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#1 Flying Dutchman

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 09:27 AM

Cirqus Voltaire [Active Backglass]



Version: 1.0.0
Category: Animated Backglasses

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Description:
'Active Backglass' - Cirqus Voltaire
Please find below the result of our 'Active Backglass' / 'Animated Backglass' experiment to add more Gameplay to a Virtual Pinball Table by adding a second screen with the actual
active backglass instead of a static one.

With a little table-script adjustment (without changing the actual table) the backglass will be loaded automatically upon start of the table in question
(thanks again GRONI for the general idea which got bbastyr and myself onto the final script on how it is loaded/done today).

It varies between 16 - 24 different images played after each other and so it simulates a backglass of a real pinball machine.

It is not bound to 16-9, FS, 4:3 tables so it can be used at all setups at all times (with or without the HyperPin Frontend).

This is also the reason why I release them (with the mutual agreement of the original Table-authors (thanks again TAB/Destruk/JPSalas/Lord Hiryu, GRONI),

As it is not shipped/changed with an adjusted table script already but a copy/paste adjustment in the tablescript done by yourself instead, an authorisation of the
actual author of the table should not even be necessary, as discussed in earlier threads.

I know VP Flash will be available soon and the second release of it will also support ROM supported animated backlasses.
This is a fantastic step forward and we should be grateful to BadBoyBill and Billpa and all of the HyperPin Team for putting such effort and time to take VP to a next
level including 'Active Backglass Support'.

To start off with please find attached the zip file containing an .exe and instructions on how adjust the table script and so to auto-load an
'Active Backglass' version of Indiana Jones, Lord Of The Rings, Cactus Canyon, Scared Stiff, The Shadow Champion Pub, Cirqus Voltaire and Attack From Mars.

Please be aware it will hammer your graphic card even more than the normal 'hit' while using a 'static' 2 screen setup.
All was tested well without any stuggering with a 256 Meg card.


Thanks to all for your support and suggestions and a BIG THANKS to WWW, Unclewilly and destruk for showing me the way on how to create an 'active-one' best
in PS4.


There's more to come .. soon.
Enjoy!

Cheers,
FD.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 11:50 AM


Whoo hoo, FD

I can release a table of CV without the backbox on the main screen for VP9.

Well done!

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE (Pinball Ken @ Aug 10 2009, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whoo hoo, FD

I can release a table of CV without the backbox on the main screen for VP9.

Well done!

PK cool.gif


Sorry .. I don't get it .. ?

Edited by Flying Dutchman, 10 August 2009 - 02:22 PM.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 02:04 PM

Read my signature as a producer of table mods, FD

Here's a picture of my last CV mod release with a working backbox in place, albeit with no lights flashing. So, well done!

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PS The changes I've made to Fuseball/Ian Boffin's original table:

Circus Voltaire VPT - The Greatest Pinball on Earth!
====================================================

Version 2.0Mod (PK, 06/08/07)
=============================
-I started modding here, so it seems appropriate to end here.
-My final version with improved aiming for flippers and many other minor tweaks.
-Playfield graphics redone from a completely bare playfield shot.
-Neon tube redone with a choice of colours (manual changeover).
-Added some further playfield features like missing GI lights.
-Also ringmaster graphics redone to blend in better.
-Spinner updated with front and back images now.
-Save ball feature removed since flaky.
-Changed over to white rubbers.

Version 1.7Mod (PK, 09/23/05)
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-Trough fix applied. (Should stop more than one ball being released to the plunger.)

Version 1.6Mod (PK, 08/25/05)
=============================
-A parting present as my favourite table of all time! (Thanks to Ian Boffin for building it.)
-All backdrops and previous options remain in table, just look around.
-Altered diverter code completely to toggle diverter wall open and shut.
-DMD on table changed to wall with overlaid decal to show ramp details correctly.
-Added Lite version, without the large Menagerie (Wild) Ball. It's up to 4x faster.
-Main script now in one of two VBS files. Select the table script you want ie full or lite.
-A whole host of further minor tweaks, including all posts and rubbers rings added in now.

