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[Brer Frog]

I’m ready to install some type of front end for use in a mini-cab in order to eliminate using a keyboard.

I just want to be able to select & play a table using the buttons. However I’m not interested in a lot of bells & whistles, such as playing videos, at this time. If a table image displays on the playfield or backglass that’s fine. I just want to keep it simple to begin with.

I looked at both of these programs & was a bit overwhelmed by all the setup steps required. I’m sure I can figure out everything, but for PinUP Popper for example, do I need to install VLC, SAMBuild, or DMDExt if I don’t use all the features?

 

I have a pdf PinballX Guide that's 117 pages. It obviously must cover everything, but again I don't need everything.

 

Is there another FE out there that is simple & basic?

Edited by Brer Frog, 19 June 2018 - 10:33 AM.

[imajonzin]

I am considering a switch as well and would love to hear from people that have used both. My primary reason to switch is because I have switched my Playfield to 4K so want to record media in the same format.

[hlr53]

I believe those are your two best choices. PinballX works well (can be buggy at times if one is trying to run 3 or 4 videos which you are not) and it is very easy to setup FX3, FP and VP. You do not need to install or run playfield videos in attract mode. However, GTXJoe's program makes it a snap to install videos and backglass if you want them.

 

I am also interested in trying PinUP Popper but I just don't have the time to play with it right now.

[BambiPlattfuss]

Popper all the way! Pinballx was for me slow as hell, buggy and crasehd too often. Or pressed buttons which i didnt had in my cabinet.

Since i switched to popper i had 0 issues with the frontend. Also Popper is so much easier to handlöe then Pinballx. Autorecord all media you want as example. Also it is fully customizable which pinballx is not capable. And Popper is so much faster then Pinballx.
And many other features not mentioned now

So for me Popper and when someone asks i would always recommend it.

For a how to install i recommend to join the visual pinball junkies group on facebook and read their FAQ and also go in the PinupSystem Group on Facebook.

[GeorgeH]

I don't use either program but I think PinUp will soon have tables posted (if not already) that you won't be able to play on PinballX.

 

George

[scutters]

GeorgeH (or anyone!) why would some games work with pinup only?.... isn't it just a front end?

Must admit I haven't read up much on pinup as I'm new to this and thought it was just a front end, plus I'm happy with pinballx on a 3 screen set up

[mattarcadeguy]

I recently started upgrading my cabinet of 5 years, and was previously on Hyperpin. I changed over to Pinball X about 6 weeks ago and have had no real issues with it. It runs well, but some have said try popper so I may give it a shot just to see. As far as PinballX goes, I have not had any crashes with it and setup was easy (compared to Hyperpin) and at least for me it's been responsive. 

[Brer Frog]

Popper all the way! Pinballx was for me slow as hell, buggy and crasehd too often. Or pressed buttons which i didnt had in my cabinet.

Since i switched to popper i had 0 issues with the frontend. Also Popper is so much easier to handlöe then Pinballx. Autorecord all media you want as example. Also it is fully customizable which pinballx is not capable. And Popper is so much faster then Pinballx.
And many other features not mentioned now

So for me Popper and when someone asks i would always recommend it.

For a how to install i recommend to join the visual pinball junkies group on facebook and read their FAQ and also go in the PinupSystem Group on Facebook.

 

Shouldn't a pinball program be primarily supported on a pinball site? And make Facebook a secondary source? Like a lot of people I'm not on Facebook.

[GeorgeH]

Reply to scutters,

 

I think that some tables will have video that is only available on PinUp.  Surround sound is in the works.  The new "Stranger Things" table requires PinUp and problably more will come.

 

George

[BambiPlattfuss]

 

Popper all the way! Pinballx was for me slow as hell, buggy and crasehd too often. Or pressed buttons which i didnt had in my cabinet.

Since i switched to popper i had 0 issues with the frontend. Also Popper is so much easier to handlöe then Pinballx. Autorecord all media you want as example. Also it is fully customizable which pinballx is not capable. And Popper is so much faster then Pinballx.
And many other features not mentioned now

So for me Popper and when someone asks i would always recommend it.

For a how to install i recommend to join the visual pinball junkies group on facebook and read their FAQ and also go in the PinupSystem Group on Facebook.

 

Shouldn't a pinball program be primarily supported on a pinball site? And make Facebook a secondary source? Like a lot of people I'm not on Facebook.

 

The main source of Pinup is over at the other site which i am not allwed to mention here or i will get censred again. Randrs site if ya know what i mean,

Also nowadays it is so much easier and faster on facebook to ask for help and getting it but i can undersand why someone dont want to use it. 

GeorgeH (or anyone!) why would some games work with pinup only?.... isn't it just a front end?

