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[koadic]

Are you saying I should abandon 2008?

[fuzzel]

ok dll ist back with rev 766

[gtxjoe]

Minor issue with using tab to navigate text fields - appears to be present for a long time, 

 

I noticed that tabbing from one text field to another does not always select the existing value which makes editing values harder to do quickly.  For example, editing a Ramp, if I select and edit the Hit Threshold value and then use the  tab key to go to Slingshot Force, the current value is not selected.  You have to manually delete or highlight the value to change it.  However, if you go into the Color editor, using tab key works properly when tabbing through the various color fields

[Les73gTx]

ver 768 seems to be broken ... tables will not load for me ... last stable seems to be 756

 

 

thanks

[jpsalas]

ver 768 seems to be broken ... tables will not load for me ... last stable seems to be 756

 

 

thanks

 

You need the dll, SciLexer.dll, you can get it from the latest scintilla, here: http://www.scintilla...TEDownload.html just download the full executable and copy that dll to you VP folder.

[Les73gTx]

Ok will do thanks

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[koadic]

It is also available in my downloads folder with all the previous builds.

[jpsalas]

It is also available in my downloads folder with all the previous builds.

Yes, of course, I didn't saw it

[jimmyfingers]

..and is in with rev 720 

from the changelog:

 

- add additional (optional) parameters to PlaySound to set the pan and/or randomize the pitch of the played sound effect: Instead of  PlaySound "name",loopcount,volume  one can now use  PlaySound "name",loopcount,volume,pan,randompitch
  pan ranges from -1.0 (left) over 0.0 (both) to 1.0 (right)
  randompitch ranges from 0.0 (no randomization) to 1.0 (vary between half speed to double speed)
  so f.e. PlaySound "FlipperUp",0,0.5,-1.0,1.0 would play the sound not looped (0), at half the volume (0.5), only on left speaker (-1.0), with varying pitch (1.0)

Hey Toxie, love this feature but I believe there is a bit of a bug with the pan parameter.  -.5 or .5 completely removes the sound from the other speaker so maybe it's really a 1.0 setting total value with the swing to either sides of 0 being maxed at -.5 and .5.  You can check it out yourself, just load up the default table (maybe with headphones and change the flipper sounds left and right with your new code above accordingly and you'll see that if you have the pan at only .5 it is fully panned. 

 

This was using version 753 and I imagine it hasn't changed in later ones / have not tested in the latest versions.  Really great add-on / feature though and maybe it's just a documentation thing.  However, I think it would work better if there was the full range to -1 and 1 and works a bit better / simpler with some formulas and routines I'm working on but isn't a big deal to manipulate with a factor / value knowing if it's gonig to stay as is being fully panned with only -.5 or .5.

 

EDIT: And thanks fuzzel for adding that per-table alpha slider feature .  To be honest I haven't tried it yet as I haven't updated to any versions since 753 as for a couple reasons but was also waiting a bit for the dust to settle a little with this latest script / dll stuff.

Edited by jimmyfingers, 03 December 2013 - 07:19 AM.

[fuzzel]

Because some of you asked for an updated (reference)manual. I created a quick overview of all commands VP understands, I don't have much time so this is really a rough overview but it should give you some information what's usable and what not.

I attached that command reference here and added it to the repository so perhaps we can include it in the next release.

 

Attached Files

•  CommandReference.txt   16.39KB   57 downloads

[jpsalas]

Thanks fuzzel, that list is nice to have.

[unclewilly]

Thanks Fuzzel. Been waiting for a list like this.

On a side note. I didn't read the thread and downloaded the latest rev. Didn't download the news dll. I had made some changes to monster bash in the editor then opened the script editor to continue scripting. It wouldn't work. So I saved and came and looked at the thread. Because I had opened the script editor and then saved when I came back to the table I had completely lost the script.

So authors make sure you download the .dll before you save.

Thank god for autosave

[fuzzel]

You should get an error message on startup of VP if the SciLexer.dll is missing, or you have one somewhere in you path that is not compatible with VP

[toxie]

 

..and is in with rev 720 

from the changelog:

 

- add additional (optional) parameters to PlaySound to set the pan and/or randomize the pitch of the played sound effect: Instead of  PlaySound "name",loopcount,volume  one can now use  PlaySound "name",loopcount,volume,pan,randompitch
  pan ranges from -1.0 (left) over 0.0 (both) to 1.0 (right)
  randompitch ranges from 0.0 (no randomization) to 1.0 (vary between half speed to double speed)
  so f.e. PlaySound "FlipperUp",0,0.5,-1.0,1.0 would play the sound not looped (0), at half the volume (0.5), only on left speaker (-1.0), with varying pitch (1.0)

Hey Toxie, love this feature but I believe there is a bit of a bug with the pan parameter.  -.5 or .5 completely removes the sound from the other speaker so maybe it's really a 1.0 setting total value with the swing to either sides of 0 being maxed at -.5 and .5.  You can check it out yourself, just load up the default table (maybe with headphones and change the flipper sounds left and right with your new code above accordingly and you'll see that if you have the pan at only .5 it is fully panned. 

 

This was using version 753 and I imagine it hasn't changed in later ones / have not tested in the latest versions.  Really great add-on / feature though and maybe it's just a documentation thing.  However, I think it would work better if there was the full range to -1 and 1 and works a bit better / simpler with some formulas and routines I'm working on but isn't a big deal to manipulate with a factor / value knowing if it's gonig to stay as is being fully panned with only -.5 or .5.