Version 1.56Mod (PK, 05/24/05)
==============================
-A special 30th wedding anniversary edition!
-I've changed to PD's impulse plunger: you really need some skill to get the skillshot now!
-Put in racerxme's fix for balls freezing table when trapped at the sides of the Ringmaster.
-A couple of bugs hopefully removed.
-Some further minor tweaks.

Version 1.55Mod (PK, 03/24/05)
==============================
-I've succumbed and put a drop wall in place for the Acrobat Diverter, at PacDude's request!
-Splendid new backdrop by maf to go with a revised working backbox now positioned on the right.
-There's now 3 backdrops and 2 rooms, or go for plain to make the backbox really stand out.
-I've not put in PD's impulse plunger as you can hit the skillshot 9/10 as it is with practice.
-Made the ball's disappearance behind the Ringmaster more effective.
-Some further minor tweaks.

Version 1.54Mod (PK, 05/25/04)
==============================
-If you don't want the bell ringing on the backbox, search for PlaySound "BBell10" and ' it.
-Plunger pullback has been increased so you can't get the skillshot on a full plunge now!
-Corrected the code for balls caught by the diverter. Thanks to Jive for pointing this out.
-Included some alternative graphics from Jive. Flashers that are yellower, etc.
-If you want a lighter playfield turn off Render Shadows (i.e. untick it).
-Now at long last the table responds the way I'd like it to do!

Version 1.53Mod (PK, 05/05/04)
==============================
-Finally got the correct coding in for fading flashers, GI and so on, thanks goes to PacDude for writing and including this!
-And an animated backbox with working cannon shot operated by the flippers or DMD, thanks to Mrhide and scapino.
-Some new graphics are used with a cleaned-up bumper area and mini playfield, a special thanks to Jive for doing this.
-Sorted out shadows on the neon tube another way, so Render Shadows box ticked again. Neon core darkened, too.
-Last additions to the highwire rail and mini playfield, so that finally all of the visible CV playfield is now accounted for.
-Carried out a complete reorganization of the Script file, with PacDude's additional code being included for lighting.
-Additional ball images for the 'Wild Ball' and cannon make this a resource-hungry table, alter YieldTime to suit.
-Tweaks are posted on the Web to make all MS Windows OSs free up more CPU cycles. Use them!
-Ensure unnecessary background programs aren't running and turn off ball shadows and decals in VP.
-Don't forget that pressing the 'C' key gives you a choice of some extra colours for the 'Wild Ball'!
-And at last, save-ball code altered to work correctly under VPinMAME, thanks to PacDude.
-Hopefully all the few remaining bugs are now accounted for!

Version 1.52Mod (PK, 04/18/04)
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-An attempt to include the JoinCircus and Ring flashers into the fading light system!
-Sorted shadows appearing on the lit neon with Render Shadows box ticked.
-Remember there are 3 backgrounds if you don't like the default one.
-And there are alternative cabinet rails and lockbars, too.
-Turn off ball shadows and decals for best speed/looks.

Version 1.51Mod (PK, 04/14/04)
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-Correct implementation of PacDude's newest fading light system!
-Some further cosmetic alterations to the transparent ramps.
-Now more of a contrast between neon tube off and on.
-Selected no shadows and lighter rails and lockbar.
-Read the notes below for looks and fastest play.
-Hopefully, the last revision at this time.

