34 replies to this topic

[gtxjoe]

If I remember correctly with 9.2.1 SW or earlier, single monitor users would see the b2s backglass in front of the playfield, so if you made the B2S small, you could play the table and actually see the B2S on a single monitor.  

 

With 9.90 or later, when we moved to directx9 and windowed fullscreen mode, the behavior changed.  The B2S backglass is now always hidden by the playfield.  When the playfield is active, you can no longer see the B2S in front of the playfield.

 

Edit:  StevOz for the win

Edited by gtxjoe, 26 August 2015 - 12:55 PM.

[StevOz]

Incorrect I just tried Jungle Queen DT B2S with VP 9.91 the backglass still renders in front whilst using W10 and all the latest drivers I might add.

 

Edited by StevOz, 26 August 2015 - 01:06 PM.

[Scorpion]

Hello,

I am here again....the version of StevOz have a independent exe file for B2S, so you can use in same screen....

[Scorpion]

Hi StevOz, do you search for Rosve?

you can  find him in pinball universe...

[Trinity]

Berzerk is a really fun table. I have found myself playing for hours. I like all the different targets and lanes to shoot for. It is very challenging to keep the ball going and hit all the targets.

Original tables that play this well are hard to find imho.

Great job, Lodger!

[lodger]

A sincere word of thinks to all the people who have been providing feedback- Always nice to know a game is well received / opportunities to improve.

[Kaan]

To keep the b2s screen on top of the playfield I use a simple autohotkey program, you just select the b2s window and hit ctrl+space then it stays on top for that session. I couldn't find a permanent way.

 

http://jajodiasaket....ways-on-top.zip

[Kaan]

I found a way to make B2S always on top automatically with a autohotkey script, it runs when you load table and exits after finishing it's job. It's pretty seamless.

 

The codes added to the table are;

Dim apprun
Set apprun = CreateObject("wscript.shell")

apprun.Run("b2s.exe")

The first part is added to the start of the script and the second one is in the table init SUB.

 

Entire script for easy copying and pasting;

http://pastebin.com/kCJ9Sp1V

and the autohotkey program, put this in with the table file

https://dl.dropboxus...1968750/b2s.zip

 

Thanks to chepas for the script and GRONI for his MM table which is where I found a way to start external exe files.

 

There may be a better way to do this, I only used other peoples ideas. I don't know any visualbasic. This method works with other tables too.

Edited by Kaan, 27 September 2015 - 12:56 PM.

[xenonph]

THANKS FOR THE HELP AGAIN KAAN,

I WROTE A TUTORIAL ON USING DB2S FOR 1 MONITOR DESKTOP USERS, AFTER YOU HAD ME GO BACK AND CHECK OUT THAT ALWAYS-ON-TOP APP.

I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THIS, AS IT WOULD BE GREAT NOT TO HAVE TO CLICK THE ALWAYS-ON-TOP BEFORE EACH TABLE.

WILL THIS WORK FOR OTHER TABLES? OR JUST THIS TABLE?

WILL IT NEED TO BE IN DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE SCRIPT ON DIFFERENT TABLES?

THIS IS GREAT!!!!!

I WILL POINT PEOPLE IN THIS DIRECTION FROM MY TUTORIAL IF YOU DONT MIND.

THANKS FOR THE HELP

Edited by xenonph, 15 November 2015 - 01:56 AM.

[Kaan]

This method worked on a couple other tables I've tried. But I don't know if it would work on every table.

[xenonph]

ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT...I WILL TEST EACH TABLE...THIS WILL BE WORTH TRYING AS IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER THAN THE ALWAYS-ON-TOP METHOD....THANKS AGAIN

 

 

EDIT:  IT HAS WORKED FOR EVERY TABLE THAT I HAVE TRIED IT ON SO FAR!!!

 

IM NOT VERY FAR THROUGH THE LIST, BUT I BELIEVE THIS WILL WORK FOR ALL.

 

I AM ONLY USING TABLES THAT USE ROMS.  NOT SURE ABOUT THE EM'S.

Edited by xenonph, 15 November 2015 - 01:59 AM.

[xenonph]

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT I CAN SEE IS THAT THE FLIPPERS SEEM TO STICK SOMETIMES WITH THIS METHOD, COMPARED TO THE ALWAYS-ON-TOP METHOD.

THE FLIPPERS STICK ON MY COMPUTER. FLIPPERS MAY NOT STICK FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

(MY COMPUTER SEEMS TO HAVE MIND OF ITS OWN!)

Edited by xenonph, 15 November 2015 - 02:40 AM.

[lodger]

MAJOR UPDATE!!!

see post on page one for link and rule update:

 

Update includes: Expanded feature/ruleset, playfield revisions, improved graphics and audio, improved desktop/full screen support,

http://www.vpforums....ic=32383&page=1

 

Please let me know your thoughts!

 

-Lodger

[DjDiabolik]

I found a way to make B2S always on top automatically with a autohotkey script, it runs when you load table and exits after finishing it's job. It's pretty seamless.

 

The codes added to the table are;

Dim apprun
Set apprun = CreateObject("wscript.shell")

apprun.Run("b2s.exe")

The first part is added to the start of the script and the second one is in the table init SUB.

 

Entire script for easy copying and pasting;

http://pastebin.com/kCJ9Sp1V

and the autohotkey program, put this in with the table file

https://dl.dropboxus...1968750/b2s.zip

 

Thanks to chepas for the script and GRONI for his MM table which is where I found a way to start external exe files.

 

There may be a better way to do this, I only used other peoples ideas. I don't know any visualbasic. This method works with other tables too.

I have tryed to add this line to the VPX Table "Last Action Hero 1.07" and apparently i can't found a solution working good.

 

Try to ask.... this LAH1.07 apparently request a B2S files not attached to main zip tables. I have downloaded a b2s from this forum and rename it like the vpx files. Now the tables it's start and working but the b2s remain in background..... damn.

I have tryed to add this two lines in the script....... click on "Compile" (thinks it's somethigs like SAVE Feature or not??) and exit from script editor. I have tryed to launch the tables but apparently the b2son voices it's not works. If i set to "0" the vpx loaded ever the b2s files and it's also in background also if i put the run b2s.exe line in ever parts..... damn... how it's works ?

[xenonph]

This method only works on tables that use the old controller method.

So you would have have to remove the new controller vbs method and replace with Set Controller = CreateObject("B2S.Server")

 

You can check these 2 VPX tables out for reference... These were a couple of the older VPX tables that still used the old controller method.

Attack From Mars (Bally 1995) VPX dB2SDT ColorDMD MOD v1.0

https://www.vpforums...&showfile=13160

 

Judge Dredd (Bally 1993) VPX dB2SDT ColorDMD MOD v1.0

https://www.vpforums...&showfile=13161

 

These are made specifically for DT users who want to see a working dB2S backglass on same screen as table.

 

Another way to keep the backglass "On top" of table and not in background, is to use the "always-on-top" app.

You can find more info on this here...

https://www.vpforums...showtopic=32515

 

Hope this helps you.