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[Slydog43]

wow can't wait for a fs version once again.  Like watching this project come together. Good luck.   Thanks

[Scorp.ius]

yes FS ftw!

 

I installed VP991 on my desktop pc just to try the 3.71 LOTR XL Titanium looks nice but you hardly see any details, when used to play on and compared to a cab

[pincade]

Is it me or the graphic seems to be "harsh"  and jagged?

I've disabled AA but specially in the higher part of playfield I cannot distinguish ramps from playfield.

 

AA=1

Vsync=1

Force Anisotroping filter texture=1

[baloo42]

wow can't wait for a fs version once again.  Like watching this project come together. Good luck.   Thanks

 

Hey hey Slydog, thanks pal! i want to give you guys that FS version soon. i need to make sure i'm giving you guys the best before i do it, hopefully not too long

i'm glad you're watching!

 

yes FS ftw!

 

I installed VP991 on my desktop pc just to try the 3.71 LOTR XL Titanium looks nice but you hardly see any details, when used to play on and compared to a cab

 

Thanks Scorpius. Yes, this is currently tailored to the players requesting a taller view for the table. it's best played on a TV-size HD monitor, the detail is very small because of the perspective.

i want to bring out two different desktop views to accommodate for all players. One will have a much wider view.

Also, i over-killed the lights, and lost all focal points. i'll be re-releasing this soon, i'm not happy with the results. FS is coming

Edited by baloo42, 02 May 2015 - 05:59 PM.

[baloo42]

Is it me or the graphic seems to be "harsh"  and jagged?

I've disabled AA but specially in the higher part of playfield I cannot distinguish ramps from playfield.

 

AA=1

Vsync=1

Force Anisotroping filter texture=1

 

Thank you for noting it pincade, i will be improving the ramps

 

Here are the optimal video settings to my knowledge:

Edited by baloo42, 02 May 2015 - 05:57 PM.

[pincade]

Ok, tried various settings:

with FSAA activated contours is a little bit less jagged, you made many progress since first screenshot but there's a sense of general confusion, I think for the lack of fake "Shadowed parts"

Just to make an example: is like an image made without layers that would give a sense of deep.

If you adjust this could be a great table, even if static

Edited by pincade, 02 May 2015 - 06:13 PM.

[baloo42]

Ok, tried various settings:

with FSAA activated contours is a little bit less jagged, you made many progress since first screenshot but there's a sense of general confusion, I think for the lack of fake "Shadowed parts"

Just to make an example: is like an image made without layers that would give a sense of deep.

If you adjust this could be a great table, even if static

 

Thanks for that, yes i was over-tired when releasing XL.

The gold ramps are definitely a problem on my part, it's not your video settings.

Confusion is the word, yes too many lights, not enough ambient shadows. I gave you nowhere for your eyes to focus.

This is the look i had, which i'll be going back to:

 

Shadows are the key!

Edited by baloo42, 02 May 2015 - 06:38 PM.

[baloo42]

Breaking news! i was going through all the image dimensions for the Playfield and Light insert graphics. And i made a fantastic discovery! This is the level of detail we can now achieve at the far reaches of the table.

 

    

 

a bunch of new hi-rez graphics that will be going into the table: (with thanks to Vampiro for assisting me here)

 

shots of real-life tables to help me grasp the final look:

 

it will be sometime before we have a next release, this next one will be BIG! stay tuned

 

These are the new graphics for all the ball-stoppers that were featured from LOTR v3.6.5 up

Edited by baloo42, 03 May 2015 - 02:59 PM.

[baloo42]

Okay, now this is SOMETHING!

i had this idea last night. Pincade mentioned that the table was static, which is true. So i was pondering it a lot, and i came to a method to be able to turn the lights inside the wall constructsas well as the light reflections across the playfield, into blinking lights. Just as you would have the light inserts change between their four levels of light. Now this was all great in theory, but i had a problem where the detail was just not enough to replace the playfield graphic.

 

BUT NOW! as shown in the above-post, having made light inserts and playfield graphics both increase at the same resolution (and a good one at that). i will now be able to animate giant-size segments of the playfield graphic, and by doing that, bringing the whole table to life (making it 'un-static'). This and the Balrog animation will have been my two greatest feats.

Just you wait and see!

Edited by baloo42, 03 May 2015 - 04:08 PM.

[jpsalas]

You know you can get that kind of lighting using the new lights in VP10?

[baloo42]

You know you can get that kind of lighting using the new lights in VP10?

