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[gogo69]

oldest driver i can get from nvidia homepage ist 314.07 from 2013.2.18 ....

what version are you using with win xp 32 and is fxaa working without haze ?

[Argo]

I'm not using xp, only Windows 7, and the drivers are the latest 334.67, the only ones that do something with in Windows 7 and Vp, but the tables are unplayable, I hope nvidia will fix this issue with the next drivers.

[gogo69]

well for me playing around in the nvidea settings always turned out to produce slowdowns - xp / w7  no difference

i will just stick to default settings because this works best

 

i will try the older driver for xp and report back if fxaa without haze works

Edited by gogo69, 04 February 2014 - 11:22 AM.

[gogo69]

guys, 314.07 works... i have to set ru to 0 and ro to 1

then hardware fxaa works !

 

too bad the gtx650ti is too weak to push a solid framerate and so i end up with good picture and bad performance (no haze)

 

thats all i can report ....

for those who have all the software at home and want to tinker around -> XP gives you much more frames but sometimes this does not save you from microstutter so you have to set vsync in the table options and it will not save you from stutter all the time ....

 

i am a framerate fetishist and therefore i decided to give fxaa and aa the ......

 

at least i have the opportunity to change OS now if a table runns better on one of them

Edited by gogo69, 04 February 2014 - 04:35 PM.

[insx]

In case anyone wants to download the nVidia 270.61 driver:

 

http://www.nvidia.co...hql-driver.html

http://www.nvidia.co...hql-driver.html

http://www.nvidia.co...hql-driver.html

 

Links truncated, so XP32, Win7/Vista 32 and Win7/Vista 64 respectively.

Edited by insx, 04 February 2014 - 05:11 PM.

[gogo69]

thank you for the links , too bad the gtx650 is not supported

Edited by gogo69, 04 February 2014 - 05:55 PM.

[Argo]

What about Windows Xp x64?

[woodsy15]

This is great info about XP 32bit having better performance and Frame rate than 7 64bit. Just a question, would we not want to go with XP 64-bit to be able to utilize greater than 3GB of ram ?

[DJRobX]

XP 64 doesn't work with B2B collision code for some reason.   I don't think VP benefits much from more than 3gb of RAM anyway.

[gogo69]

you know it really depends on the tabel you are playing

for example T2 runns better on XP until it comes to "payback time"

all the flashing lights suddenly make xp stutter

in W7 - no problem with payback time

but performance in normal play is not as smooth as in xp

 

so i use W7 to play T2 because i like the overall performance in W7 more

[DJRobX]

I have an i3 4340 on an Asrock h87m pro4, with a GeForce 650ti (GeForce 240 for the backglass/dmd0.   I went through the painful ordeal of loading XP onto my cab (and lost Win7 in the process, due to it being installed EFI boot on a GPT partition).

 

XP runs far and away better than Win7 x64 on my system, particularly with the new tables that have 3D models.    UncleWilly's new MonsterBash table went  from stutter-galore 45fps to buttery smooth 500+fps.    There are some other tables I won't mention here that were playable in Win7 but they're now super smooth under XP.   HyperPin also works a lot better, tables exit almost immediately, it took 5 seconds or so in Win7.    The only negative seems to be that XP takes a few seconds longer to boot up. 

 

New problem under XP: The full system freezing / hanging / 1 frame per 10 seconds at loading that some people report.   Some report using an older driver to solve this, but that doesn't work on my 650ti.   Fortunately, this seems to be completely solved by turning ddraw off on the DMD.   I can turn direct3d on to get stretching, so I don't seem to be losing much there.  

[Argo]

Does Windows 8 give better fps than Windows 7?

[gogo69]

with the new dx9 builds i feel like this was a complete and utter waste of time to fiddle with winXP on my cab

Edited by gogo69, 11 March 2014 - 11:52 AM.

[earbiter]

LINUX - ubuntu 12.04

 

For the longest time the playfield ordering wasnt working well under wine for VP which meant I had to run software rendered and it was laggy as shit.  Turn on hardware accel and 1 or both of the flippers and other items on the deck would not display.

 

Now with the recent Wine DX improvements (im running wine 1.7.14) AND the incredible work that Mukuste has been doing on the VP DX9 test versions I have been able to run VP/Pinmame fully hardware accelerated!!!

 

Running VP9_DX9_test9a.exe and playing table Attack from Mars (Bally) (1995) (JPSalas) (2.0) I get around 350 fps. 

 

This is on a amd PII X4 965(quad core) @ 3.8ghz, 4g ram and a GTS 250 nvidia 3.04 open gl 3.3.0 with 1g ram.

 

I created a new bottle ( isolates windows applications) and its now only a couple steps to get VPM working!

 

1)  Run winecfg and add dll wsh56vb  (otherwise VB scripts wont work and pinmame fails).  Requires winetricks.

2)  Run the pinmame setup.exe to associate the DLL in to the windows registry.

3)  Run VP !!

 

I created a script with the following:

 

WINEDEBUG=fixme-all wine "$1"

 

Make it executable and then just pass it the name of the VP I want to launch.

 

 

P.S.  Since its only single-threaded this is the performance I get on ONE CORE.

Edited by earbiter, 12 March 2014 - 03:38 PM.

[Slydog43]

wow, neat find with Ubuntu

[gogol]

xp32 works like a charm for my cab.    

[insx]

Interesting, I might have to try the linux thing in my cabinet.

[berns]

I got it working in Linux too per your instructions, however I cannot get the Pinmame DMD display to stay on top of the VP window in fullscreen mode, only in windowed mode.  Any suggestions?  I've tried all the combinations of winecfg window manager options to no avail.

[earbiter]

UPDATE for VPX

 

I tried the new VPX installer and was having problems with a blank screen.  So I tried various wine settings like changing the os, running as a virtual desktop and other things without any luck.

 

I finally figured it out!  Follow my ubuntu 12 directions and then add the d3dx9_36 dll using winetricks and it all works as expected.

 

I am currently running Linux Mint 17.3 on a amd fx-8350 8-core with 16gb ram and a nvidia gtx 750 ti running 355.11

 

 

SHORT INSTALL

 

extract vpinballx_minimal into your visual pinball and winetricks the d3d dll and vpx should run on your existing pinmame.  Extract vpinmame26_minimal in there and run setup to get it working,

 

 

 

 

LINUX - ubuntu 12.04

 

For the longest time the playfield ordering wasnt working well under wine for VP which meant I had to run software rendered and it was laggy as shit.  Turn on hardware accel and 1 or both of the flippers and other items on the deck would not display.

 

Now with the recent Wine DX improvements (im running wine 1.7.14) AND the incredible work that Mukuste has been doing on the VP DX9 test versions I have been able to run VP/Pinmame fully hardware accelerated!!!

 

Running VP9_DX9_test9a.exe and playing table Attack from Mars (Bally) (1995) (JPSalas) (2.0) I get around 350 fps. 

 

This is on a amd PII X4 965(quad core) @ 3.8ghz, 4g ram and a GTS 250 nvidia 3.04 open gl 3.3.0 with 1g ram.

 

I created a new bottle ( isolates windows applications) and its now only a couple steps to get VPM working!

 

1)  Run winecfg and add dll wsh56vb  (otherwise VB scripts wont work and pinmame fails).  Requires winetricks.

2)  Run the pinmame setup.exe to associate the DLL in to the windows registry.

3)  Run VP !!

 

I created a script with the following:

 

WINEDEBUG=fixme-all wine "$1"

 

Make it executable and then just pass it the name of the VP I want to launch.

 

 

P.S.  Since its only single-threaded this is the performance I get on ONE CORE.