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[Deep Stuff]

Hi there,

Anyone managed to rotate Batman - DE - LH FS - V01 DMD's by script ?

Here is the script:

CODE

    With Controller
                .GameName = cGameName
                .SplashInfoLine = "Batman, Data East 1991" & vbNewLine & "VPM table and script by Lord Hiryu"
                .HandleMechanics = 0
                .HandleKeyboard = 0
                .ShowDMDOnly = 1
                .ShowFrame = 0
                .ShowTitle = 0
                .Hidden = 0
        
         'DMD position and size 1400x1050
                '.Games(cGameName).Settings.Value("dmd_pos_x") = 500
                '.Games(cGameName).Settings.Value("dmd_pos_y") = 2
                '.Games(cGameName).Settings.Value("dmd_width") = 400
                '.Games(cGameName).Settings.Value("dmd_height") = 92
                '.Games(cGameName).Settings.Value("rol") = 0
                If Err Then MsgBox Err.Description
            End With

As you can see the line is already there, is correct, and is commented. I uncommented it and have put the value at 1 but no change (of course I compile, save, and reload table).

I have even tried with ror, with both, and even any combination of 0 and 1 values. But no, nothing never changes

I have Batman DE LH as follows:

'DMD position and size 1400x1050
.Games(cGameName).Settings.Value("dmd_pos_x") = 1580
.Games(cGameName).Settings.Value("dmd_pos_y") = 265
.Games(cGameName).Settings.Value("dmd_width") = 101
.Games(cGameName).Settings.Value("dmd_height") = 518
.Games(cGameName).Settings.Value("rol") = 1
If Err Then MsgBox Err.Description
End With

Which you've already tried the "rol" setting. Have you tried to also change it with regedit to rol = 1 and ror = 0

[neelrocker]

Hi Deep,

Thanks for your answer. I have just tryied copying your lines, just in case, but it is still vertical.
Using the registry was just what I wanted to avoid (having the rotation defined in file is just easier if I reinstall, or install on a friend computer) but I will use this as a workaround if this is the only solution for those tables.

Now I like to understand, so if someone knows why it does not work using the script method with those 2 tables, I would be glad to know
Btw Deep, do you have to use registry too for this Batman table ? or your lines in the script are enough to do it ?

Anyway, registry method works for me with this Batman table (and for Back to the Future too).

[yogiholzer]

Please don't be annoyed with me here anyone, but I think this thread wasn't as long as it is now, if I was able to translate and phrase things better than I did from the beginning and if people would really read and follow the advices in this thread and didn't always recommend to change the table script again and again in this or that direction when it was already clear that it doesn't work, because there's already a differing registry entry that keeps DMD from rotating.

It seems, that, if a registry entry for a table/rom is already there once, you can't use the table script method anymore to change it. I still didn't try, but if you want to check, you can delete the registry entry of a table/rom, then change the table script to your needs and then verify. It most probably should work.

Maybe it's different between XP, Vista and 7.

Why is this? I don't know!

[neelrocker]

It seems, that, if a registry entry for a table/rom is already there once, you can't use the table script method anymore to change it. I still didn't try, but if you want to check, you can delete the registry entry of a table/rom, then change the table script to your needs and then verify. It most probably should work.

Probably, yes. But it would just have no sense hehe. If you have to delete the entry in the registry to be able to use the script method, then it is easier to just change the entry value directly

Considering most of the tables do not have the reg entry, the script method sounds just more user-friendly at the moment. Now as it seems it is just a few tables that have the reg entry, it is not a huge issue. I just hope table makers will stick with the "no reg entry" way for their upcoming table, or it would become more a mess.

Or if the reg way could work with every table, then it could be the default way to go and be user-friendly as table-makers could just provide 3 reg files to double clic: one for no rotation and one for rotate left and another for right. And by combining all those in one unique reg file we could set the rotation for our full table collection by one double click.

[yogiholzer]

Probably, yes. But it would just have no sense hehe. If you have to delete the entry in the registry to be able to use the script method, then it is easier to just change the entry value directly

No sense? I meant to verify the (my) statement. If and when verified, you could change the table scripts and save the tables with the changed script. At the next reinstallation or installation on a friends computer you wouldn't have to change the table script again and maybe even avoid to change the registry, in case you run a table once before the table script is adjusted.

Considering most of the tables do not have the reg entry, the script method sounds just more user-friendly at the moment. Now as it seems it is just a few tables that have the reg entry, it is not a huge issue. I just hope table makers will stick with the "no reg entry" way for their upcoming table, or it would become more a mess.

Not only a few tables, but each Visual PinMAME table creates a registry entry.

Or if the reg way could work with every table, then it could be the default way to go and be user-friendly as table-makers could just provide 3 reg files to double clic: one for no rotation and one for rotate left and another for right. And by combining all those in one unique reg file we could set the rotation for our full table collection by one double click.

Each Visual PinMAME table creates a registry entry. Each of the registry entries is named after the rom that is used. If the registry entry can be changed by using a separate additional *.reg file (still not tested/can eventually fail, as the 'change table script method' apparently often/mostly/always (?) fails too) the method you suggest could work. But that would mean a lot of additional work which probably none is willing to do.