Version 1.5Mod (PK, 04/9/04)
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-I'm using a different method to pick up a trapped ball behind the diverter and prevent VP lock-up. It works!
-Added a slow-down trigger at the top of the outer loop, so super-fast balls slowed to give diverter time to open!
-Visually redesigned the disappearing Boom! Balloon to actually look (as well as play) like the real McCoy.
-Slimmed down the Ringmaster and lifted him slightly to sit just above the playfield when he's first raised.
-And considerably improved the system whereby the ball is hidden when passing behind the Ringmaster.
-Added a fading light system (thanks to PD). You can turn this off in the menu options to gain some fps.
-There's a choice of 'Wild Ball' colours , thanks to the tireless work of Simeon. Just press 'C' to cycle.
-Finished the 'Wild Ball' cage correctly by adding a top restraint and spacing the rings better.
-Made some further cosmetic additions to the table and some deletions too.
-Still smoother play following further tweaks to the playfield.
-Turn off Ball Shadows and Decals for fastest frame rates.
-YieldTime = 1 and Sync = 0, so change if necessary.
-Increase game difficulty by altering Table Slope to 7.
-Now the finest CV VPM table of all time!
-This is the last revision at the moment.

Version 1.49Mod (PK, 03/22/04)
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-Diverter now opens from the opposite end so that balls cannot be trapped running back from acrobat ramp!
-Fast and furious play returns with further tweaking.
-Some further additions to the table.

Version 1.48Mod (PK, 03/12/04)
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-Adjustments to table to stop balls being stuck in the diverter so often, including a change to the coding.
-Further additions made to the table, including housings for spinners etc.

Version 1.47Mod (PK, 03/06/04)
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-Best CV yet!
-Made centre ramp appear tranparent leading up to Highwire lock magnet (the remainder is already transparent).
-Added additional triggers so that ball is never seen behind Ringmaster now.

Version 1.46Mod (PK, 03/02/04)
==============================
-OK, this has come about as a result of PacDude denigrating my flipper settings. Rightly as it turns out.
They're now at a slower speed to improve shots up the centre of the table! But it's a late table so flipper
action is still relatively powerful.
-Fixed, with the help of PacDude, balls appearing to pass in front of the Ringmaster when it's raised.
-Added missing metal rail behind WOW targets, which extends down on either side of the Ringmaster, to
stop balls been trapped here (plastics raised a little, too).
-Small adjustments to Wild Ball and other areas to further improve play.

Version 1.45Mod (PK, 02/25/04)
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-New big Menagerie (Wild Ball) ball and a revised BigBallRebound slingshot.
-Additional 'flyer' backdrop (default) to other familiar backdrops.
-Fixed problem where 2 balls were released by the trough by increasing the size of the ShooterLane trigger.
-Flasher behind Ringmaster moved and reduced in size to appear under Highwire Lock Magnet.
-Boom! Balloon reshaped to appear visually more realistic, within the constraints of VP6.
-In-Lanes altered to reflect how they appear on real CV pinballs.
-Walls moved back on UpperBumper and rubber guides introduced below, in place of walls.
-A number of elasticity tweaks have been made.
-Improved flipper settings.
-YieldTime at 1, so remember to alter this if you use a different setting.

Version 1.4 (PD, 12/06/03)
==========================
-New larger viewing angle
-Added 2 optional game room backdrops (different perspectives)
-New reel based flasher effects with cabinet reflections
-Added backbox bottom edge to top of table to give a better illusion of a full table

Version 1.3 (PD, 6/21/03)
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- Fixed problem with the Menegerie ball introduced in 1.2
- Fixed problem with the Boom Balloon caused by having smooth walls for it in 1.2 (now uses two sets of walls)

Version 1.2 (PD, 6/7/03)
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- Fixed problem with Ringmaster magnet and newer versions of Vpinmame
- Improved the graphics in numerous areas, especially lighting, textures and the apron cards
- Altered default viewing angle
- Improved flipper settings
- Added new options to the F6 GUI Options Menu
- New and/or improved table sounds

Version 1.1 (PD, 11/5/02)
=========================
Bug Fixes:

-Adjusted more playability settings including the magnets and outlane posts.
-Fixed bug where the Ringmaster wouldn't move sometimes unless you opened and shut the coin door (although this timer solution only works right if you "skip startup test" in your Vpinmame prefs for the game.
-Added a line in the script for CV.YieldTime. It's commented out by default. If you're using Vpinmame 1.20B, you might want to try uncommenting it as it seems to help get rid of sound stutter here with 1.20B.
-wpcmame sent some script fixes and table adjstements, including some more added table sounds.
This includes a new option to NOT SAVE the ball positions between games (in F6/startup GUI menu).
-Added randomize statement to script to improve Ringmaster magnet launching randomness.
-Adjusted diverter and cabinet wall to try and elmiminate a bug where the ball gets stuc once in awhile by the right orbit diverter.