 

Yes, very true JP, and thank-you for understanding the process. However Lord of the Rings is in VP9, i don't know how else to go about it. but i can certainly give it my best

i appreciate everything from you JP, i have something new and exciting to send to you tomorrow.

Edited by baloo42, 03 May 2015 - 10:17 PM.

[Toxy]

Once again Baloo I can't wait.

 

I will be hammering the full screen version when it gets a release.

 

Keep up the astounding work mate

[baloo42]

Once again Baloo I can't wait.

 

I will be hammering the full screen version when it gets a release.

 

Keep up the astounding work mate

 

Hahah, thanks Toxy. Now you've given me the inspiration to go the full mile!

 

You had better go ahead and place an order for your replacement cab parts right now xD

 

Cheers mate!

Edited by baloo42, 03 May 2015 - 10:20 PM.

[waspstar]

Great work so far,baloo42. Will be fun to watch your version of lotr develop even further.

 

Love your enthusiasm and speed on this build. It is really admirable. Sounds like you are having a blast with this one. Keep it up.

 

Cheers! 

[mpad]

Uh nice nice nice.
Has anyone already desired the one ring called physmod5?

[baloo42]

Hooray! The download pages for LOTR are up again on VPForums,

Here are the shots for all the latest available versions:

http://www.vpforums....&showfile=10864

 

There are plans to release the final LOTR table in three different distinct styles, with possibly a further Special Edition.

 

FS: Note to cab-owners

i am currently working on a process to accommodate for all users.

by this coming weekend, i will have a new table for you.

Edited by baloo42, 04 May 2015 - 10:42 PM.

[baloo42]

Great work so far,baloo42. Will be fun to watch your version of lotr develop even further.

 

Love your enthusiasm and speed on this build. It is really admirable. Sounds like you are having a blast with this one. Keep it up.

 

Cheers! 

 

Much Thanks Waspstar! We're going to take this table to the stars

Wait until we have Balrog stepping out of the shadows into the light, all blazing in fire. i can just see it now!

i have to admit, making these graphics is a real challenge, but i guess i'm one who likes challenges.

 

i'll keep giving it my best. (i just need a good hot cup of Kronung coffee now xD)

With thanks to all the great support, and the valued remarks, we can make anything happen.

Uh nice nice nice.
Has anyone already desired the one ring called physmod5?

 

Yes, JPSalas has graciously given us permission to mod the table.

i would happily welcome anyone on-board the project, whether it be a 'physmod5' or a new 'sound rom'.

Please PM me if you would like to assist.

Edited by baloo42, 04 May 2015 - 10:38 PM.

[bolt]

Great News.

[baloo42]

Great News.

 

Much appreciated Bolt! Always good to hear from you.

Edited by baloo42, 05 May 2015 - 02:10 PM.

[baloo42]

What is going on behind the curtains on LOTR: Currently re-creating all Plastics for the table.

 

This is necessary for the new FS-conversion process. And because i am going to have to create most for the new table-graphics a 2nd time, i'm sure-as-hell going to give everything a full 110% this time-around! Thankfully Queen's lyrics will give me the go on this,  

 

Below: building new 3D constructs using multiple reference photos.

bottom: damaged reference image, (what i want it to look like)

middle [exploded view]: cutouts from various sourced photos, color patches to remedy pixelation and unwanted visual artifacts.

top: is the current WIP

 

 

3D-object illusions, by using graphics on a 2D-surface:

 

bottom image: At the top of the slingshots, two bolts are looking like they had one too many ... . But actually this is correct.

top image: The red radial lines are really the true 'vertical' lines.

 

 

finished wip result:

 

 

lighting the way:

here is a real fine problem i just faced, the new slingshots look great in their final positions.

but how do i get the color we want from the real table? we have the graphic with all it's detail, but we need to somehow light it up ...

trust me when i say this is no easy task, i'm am using extensive set of my own custom-made color&light filters. the same ones which i use to make your gold and metals shine the way they do.)

 

looks good, time to move on to the next challenge

 

Today i got the wall tops animating. lots of work has been done and new things added.

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

my mistake, this the Queen song i was thinking about, "Break-Free"!

 

Getting back to more boring photoshop guides:

a damaged photograph of Freddy.M, what is this???

Oh no, no!, we really need to go and fix this! This could ruin my whole childhood!

 

Ahhh yes! it looks like our Freddy.M just got some Photoshop special-care!

'Fasten your seatbelts as we prepare you for the LOTR flight. Our hostess(s) will be bringing you refreshments shortly.'

everything is better in threes!

~baloo42

Edited by baloo42, 06 May 2015 - 07:28 PM.