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[topper2k]

I'm trying to install Pinscape on a new FRDM-KL25Z board for the first time. I plugged it in with a spare USB cable and the big LED lights up and changes color when I tilt the device. The green LED near the USB port doesn't come on. I only know it exists from watching some help videos. And nothing else happens. The Pinscape config tool says there are no devices connected.

 

Shouldn't Windows (10) recognize the device and give me some kind of alert?

 

Should any USB cable with the right connectors work or do I need something special?

Edited by topper2k, 09 April 2020 - 02:30 AM.

[LynnInDenver]

Use two cables, connect both the KL25Z's ports to the computer. One lets you flash the firmware, the other lets you configure it and use it as the controller.

[topper2k]

Use two cables, connect both the KL25Z's ports to the computer. One lets you flash the firmware, the other lets you configure it and use it as the controller.

So I need to use both USB ports at the same time? I had to search the whole house to find just one of the right kind of USB cable.

[LynnInDenver]

One of the ports is used to flash the firmware. The other is used to configure it as a Pinscape, and as the "daily use" port for running on a pincab. Hooking both ports in at once is just a convenience.

[topper2k]

Thanks Lynn. I've tried both ports with no luck. I'm finding a lot of articles that say the KL25Z can get bricked by Windows 10.

[topper2k]

I think I'm good to go now. I really wish Pinscape did a better job documenting this upfront. Though honestly I probably would have gone another way had I seen this before buying. But once I figured out what to do, it wasn't that hard. So I'll try to save other users some of the trouble.

 

First off, I had a bad cable. I'd looked around the house and found a usb cable with the right connector on it. But when I used that cable, I couldn't access the bootloader on the KL25Z. I looked around the house again and found another cable. FWIW this one had a "lump" (IDK what to call it, it's like a plastic bump near the end of the cable) and that new cable worked. I could access the bootloader mode by holding the reset button and plugging in the KL25Z at the programming port. You have to be able to do this in order to do any of the other steps.

 

Before buying a KL25Z for Pinscape you should know there's a problem with the KL25Z board and Windows 10. Pinscape and the makers of the KL25Z all recommend fixing the issue by first connecting to a Windows 7 computer. If you don't have a Windows 7 computer (like probably everyone reading this in 2020+) here's what you can do. I'd suggest following these steps BEFORE you connect the KL25Z for the first time.

 

Follow the directions under "No Windows 7?" here (https://mcuoneclipse...ndows_8_and_10/) to disable removable devices from the library search. If you're using Windows Pro you can do it via the Group Policy editor. But I'm on Windows Home and had to do it via regedit. 

 

In regedit you have to modify a registry value, which is pretty straight forward. But in my case the registry value didn't exist and had to be created. The instructions weren't really clear on this part. The new registry value needs to go in: SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search

 

In my case, I didn't have a Windows Search folder in my registry and that had to be created too. Then I right clicked inside that registry folder and selected New->Dword (32bit value) I named the value DisableRemoveableDriveIndexing and set the value to 1. I rebooted my machine and was then able to follow Pinscape's directions for updating my KL25Z firmware and setup Pinscape.

[topper2k]

Does anyone know if Mike_R who's behind Pinscape is a member of this forum? I'd like to suggest he include the Windows 10 registry changes prominently in the setup instructions. It would have been a lot easier for me had I done that before plugging the KL25Z in for the first time.

[ludovids]

Does anyone know if Mike_R who's behind Pinscape is a member of this forum? I'd like to suggest he include the Windows 10 registry changes prominently in the setup instructions. It would have been a lot easier for me had I done that before plugging the KL25Z in for the first time.

Post your suggestion in a Pinscape thread here, and I'm sure mjr will see it.

[Badazzwi]

Someone should confirm these issues as I had none and did not need any registry changes when I set up my pinscape under windows 10. Maybe caused by a windows update?

[topper2k]

Someone should confirm these issues as I had none and did not need any registry changes when I set up my pinscape under windows 10. Maybe caused by a windows update?

 

Or it could be a difference in when your KL25Z was produced. As I understand it, newer boards would have the more recent firmware already installed. The issue is that you don't know when you buy one whether you're getting one that's fresh off the assembly line or that's been on a shelf for a while.

[topper2k]

I realize this is an old topic. But I had to setup a 2nd KL25Z for a new project and I had ZERO issues this time. I think my previous difficulties can all be blamed on the specific KL25Z I received having old/bad/out of date firmware. If anyone is considering Pinscape and the KL25Z I wholeheartedly endorse it.

Edited by topper2k, 05 October 2020 - 02:28 AM.

[Samuel Villena]

I realize this is an old topic. But I had to setup a 2nd KL25Z for a new project and I had ZERO issues this time. I think my previous difficulties can all be blamed on the specific KL25Z I received having old/bad/out of date firmware. If anyone is considering Pinscape and the KL25Z I wholeheartedly endorse it.

I’m sure of that, the problem with the kl25z is fixed since 2018... and I don’t know yours, but mine comes with an usb cable.p, you you don’t need to buy it apart (app less you want to connect the two of them).

I recommend to make a restoration point once you have it configured. Some drives or programs (like x360ce 4) can interfere with w10 and let your usb totally inservible for the pinscape...

In any case, I think the Mir documentation is pretty good, the only thing is that he has plenty of information, and it’s difficult to read everything before start to “touch” everything.


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[condorneck]

Hola, soy novato . estoy construyendo mi pinball. luego de probar varias veces mi kl25z me sucedio que no reconocia el puerto, y las luces de la placa no encendian, fijate cerca del regulador de 5v hay un componente que muestra TH1 , esto es un diodo doble de proteccion, este estaba en corto lo reemplace y ahora està funcionando, esto pudo ser producido por una deficiencia de la fuente de mi pc. saludos