Version 1.0 (PD, 11/01/02)
==========================
Note: Uses VP6 features

- Some script changes and updates by wpcmame (Includes Rom Select and Dip Switch Menu Via F6 and at start of game)
(Note: To disable the GUI menu at start of game, change the user value at beginning of script)
- Total playfield cleanup (ramp wire and neon removal!)
- Added Metal Rail Cabinet
- New Flipper Settings
- Plunger lane apron work
- Various script updates
- Shiny ball images are now selectable from the VP Editor Menu
- Added coin sound
- Added outhole sound
- Added option in script to disable the GI effects
- Added Table Info section and a rule summary
- Added Apron Rails
- Probably some other smaller changes I forgot about
- Made Game Significantly Harder (as people were telling me it was ridiculously easy) by:
1> Increased Table Slope to 7
2> Shortened flippers to 120 length (and metal support wires)
3> Adjusted outlane posts


beta 2.7 (Ian Boffin, 09/04/01)
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Second public beta
Note: There are still a lot of things to be done on this table, but this one is at
least fully playable with vpinmame 1.0

*Changes

- Updated to use vpinmame 1.0, WPC.VBS 2.0, VP TB4
- Juggler, highwire and ringmaster magnets use cvpmMagnet
- All playfield and backdrop bitmaps set to JPG format
- GI added
- Ringmaster mech optimised for vpinmame 1.0
- Sideshow diverter now works properly
- Scanned plastics used for some bitmaps
- Removed previous vpinmame bug workaround code.
Unmask Voltaire bug is fixed in vpinmame 1.0! smile.gif
- Fixed minor bug in ball lock switches
- Shiny ball image (thanks PacDude)

*Issues

- Ringmaster eddy sensor still fails to initialise and activate.
Simulated via yellow ballyhoo standups.

*To be done
- Add Remaining lamp decals.
- Optimise decal bitmaps for size.
- Add flasher plastic support.
- Add animated Cannon to backdrop.
- Cleanup ramp and neon artefacts on playfield.

beta 2.6 (Ian Boffin, 06/29)
============================

First public beta

*Changes

- Insert decals added for *most* lamps
- New background bitmap
- All bitmaps set to 256 colours (optimised palette)

*Issues (V. IMPORTANT)

- VPinMAME activation of Ringmaster mid switch is wrong (will be fixed in next VPinMAME)
- Release of Ringmaster magnet is forced due to "twitching" magnet solenoid.
This should be fixed in the next VPinMAME release with a "smoothed" solenoid.
- Sideshow diverter post solenoid sometimes does not activate.
- Ringmaster eddy sensor fails to initialise and activate. Simulated via yellow ballyhoo
standups.

- VPinMAME bug causes lock up at end of "Unmask Voltaire". There is a work-around in place
to open and close the coin door during a ball search where ALL balls can be accounted for.
Notes: This bug only seems to occur when playing with sound enabled.
The work-around is not very reliable but better than nothing.

