt remove activeX, it is still sitting right there.

 

When did this problem begin, and what changed before it began?

 

open IE11 and go to this website Testing, please wait... (cyscape.com)

when it runs the test, scroll down to broswer security, see what it says about activeX

 

And yes, it must be IE11 you open, not edge or chrome

Edited by wiesshund, 29 November 2020 - 11:33 PM.

[GrayGhost]

SessionCookies:

True

PersistentCookies:

True

JavaScriptEnabled:

True

JavaEnabled:

Enabled

ActiveXEnabled:

True

TLSVersion:

1.2

TLSVersionMax:

1.2

SSL:

True

SSLActive:

False

SSLKeySize:

256 bits

SSLEnabled:

True

Firewall:

False

OpenPorts:

80, 1755, 554 are open ports

PopupsBlocked:

Not tested

ImagesEnabled:

True

HighSecurity:

False

 

 

That is the result of the test on browser security.
 
So, why is Visual Pin X , B2S server and back glass designer complaining about ActiveX. I did do an install of VPX.7 beta could that be the problem everything was working fine until the last windows 10 update.

Edited by GrayGhost, 30 November 2020 - 07:31 AM.

[wiesshund]

should not be an issue with vpx 10.7, i have both it and 10.6.1 running, out of the same folder even

 

Is by any chance your antivirus blocking b2sserver?
Or could it have possibly have gotten unregistered?

 

B2SBackglassServerRegisterApp.exe will re-register it

 

VPX itself does not use activeX i do not think
i think that only comes up when it tries to run a backglass

 

b2s designer, i am not sure.
Does it error when just opening it, or when trying to test a backglass?

I am not sure at what point it may reach out for b2sserver, i thought it was only during the test part?

 

Someone had this issue in 2019, i found this thread
Losing My mind! b2s 'Cannot Create ActiveX Component' - Frontends and Addons - VPForums.org

He fixed it by re-running the VPX installer
Maybe there is an activeX control that b2s server uses, that got unregistered, that the VPX installer installs and registers

If worth a shot, if you are worried about your present setup, just rename your visual pinball folder temporarily
vpx-back, or something

After the installer is done, go into the vpx-back\tables folder and double click a a table with a backglass
If it runs fine, exit vpx, rename the new install folder to like vpx-test, rename your folder back to what ever it is you normally have it as, mine is just VPX
Now go ahead and try running one of your tables again, if it works, you can delete the vpx-test folder

[samballuga2]

Go to w7. W10 can do you any tricks.

[wiesshund]

Go to w7. W10 can do you any tricks.

 

Not really a fair assessment

I've 7 PC's sitting in reach of me
All are windows 10
Have not really had any OS related issues with any of them

[GrayGhost]

Here are the things I tried so far. Uninstalled VPX and reinstall, uninstall B2S and reinstall, uninstall Windows 10 updates, except KB4579311 it fails to uninstall with error. I have even uninstalled visual studio 2019. So far no joy.

[Rajo Joey]

It looks like a problem with VPinMame.
Do you have run the setup.exe in the VPinMame folder?
Also take a look that .vbs files are only in the script-folder and you have a!ways the newest version there. You can download them with the last 10.7 vpx. Delete all files in the script-folder and copy and past the new ones there.

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[unclewilly]

Yesh sounds like pinmame and b2s were not setup using the installer

[samballuga2]

1. Windows 8 (346 votes [8.99%])

    

2. Windows 7 (1921 votes [49.92%])

    

3. Windows Vista (61 votes [1.59%])

    

4. Windows XP (528 votes [13.72%])

    

5. Windows ME, 98 or 95 (7 votes [0.18%])

    

6. Windows NT or 2000 (1 votes [0.03%])

    

7. Windows 10 (984 votes [25.57%])

    

Edited by samballuga2, 03 December 2020 - 10:53 AM.

[samballuga2]

The problem is that the W10 controls every last aspect of everything.

 

Many do not know, for example, that the old games that work in W7, Titan Chess, for example ... in W10 they simply do not work. It does not give notice of why or any clue.

 

The only valid entry games are paid games and some are very simple. Best of all, by researching, you can find a list of programs that can run without problems. Let's say "authorized". I would not be able to say how to access it because I did it once at the cost of many hours and I ended up disgusted. Without asking W10, start to view news, images, covert advertising ... At the support software level, there is an obsession to avoid hackers or the like.

 

Therefore, many functions are capped and if you are not an expert you can go crazy. The saddest thing is that there is no method or system to avoid a hack.

 

If I could, I would go back to XP. Hurt 64X It is an opinion.

 

Cheers

[Rajo Joey]

I don't know, what's your problem.

The survey is very old. Most people today work with Win10. Windows 8 is the worst software MS created near Win ME.