Edited by yogiholzer, 11 January 2011 - 06:15 PM.

[neelrocker]

No sense? I meant to verify the (my) statement. If and when verified, you could change the table scripts and save the tables with the changed script. At the next reinstallation or installation on a friends computer you wouldn't have to change the table script again and maybe even avoid to change the registry, in case you run a table once before the table script is adjusted.

I am not sure to understand what you are saying here

Not only a few tables, but each Visual PinMAME table creates a registry entry.

Each Visual PinMAME table creates a registry entry. Each of the registry entries is named after the rom that is used. If the registry entry can be changed by using a separate additional *.reg file (still not tested/can eventually fail, as the 'change table script method' apparently often/mostly/always (?) fails too) the method you suggest could work. But that would mean a lot of additional work which probably none is willing to do.

I was talking about the rotate part of the reg entry. As it always overrides the script setting (correct me if I am wrong), according to the test I have done so far it seems most FS tables do not have this "rotation reg entry", as most of my attemps to rotate the DMD by modifying the script are successful (of course you have to figure out how to modify the script. It seems I understand it well now, even if I am not used to those pinball script at all). Now those test I have done only concern a small part of the whole database of available tables, so maybe my statement that most DMD can be successfuly rotated by script is not true if you consider the entire database.

[luvthatapex]

I just checked my copy and this works for me:
.Games(cGameName).Settings.Value("rol") = 0

[neelrocker]

For which one, Batman or BTTF ?

[B2K24]

Why oh Why must one do this for EVERY single ROM in the Registry?
Why can't pinMAME read ROR or ROL from the Default directory in the registry?
Having to imput this for every rom is a pain.

How about adding an ability to rotate the window 90 degrees with a key press on the keyboard. I think that would be great.

///// /me pokes Destruk

[DedRok_V]

I dont think its too much of a pain to go into regs / scripts to change simple things for ourselves,
considering the amount of time the table authors put in to building what we get to use. (for free)

It would be ideal not to have to, but we do.

[B2K24]

I realize your point, but there must be an easier way.

[yogiholzer]

No sense? I meant to verify the (my) statement. If and when verified, you could change the table scripts and save the tables with the changed script. At the next reinstallation or installation on a friends computer you wouldn't have to change the table script again and maybe even avoid to change the registry, in case you run a table once before the table script is adjusted.

I am not sure to understand what you are saying here

Not only a few tables, but each Visual PinMAME table creates a registry entry.

Each Visual PinMAME table creates a registry entry. Each of the registry entries is named after the rom that is used. If the registry entry can be changed by using a separate additional *.reg file (still not tested/can eventually fail, as the 'change table script method' apparently often/mostly/always (?) fails too) the method you suggest could work. But that would mean a lot of additional work which probably none is willing to do.

I was talking about the rotate part of the reg entry. As it always overrides the script setting (correct me if I am wrong), according to the test I have done so far it seems most FS tables do not have this "rotation reg entry", as most of my attemps to rotate the DMD by modifying the script are successful (of course you have to figure out how to modify the script. It seems I understand it well now, even if I am not used to those pinball script at all). Now those test I have done only concern a small part of the whole database of available tables, so maybe my statement that most DMD can be successfuly rotated by script is not true if you consider the entire database.

I will try to rephrase soon, maybe tomorrow. It's too late here now. English isn't my first language.

[yogiholzer]

Sorry, I didn't have the spirit to read/translate/reply here lately. Please let me know if it's still required. Else I refrain from that.

[hassanchop]

I tried with twilight zone FS and Simpsons Pinball party FS and it worked with the second option: Change the Windows registry

didn't have to touch the scrip, just adjust the dmd size with the dmd border "on"

[yogiholzer]

Some offtopic, but who cares? I started the thread, or? I've never heard from your country before. I was curious about so I used Wikipedia to get some information. Welcome to VPF!

[hassanchop]

it was a mistake! and now i don't know how to change the flag hahahaha

i realy don't know where this flag is

i'm in Portugal

[yogiholzer]

If you want to change, log in and click on "My Controls" above the latest posts on the right. Then chose "Edit Profile Information" under "Personal Profile" on the left.
It's the last entry there "National Flag".

[hassanchop]

If you want to change, log in and click on "My Controls" above the latest posts on the right. Then chose "Edit Profile Information" under "Personal Profile" on the left.
It's the last entry there "National Flag".

done.

Portugal's flag is much more pretty than Belize's hehehehehe

Edited by hassanchop, 18 March 2011 - 11:52 PM.

[jdsabin1]

Have you guys used the 'SetDMD' program yet? It works great!

http://www.hyperspin...ighlight=setdmd

Anyway, I do have a related question. ROL is the entry that is supposed to contain a value of 1 in the registry. I have had to also change the value of ROR to 1 in order to display the DMD correctly. Anyone know why both would need to be 1? Just curious.

Thanks.

[yogiholzer]

I'm not that familiar with the settings anymore, because I didn't play any VP/VPM table for long. Maybe there's a rotating command in the table script that says ROL=2 ? Or you use FS tables to play on 4:3 monitor? What else? Probably depends on your individual needs. Who knows?