*To be done
- Add Remaining lamp decals.
- Optimise decal bitmaps for size.
- Add GI support.
- Add flasher plastic support.
- Add animated Cannon to backdrop.
- Cleanup ramp and neon artefacts on playfield.

beta 2.5 (Ian Boffin, 06/22)
========

*Changes

- Changed coin door event from redundant popper solenoid event handler to Boom Balloon up
event.
- Added some more stuff to the debug list

Last one before a public beta this... so even if it doesn't fix the problem then at least
our efforts won't have gone to waste. smile.gif

beta 2.4 (Ian Boffin, 06/21)
========

*Changes
- Added counts for all ball locks (juggler saucers, highwire etc.)
- Used ball popper event to check for ball count of all locks + trough
If the count is 4 then something has gone wrong...
... so open and close coin door to force game to re-check everything
This event should only be relevant when the game is in ballsearch mode - all the rest of
the time the popper fires when there is at least 1 ball in play.

If Matt's observations hold true then this may force the game to continue happily.
This only seems to happen when sound is on (I've tried it on 3 different PCs with sound off
and it played fine on all of them). Ultimately, even if this works it's not an entirely
satisfactory solution but what can you do??? smile.gif

beta 2.3 (Ian Boffin, 06/19)
========

* Changes
- Added timer to set trough switches to reflect ballsintrough count every second.
This way, if the emulation is clearing all switch data between "Join the Cirqus" steps
then the trough still gets set correctly once it starts re-scanning.

This worked okay for me... but so did the last one. sad.gif

beta 2.2 (Ian Boffin, 06/19) debug release
========

* Changes (hopefully fixes)
- Changed ball trough to manual system (no ball stack)
- Changed outhole entrance to ToM-style entrance
- Added debug reporting on balls and switches in trough

If anything anomalous happens in the balltrough, such as balls in trough and switches
inconsistent with each other or the game ball searching when all 4 balls are either on the table or reported as in the trough - let me know what you find.

I played through Unmask Voltaire without any problems like this...but I could have just been lucky. smile.gif

beta2 / 2.1(Ian Boffin, 06/18)
=====
* fixes
- Improved outhole access channel - hopefully this will fix the "Unmask Voltaire" bug by
lessening the chance of multiple balls entering the outhole simultaneously
- Weakened menagerie slingshot (shouldn't really be a slingshot at all but is a bit
lifeless without the ball)
- Tweaked left and right inner loop entrances - left return goes to left flipper correctly
- Coin door opened and shut during initialisation - this should fix the non-active motor
on startup that was sometimes occurring
- Incorrect inner loop switch hit events corrected
- Tweaked skill shot ramp to make it harder / more like the real thing


beta1 (Ian Boffin, 06/12)
=======
* First private test release

* Issues
- No GI support
- No flashed plastic support
- No cannon support or "circus luck" on backdrop
- Ringmaster Eddy Sensor not functioning in vpinmame
- Ringmaster magnet pulsing unpredictably - will be handled by smoothed
solenoid in next vpinmame release
- Sideshow diverter pulsing unpredictably - works *most* of the time.

* To be done
- lamp insert decals
- rework of playfield bitmap (from scratch!)
- backdrop


Credits
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Playfield : Eric Priepke / Ian Boffin / John A Popadiuk
Scripting : Ian Boffin / Mike Pollmann

Without whom...
===============
Intrepid Test Team : Matt, Leon, E (kabuki_jo), Douglas, Jason
VPinMAME Tamers : wpcmame, Steve Ellenoff, Tom Haukap
Cirqus Pioneers : Mike and Eric - it's their table really!

WMS Cirqus Members : popadiuk.silver.skalon.deal.berry.zabriskie.rhine.morris.hudson.toy

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 02:23 PM

Thanks PK! .. sorry I didn't get it the first time! wink.gif

Cheers,
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 08:52 PM

Hi PK,
Is there any chance of a version of CV coming out in full screen cabinet style (not spanned) for us cabinet players ??
This is one table I would love to see in all its full screen glory !!
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Posted 11 August 2009 - 09:53 PM

QUOTE (pinball buzz @ Aug 11 2009, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there any chance of a version of CV coming out in full screen cabinet style (not spanned) for us cabinet players ??
This is one table I would love to see in all its full screen glory !!