I use Win10 for years and don't have a problem. All tables work fine. If the installation is correct, all works.

[samballuga2]

Do you develop and program or play with something that is already done?

 

The statistics are on the main page of the web ...

 

W8 is not the same as W7

 

W10 was established less than 4 years ago.

 

They tried to make it work for mobiles but it failed miserably.

 

Shortly after it appeared, Intel announced that with W10 there was a "serious" security problem.

They made a patch that already warned that 43% of the cpu was eaten ..

 

Little examples:

 

"Another consequence of Windows 10 being free is that by default the OS takes a minimum part of the resources for its own benefit. Now updates are not only downloaded from Microsoft's servers, but also from computer computers. own users, through P2P. If they have downloaded an update, Windows 10 shares it with other users through your Internet connection. The bandwidth is minimal and theoretically only occurs when you do not use the Internet, but effectively, you are allocating your resources to Windows. "

 

"If you install Windows 10 with the default settings, Cortana will record your location, contacts, messages, the websites you visit, the places where you go. It will listen through the microphone and even if you only want to search for a file on your hard drive, it will Over the Internet, with Bing. Even if you disable Cortana and Bing, personal information will still be sent over the Internet "

 

Cheers

[wiesshund]

Do you develop and program or play with something that is already done?

 

Actually, I do.

 

 

 

"Another consequence of Windows 10 being free is that by default the OS takes a minimum part of the resources for its own benefit. 

That would be with ANY OS, they tend to not run otherwise.

 

 

Now updates are not only downloaded from Microsoft's servers, but also from computer computers. own users, through P2P. If they have downloaded an update, Windows 10 shares it with other users through your Internet connection. The bandwidth is minimal and theoretically only occurs when you do not use the Internet, but effectively, you are allocating your resources to Windows. "

Only if you choose to.
You can choose to use P2P via the whole internet
You can choose to use P2P only within your private LAN PCs
And you can choose not to use P2P at all.
And you can also set data limits on it, if you are choosing to do P2P via the internet
The LAN P2P is great though, let 1 PC be the download mule and update 1st, then the others can leach at least a good part of the updates
from it, at least up to the point that they diverge in some aspect of hardware, or software related to the updates.
Cant pull amd hardware related updates off an intel mule, of office updates from a pc not running office obviously.

Unfortunately, it takes the "Only when your not using the internet" to an annoying level, as if you simply hint at a packet of data being created
it stops using the P2P, even the local LAN P2P, and wont resume it for some time.
And that goes for both the sender and the receiver, so if you want it to function very well, you sort of need to tell it to do updates
and then walk away and leave things alone until it finishes.

And it is not unique in making use of distributed updates
A good number of popular MMO's update in a similar manner and have for quite some time.

 

 

 

"If you install Windows 10 with the default settings, Cortana will record your location, contacts, messages, the websites you visit, the places where you go. It will listen through the microphone and even if you only want to search for a file on your hard drive, it will Over the Internet, with Bing. Even if you disable Cortana and Bing, personal information will still be sent over the Internet "

 

If you tell it to, it asks you when you are setting it up after install is finished.
Have you actually installed and set up windows 10, or just reading this from someone else?

Also, no personal info is sent, generic info is, no different than how chrome does it.
It is used for targeted advertising and other things, kind of like how google suggests things to read in the google app on an android device.

You can opt out of it, your just going to get generic advertising then
Everything is advertising now days, it's how you get free software.

And it only pertains to web browsing related tasks
It doesnt sit there and watch what you are typing in notepad etc

No one is receiving your name address telephone number tax id and bank account routing number.

As for Cortana, that is kind of the entire point.
How can i ask her to find me directions to someplace if she does not know where i am?
How do i ask her to send a message to Bob if she does not know who the hell Bob is nor how to direct a message to him?
She is no different than Siri or Google assistant or any similar app, and you dont have to use Cortana.

And if you are looking for a file on your PC, Cortana is not exactly the best tool for it anyways.

 

 

They tried to make it work for mobiles but it failed miserably.

 

I think failed is a matter of opinion
I would not say it failed in a sense of functionality
But there is not always a market for everything
And windows phones, be it 7, 8 or 10, just never achieved enough market share to spur a lot of further development.

It worked quite well on the Surface RT tablets, but not enough consumer demand nor 3rd party interest.

And what does any of this have to do with the OP's issue?
Has any of this been of any help to him?

Here are the things I tried so far. Uninstalled VPX and reinstall, uninstall B2S and reinstall, uninstall Windows 10 updates, except KB4579311 it fails to uninstall with error. I have even uninstalled visual studio 2019. So far no joy.

