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#1 ZeroMoon

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 11:37 PM

Hello there. I've been running on Visual Pinball & VPX on an laptop. And apparently the video shutters most likely because of the flashing lights. I tried lowering the settings to better performance but I seem to have no luck so far.

 

Things I tried:

 

Launching the game with "Force exclusive Fullsceen Mode" on crashes the app.

Texture Compression, Disable Desktop Composition, Enable ScaleFX for Internal DMD doesn't work either.

Only have to run in 1920 x 1080 on my laptop otherwise it will have a white screen.

I also tried changing some of the settings on NVIDIA Control Panel including Maximum pre-rendered frames (set to 1), still have no luck.

V-sync doesn't help either.

 

 

Here my specs:

OS: Windows 10
Intergrated GPU: Intel® HD Graphics 4600
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M
CPU: Processor Intel® Core™ i7-4710HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz, 2501 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
RAM: 8 GB
System Model Alienware 17 R2
 
The problem is the video is skipping it makes the ball & the flippers frames cut which is making it hard to play because of the flashing lights.
 
Any suggestions on how to fix it so the video so VP can be smooth.

 



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Posted 06 November 2016 - 11:52 PM

Did you activate v-sync via nvidia control panel, or within VP itself?

 

Make sure you've tried the following: In the VP editor, select Video Options from the preferences drop down menu. Type "1" into the FPS Limiter/VSync box.


Edited by Ben Logan, 06 November 2016 - 11:53 PM.


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Posted 07 November 2016 - 12:28 AM

Did you activate v-sync via nvidia control panel, or within VP itself?

 

Make sure you've tried the following: In the VP editor, select Video Options from the preferences drop down menu. Type "1" into the FPS Limiter/VSync box.

 

Already have set my settings in nvidia control panel to "Use the 3D application setting" and I have set  the FPS Limiter/VSync box to "1".
 
The problem is that the flashing lights causes the app to shutter on my PC.

Edited by ZeroMoon, 07 November 2016 - 12:29 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2016 - 02:40 AM

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 04:01 AM

Every time I launch a table with "force exclusive fullscreen mode" it crashes the app even if my refresh rate is met. Is there anyway fix it?

 

Also, it is still shutter even with a high end laptop GPU. I don't know why. But it seems like the pinball moving faster causes the app to shutter


Edited by ZeroMoon, 07 November 2016 - 09:57 PM.


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Posted 08 November 2016 - 01:36 AM

Have you ensured that nothing else is open when you try to play? 

There's something fishy that I see on my cab - if anything is open I sometimes get TERRIBLE performance unless I'm in true fullscreen mode.   But VPX by itself, and only by itself, is fine.    My cab specs are actually pretty close to your laptop's specs and I'm running 8.1.  (Most folks around here seem to be running Windows 7). 

 

Did you walk through the steps to disable ddraw in VPM before you turned on full screen mode?  Ddraw is an ancient API that causes problems in some setups, and is incompatible with true fullscreen mode. 



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Posted 05 January 2017 - 04:03 AM

Have you ensured that nothing else is open when you try to play? 

There's something fishy that I see on my cab - if anything is open I sometimes get TERRIBLE performance unless I'm in true fullscreen mode.   But VPX by itself, and only by itself, is fine.    My cab specs are actually pretty close to your laptop's specs and I'm running 8.1.  (Most folks around here seem to be running Windows 7). 

 

Did you walk through the steps to disable ddraw in VPM before you turned on full screen mode?  Ddraw is an ancient API that causes problems in some setups, and is incompatible with true fullscreen mode. 

I don't know how to disable ddraw in Vpinmame.



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Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:14 AM

Check this Topic for info..

http://www.vpforums....llscreen&page=1

 

Specifically this post in the Topic above, but reading whole topic may help you find other ways to stop stutter ..

http://www.vpforums....e=4#entry346492

 

"I'm using regedit, just go to HKEY_LOCAL_USER\Software\Freeware\Visual Pinmame\romname
There is a entry called ddraw, double click it and change the value to 0"

 

Hope this helps.


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:01 PM

Check this Topic for info..

http://www.vpforums....llscreen&page=1

 

Specifically this post in the Topic above, but reading whole topic may help you find other ways to stop stutter ..

http://www.vpforums....e=4#entry346492

 

"I'm using regedit, just go to HKEY_LOCAL_USER\Software\Freeware\Visual Pinmame\romname
There is a entry called ddraw, double click it and change the value to 0"

 

Hope this helps.

Thanks, however I am still getting frame drops/skips. Is there any way to run the video smoothly without any frame drops?

 

This happens on any version I believe. (I just tested Vpin 9.x and 10 through.)


Edited by ZeroMoon, 05 January 2017 - 11:02 PM.


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 12:14 AM

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 01:23 AM

Have use this method before and still did not stop shuttering.



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Posted 06 January 2017 - 02:30 AM

One thing you might want to look at is your anti-virus. I run AVG and it causes havoc with VP - 9.2x, 9.9x, and VPX. Only way I can play some tables is to disable AVG while I am playing. Removed it off my dedicated VP pc so I wouldn't have to deal with that.

 

 

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 03:47 AM

One thing you might want to look at is your anti-virus. I run AVG and it causes havoc with VP - 9.2x, 9.9x, and VPX. Only way I can play some tables is to disable AVG while I am playing. Removed it off my dedicated VP pc so I wouldn't have to deal with that.

 

 

-LM

 

 

Does not work either (I have avast through, but I thought it was better than AVG.). Right now my somewhat noisy fan laptop running with windows 7 runs fine without any shuttering.