How would one do the Cannon portions of the table w/o the backglass representation?... huh.gif

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE (ValamirCleaver @ Aug 11 2009, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (pinball buzz @ Aug 11 2009, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there any chance of a version of CV coming out in full screen cabinet style (not spanned) for us cabinet players ??
This is one table I would love to see in all its full screen glory !!

How would one do the Cannon portions of the table w/o the backglass representation?... huh.gif


Thats a damn good question - will you give me 5 minutes ?
I was just waiting to see if anyone would pick up on that VC !! unsure.gif
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Posted 12 August 2009 - 06:06 AM

WWW did some more testing on this .. destruk looked into it on scripting it to respond to gameplay.
In the next version of 'VPFlash' ROM-controlled Backglasses will be supported ..

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 10:54 AM

There's a number of things to be clear on here, guys

1. The ROM scoring is on the main playfield, unlike other pins generally.
2. The backbox contains flashers, lights and the cannonball firing mechanism, all governed by the ROM.

Now to the table:

1. It's true I've produced the animation of the cannonball, though the real pin has more than one cannonball, I believe, and maybe as many as 10 balls. Also in VP9 the 1 cannonball 'esapes' from the backbox. It's hasn't been possible for me to replicate the flashers in the backbox yet.
2. The 'Wild Ball' is 4 balls in reality, which needs adjusting for each new VP, as to bounce and movement. I've now sorted it for VP9.
3. Magnets are done differently for VP9 and so far I've been unable to keep the ball attached to the Ringmaster, when it rises!

To be honest, I've been waiting for some 'fixes' to VP9.

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 11:06 AM

Here is a proof of concept I did. But have desided to stop working on it untill Flash VP is released.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 06:23 AM

QUOTE (Pinball Ken @ Aug 10 2009, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whoo hoo, FD

I can release a table of CV without the backbox on the main screen for VP9.

Well done!

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Hay that is really fabulous. No only well done but also matchless. How could you do that please tell us also and wink.gif Keep it up!

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 06:55 AM

Yes .. it is amazing what WWW did to 'activate' the Cirqus Voltaire Backglass! smile.gif

Since UVP was released short after that time-period all was focussed on getting the 'moving-parts' bit incorporated into UVP as well .. which it will eventually. wink.gif

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#14 CaptainNeo

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:21 AM

i noticed a lot of these posts are much older. Should I attempt this with JP's FS version of the game? Will it work. I've tried the B2S verison with animated backglass and it works ok, but JP's FS version just plays better and less glitchy overall.
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#15 kruge99

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 12:57 PM

QUOTE (CaptainNeo @ May 14 2012, 04:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i noticed a lot of these posts are much older. Should I attempt this with JP's FS version of the game? Will it work. I've tried the B2S verison with animated backglass and it works ok, but JP's FS version just plays better and less glitchy overall.


Flying Dutchman can verify this for certain, but I think "Active Backglass" is just an animated backglass image without any connection to visual pinmame. Think of it as an animated GIF file with the animation constantly looping and it's only the lights, there is no interaction with the canon elements in the case of Cirqus Voltaire.


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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:42 AM

QUOTE (CaptainNeo @ May 14 2012, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i noticed a lot of these posts are much older. Should I attempt this with JP's FS version of the game? Will it work. I've tried the B2S verison with animated backglass and it works ok, but JP's FS version just plays better and less glitchy overall.


The B2S version is JP's Table, any glitches should be the same. The only difference is the backglass and slightly modified flipper settings.

#17 OuchTilt

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE (rosve @ May 15 2012, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (CaptainNeo @ May 14 2012, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i noticed a lot of these posts are much older. Should I attempt this with JP's FS version of the game? Will it work. I've tried the B2S verison with animated backglass and it works ok, but JP's FS version just plays better and less glitchy overall.


The B2S version is JP's Table, any glitches should be the same. The only difference is the backglass and slightly modified flipper settings.


I played quite a bit of JP's version before moving to Rosve's B2S version and I prefer the modified flipper setting from Rosve.

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