 

Did you ever resolve this?
The error you are getting seems to stem not from ActiveX being disabled
but from the object wanting to be initialized not being registered

I am not quite sure how to unregister b2s or pinmame, but i can unregister flexDMD
and if i unregister it, and then run a tablescript that wants to create a flexDMD object, it causes the exact same error you are getting
aside from the error referring to flexDMD

[samballuga2]

In my opinion, a personal computer should work like a toaster.

 

Whether you have to be an expert to do or stop doing certain things is no longer relevant.

 

I am used to expressing what I think, which is the result of a few years of experience in computing.

 

 

"No one is receiving your name address telephone number tax id and bank account routing number".

Just missing !!

 

For my part I could easily refute a few things but I will leave it here.

 

Greetings and apologies

[wiesshund]

In my opinion, a personal computer should work like a toaster.

 

Some already work like this

[samballuga2]

The one in the photo must wear w10. The toast is burned ...

[GrayGhost]

 

Do you develop and program or play with something that is already done?

 

Actually, I do.

 

 

 

"Another consequence of Windows 10 being free is that by default the OS takes a minimum part of the resources for its own benefit. 

That would be with ANY OS, they tend to not run otherwise.

 

 

Now updates are not only downloaded from Microsoft's servers, but also from computer computers. own users, through P2P. If they have downloaded an update, Windows 10 shares it with other users through your Internet connection. The bandwidth is minimal and theoretically only occurs when you do not use the Internet, but effectively, you are allocating your resources to Windows. "

Only if you choose to.
You can choose to use P2P via the whole internet
You can choose to use P2P only within your private LAN PCs
And you can choose not to use P2P at all.
And you can also set data limits on it, if you are choosing to do P2P via the internet
The LAN P2P is great though, let 1 PC be the download mule and update 1st, then the others can leach at least a good part of the updates
from it, at least up to the point that they diverge in some aspect of hardware, or software related to the updates.
Cant pull amd hardware related updates off an intel mule, of office updates from a pc not running office obviously.

Unfortunately, it takes the "Only when your not using the internet" to an annoying level, as if you simply hint at a packet of data being created
it stops using the P2P, even the local LAN P2P, and wont resume it for some time.
And that goes for both the sender and the receiver, so if you want it to function very well, you sort of need to tell it to do updates
and then walk away and leave things alone until it finishes.

And it is not unique in making use of distributed updates
A good number of popular MMO's update in a similar manner and have for quite some time.

 

 

 

"If you install Windows 10 with the default settings, Cortana will record your location, contacts, messages, the websites you visit, the places where you go. It will listen through the microphone and even if you only want to search for a file on your hard drive, it will Over the Internet, with Bing. Even if you disable Cortana and Bing, personal information will still be sent over the Internet "

 

If you tell it to, it asks you when you are setting it up after install is finished.
Have you actually installed and set up windows 10, or just reading this from someone else?

Also, no personal info is sent, generic info is, no different than how chrome does it.
It is used for targeted advertising and other things, kind of like how google suggests things to read in the google app on an android device.

You can opt out of it, your just going to get generic advertising then
Everything is advertising now days, it's how you get free software.

And it only pertains to web browsing related tasks
It doesnt sit there and watch what you are typing in notepad etc

No one is receiving your name address telephone number tax id and bank account routing number.

As for Cortana, that is kind of the entire point.
How can i ask her to find me directions to someplace if she does not know where i am?
How do i ask her to send a message to Bob if she does not know who the hell Bob is nor how to direct a message to him?
She is no different than Siri or Google assistant or any similar app, and you dont have to use Cortana.

And if you are looking for a file on your PC, Cortana is not exactly the best tool for it anyways.

 

 

They tried to make it work for mobiles but it failed miserably.

 

I think failed is a matter of opinion
I would not say it failed in a sense of functionality
But there is not always a market for everything
And windows phones, be it 7, 8 or 10, just never achieved enough market share to spur a lot of further development.

It worked quite well on the Surface RT tablets, but not enough consumer demand nor 3rd party interest.

And what does any of this have to do with the OP's issue?
Has any of this been of any help to him?

Here are the things I tried so far. Uninstalled VPX and reinstall, uninstall B2S and reinstall, uninstall Windows 10 updates, except KB4579311 it fails to uninstall with error. I have even uninstalled visual studio 2019. So far no joy.

 

Did you ever resolve this?
The error you are getting seems to stem not from ActiveX being disabled
but from the object wanting to be initialized not being registered

I am not quite sure how to unregister b2s or pinmame, but i can unregister flexDMD
and if i unregister it, and then run a tablescript that wants to create a flexDMD object, it causes the exact same error you are getting
aside from the error referring to flexDMD

 

Thanks for the help all, what I finely did was to reinstall windows 10 and re-register all on the programs used in visual pinball. Now all works as it should

Thanks again to all who posted