 

The thing is that it works the same as the normal volume setting, so 0.5 doesn't mean that it is "half as loud"..

Please look at the parameters i used in the default table, this should give you an impression on what is useful..

a bit unrelated, but meanwhile i think i found the fix for the crackling sound issue (volume at max, etc) on WMS sound emulation..

i noticed some members of the pinmame team, lets see if this was really the issue or if its just luck on my machine..

 

so this is also now in the pinmame svn..

[toxie]

I attached that command reference here and added it to the repository so perhaps we can include it in the next release.

 

 

The newest version will always be here, btw: http://sourceforge.n...ndReference.txt

[toxie]

You should get an error message on startup of VP if the SciLexer.dll is missing, or you have one somewhere in you path that is not compatible with VP

 

There was actually a bug in the error popping up, fixed with rev 773

[jimmyfingers]

 

 

..and is in with rev 720 

from the changelog:

 

- add additional (optional) parameters to PlaySound to set the pan and/or randomize the pitch of the played sound effect: Instead of  PlaySound "name",loopcount,volume  one can now use  PlaySound "name",loopcount,volume,pan,randompitch
  pan ranges from -1.0 (left) over 0.0 (both) to 1.0 (right)
  randompitch ranges from 0.0 (no randomization) to 1.0 (vary between half speed to double speed)
  so f.e. PlaySound "FlipperUp",0,0.5,-1.0,1.0 would play the sound not looped (0), at half the volume (0.5), only on left speaker (-1.0), with varying pitch (1.0)

Hey Toxie, love this feature but I believe there is a bit of a bug with the pan parameter.  -.5 or .5 completely removes the sound from the other speaker so maybe it's really a 1.0 setting total value with the swing to either sides of 0 being maxed at -.5 and .5.  You can check it out yourself, just load up the default table (maybe with headphones and change the flipper sounds left and right with your new code above accordingly and you'll see that if you have the pan at only .5 it is fully panned. 

 

This was using version 753 and I imagine it hasn't changed in later ones / have not tested in the latest versions.  Really great add-on / feature though and maybe it's just a documentation thing.  However, I think it would work better if there was the full range to -1 and 1 and works a bit better / simpler with some formulas and routines I'm working on but isn't a big deal to manipulate with a factor / value knowing if it's gonig to stay as is being fully panned with only -.5 or .5.

 

The thing is that it works the same as the normal volume setting, so 0.5 doesn't mean that it is "half as loud"..

Please look at the parameters i used in the default table, this should give you an impression on what is useful..

 

 

I have reviewed those parameters in the default table and it is similar to what I've arrived at on my own, but I think maybe we're not on the same page still as to my original point as the thing I don't understand is if the paramter range is supposed to be effective over -1.0 to 1.0 (left to right respectively) why is it that at -.5 it is already fully panned to the left and at .5 it is fully panned to the right (negates the need for anything above .5 it seems and therefore the -1 + 1 listing of the parameter range does not seem practical).  I'm not really considering it an aspect of any volume qualities in general but more the absense of any signal from the opposite speaker when "fully" panned.

 

If you listen with headphones (even on the default table) on you will be able to hear that at the -/+.5 mark there is no more sound coming out of the other side.  I get that I can adjust the level down and where I might have wanted .2 I'll use .1 now, but the thing is what point is it to have a pan range to -1 and 1 if it's already panned fully to left or right at -.5 and .5 (i.e. .6 .7 .8 etc. don't seem to pan any further away from the other side than .5 already does).  Does it just make even the left or right past -.5 / .5 even quieter?  I'm a home music studio dude / musician so have lot's of experience with audio and this just doesn't make sense to me as the defintion / function stands currently. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I / anybody can still use it as is and just adjust the levels - it's truly an awesome added feature - but it seems that we would be compensating in a way for the range of effective vs. documented parameters.

Because some of you asked for an updated (reference)manual. I created a quick overview of all commands VP understands, I don't have much time so this is really a rough overview but it should give you some information what's usable and what not.

I attached that command reference here and added it to the repository so perhaps we can include it in the next release.

 

This is great but could you clarify regarding the ones that have no effect meaning whether they're just not able to change anything from within the script or do not execute anything in the script.  Reason I ask is I just recently found from trial and error the tablename.width and tablename.height values and was able to read them in the script to get their values which was extremely useful for a new routine I'm working on.  I didn't see the exact .width / .height in your list but saw some reference still to width and height but with the asterisk (that one also seemed to need the tablename.parameter style of command as well).

 

So, are those ones that have the asterisk safe to say they can still be read in but just not altered? Or maybe those will just be trial and error to see which ones can while some others do nothing at all.

[koadic]

the ones marked with an asterisk cannot be set from the script, but you should be able to grab the current values from the script.

[chas]

i DLd all 4

 

command ref

scilexer.dll

wscite.336

scite.336

 

>>You need the dll, SciLexer.dll, you can get it from the latest scintilla, here: http://www.scintilla...TEDownload.html just download the full executable and copy that dll to you VP folder.<<<<<

extract and copy paste to which vp table folder or all vp table folders?

 

[toxie]

Actually you only need scilexer.DLL and put it into the same folder as vpinball.exe