Must admit I haven't read up much on pinup as I'm new to this and thought it was just a front end, plus I'm happy with pinballx on a 3 screen set up

thats correct! Example is Stranger Things Stranger Edition. Or the new poor mans dof aka ssf Versions of FX3 and doflinx Pinup System is needed. And more tables will definetly come. Or more PupPacks 

[psmiraglia]

Reply to scutters,

 

I think that some tables will have video that is only available on PinUp.  Surround sound is in the works.  The new "Stranger Things" table requires PinUp and problably more will come.

 

George

you are confusing PinUp Player (a VPX/DB2S plugin) with PinUp Popper (a front-end). Both programs are part of PinUp System. PinUp player tables like stranger things can be launched from PinballX or PinUp Popper without any complications. No VPX tables should be tied to any specific front end.

 

FWIW, I'm a happy PinballX user with over a thousand tables from multiple systems, including several PinUp tables

[randr]

Vpinball.com is censored here!? I sure wouldn’t think so. But that’s where you can get pinup system
I will add both frontends are great! But I switch to pinup myself.

Edited by randr, 19 June 2018 - 09:55 PM.

[Brer Frog]

Vpinball.com is censored here!? I sure wouldn’t think so. But that’s where you can get pinup system
I will add both frontends are great! But I switch to pinup myself.

 

I don’t see it listed under the Front End Support forum. Doing a search came up with results for WIP, Beta, and the actual program download. But I can’t seem to find a forum for PinUP Popper. Is this something that is going to added?

[randr]

Nailbuster wanted all support in release threads so either create a new post or add to download support topic. Nailbuster is great at the support so you don’t have to worry about that

[TerryRed]

Each system has it perks for different user types. I used PBX with very few issues, and originally had no interest in another front-end....

 

....well we all know how that turned out..lol. It took only 1 night of being the first tester of Popper.... and I was instantly converted....and a lot has changed since then!

 

 

Popper is definitely geared more toward's those who want more flexibly, power and customization. The first install and setup may be a bit more involved...but that because you have both PinUP Player and Popper as part of the PinUP System installation. If you follow my videos, you should have no major issues with Popper...especially if you update to the latest version.

 

However you don't need to setup Popper or use it at all if you just want to be able to play PinUP Player tables, or use PuP-Packs. You just setup PinUP Player.

[Brer Frog]

Nailbuster wanted all support in release threads so either create a new post or add to download support topic. Nailbuster is great at the support so you don’t have to worry about that

 

I understand. However someone new to Visual Pinball won't even know that Popper exists since there is no mention of it when looking at the forum list.

 

Just a thought -  perhaps it could be listed with the other front ends in order to make people aware of it. And then provide a path or directions where to go for the program & support.

[krille81]

I have changed to pinup popper this week. And i like it very much i have used pinballx manu years before. Pinup popper is very Easy to maintain and very fast, and very easy ti record new tables


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[tspeirs]

Hey,

 

Just wanted to say, if PinballX has problems with 4k or recording any videos please let me know at https://www.gameex.info

 

Not saying what front end to use but I run my playfield and topper in 4k now on PinballX and have zero issues with speed, and recording or playing videos. It should support both recording and playback without issue and be fast and bug free. If not I will fix it.

 

4K and recording of tables is a feature and fully supported by me. It is something I have implemented in more recent times though.

 

I don't count but I believe there have been several new releases this month and several last month.

 

Thanks.

Tom.

 

PS: Tried to work it out several times but if you want to contact me privately you will need to do so at https://gameex.info

Edited by tspeirs, 22 June 2018 - 10:22 PM.

[TerryRed]

Hey,

 

Just wanted to say, if PinballX has problems with 4k or recording any videos please let me know at https://www.gameex.info

 

Not saying what front end to use but I run my playfield and topper in 4k now on PinballX and have zero issues with speed, and recording or playing videos. It should support both recording and playback without issue and be fast and bug free. If not I will fix it.

 

4K and recording of tables is a feature and fully supported by me. It is something I have implemented in more recent times though.

 

I don't count but I believe there have been several new releases this month and several last month.

 

Thanks.

Tom.

 

PS: Tried to work it out several times but if you want to contact me privately you will need to do so at https://gameex.info

 

Out of curiosity, I tried updating PBX shortly after you implemented your first set of 4K updates (this was a bit after Popper first came out)...and PBX ran much better for me in 4K than it did before.

 

While I have my own preferences, I also won't tell others what they "should" use. I've never been the "there can only be one" type of guy....except maybe in my marriage...but I want to live. 

Edited by TerryRed, 23 June 2018 - 12:02 AM.

[tspeirs]

No worries.

 

Bottom line is that competition is a great thing for the community. People should be happy about it.