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[Flying Dutchman]

Ok most important thing .. I got my DMD back!
Latest (Rosve's) FPLaunch loaded.

Still .. no Backglass image (see examples Ghostbusters_B2S & Scared_Stiff_B2S).

Cheers,
FD.




Cheers,
FD.

I wonder if it is the hideDesktop parameter in the FPLaunch script that is causing this?
Try with the hideDesktop = false

CODE

hideDesktop     = true        ;Attempts to hide desktop with black screen, might help
                              ;on some emu's for hiding launching windows.

Thanks rosve .. adjusting the hideDesktop unfortunately did not work..
I think it has to do with the fact that my 1st (32-bit) and 2nd (16-bit) screen are both running 1920 x 1080 .. so I'll try & lower the res for the 2nd one tomorrow ..

Thanks again!

Cheers,
FD.

[bladexdsl]

i'm using FPLaunch1.295wip3 and everything is named correctly but the bg just refuses to show.

Just out of curiosity - what happens if you delete screenres.txt and double click the .exe? It should give you an error saying screenres.txt not found but allow you to continue - just wondering whether you get an image on one of the 3 screens somewhere. You could also try changing your screenres.txt to point to a different monitor (try 1, then 2, then 3) and see if it appears on any of your screens when you double-click. At least that should confirm that .net 4 is installed correctly.

i got the error and i couldn't get it to appear on any other screens but it is running i can see it in the task bar. my suspicion is it doesn't like windows 7 64bit.

[bbastyr]

i'm using FPLaunch1.295wip3 and everything is named correctly but the bg just refuses to show.

Just out of curiosity - what happens if you delete screenres.txt and double click the .exe? It should give you an error saying screenres.txt not found but allow you to continue - just wondering whether you get an image on one of the 3 screens somewhere. You could also try changing your screenres.txt to point to a different monitor (try 1, then 2, then 3) and see if it appears on any of your screens when you double-click. At least that should confirm that .net 4 is installed correctly.

i got the error and i couldn't get it to appear on any other screens but it is running i can see it in the task bar. my suspicion is it doesn't like windows 7 64bit.

I have Win7, 64bit, and it works fine. I only use 2 monitors, though.

[Arcade4]

i'm using FPLaunch1.295wip3 and everything is named correctly but the bg just refuses to show.

Just out of curiosity - what happens if you delete screenres.txt and double click the .exe? It should give you an error saying screenres.txt not found but allow you to continue - just wondering whether you get an image on one of the 3 screens somewhere. You could also try changing your screenres.txt to point to a different monitor (try 1, then 2, then 3) and see if it appears on any of your screens when you double-click. At least that should confirm that .net 4 is installed correctly.

i got the error and i couldn't get it to appear on any other screens but it is running i can see it in the task bar. my suspicion is it doesn't like windows 7 64bit.

I have Win7, 64bit, and it works fine. I only use 2 monitors, though.

Same here. Windows 7 64 bit and only two monitors. Works great. Has to be the 3 monitor setup.

[bladexdsl]

o well i'll just wait patiently for a fix

[Wm29671]

I just got back in from vacation and installed this straight away. Looks great but I am having trouble with the spider not being synced up. What it stops on is not matching what it should be - for instance it will stop on the crystal ball and the game thinks it stops on the laboratory. The spider on the apron appears to continue to work correctly but it doesn't match the backglass spider.
Sorry if this has been addressed but I seem to be missing the solution if it has been discussed. Thanks!

Edited by Wm29671, 22 September 2011 - 03:06 AM.

[Blackmoor]

I just set that line to false in the table script and all I got was the static backglass. I am using a modified FPlaunch.exe for my cab. Is there a certain version I should be using?

Thanks!
Blackmoor

I have a 3 screen setup and it works fine. I'll share any particulars of my setup, just ask.

I do have a concern when used with Hyperpin, the backglass never goes away when I exit the table!

Blackmoor

Dedrok_V: Yes, it used to work for me .. not any more .. DotNetFramework installed, I'll try the 'double clicking' later. Thanks!
Darkfall: Yes, could well be a 3-screen hickup. No error messages (hidden), Table starts and is playable + DMD appears on 3rd screen as normal.

Rosve pointed me on to clean my ScreenRes file which I did & will try in a minute.

Is there anyone that got it going in a 3-screen setup?

Cheers,
FD.

Did you set the LaunchBackGlass to False in the script. This should be done when launching the Table from HP.

'***********************************************************
'On Error Resume Next
LaunchBackGlass "ScaredStiff_FS_B2S",False 'True=Launch bg , False=Don't launch bg.

'************************************************************


OR, Press Esc key again to kill the backglass.

You need one of the latest FPLaunch versions. I'm using my own modified FPLaunch. I don't know where to find the official FPLaunch. Probably over at the HyperSpin Forum. I guess someone else here knows better than me.

I just added a single line to my FPLaunch.ahk at the right spot in CloseVP and recompiled it:

WinKill, Form1

Everything works fine now for Scared Stiff and Bad Cats.

Many Thanks rosve!

Blackmoor

[Darkfall]

i'm using FPLaunch1.295wip3 and everything is named correctly but the bg just refuses to show.

Just out of curiosity - what happens if you delete screenres.txt and double click the .exe? It should give you an error saying screenres.txt not found but allow you to continue - just wondering whether you get an image on one of the 3 screens somewhere. You could also try changing your screenres.txt to point to a different monitor (try 1, then 2, then 3) and see if it appears on any of your screens when you double-click. At least that should confirm that .net 4 is installed correctly.

i got the error and i couldn't get it to appear on any other screens but it is running i can see it in the task bar. my suspicion is it doesn't like windows 7 64bit.

I am using Windows 7 x64, and have no problems with it. Windows isn't the source of the problem.

[bladexdsl]

i tried the 2 screen setup exe it still wouldnt show up

[mikef]

i tried the 2 screen setup exe it still wouldnt show up

Are you (and FD) both running 16-bit for your backglass? I'm running 32-bit on both. And is backglass and playfield on the same card? What happens if you set same res and 32-bit on playfield and backglass and try? I know - I'm clutching at straws now but I'm running out of ideas....

[bladexdsl]

tried changing it to 32bit no effect.

my pf is on card 1 and bg and dmd on card 2 it's not possible to change this on my cab.

pf is screen 1
bg screen 2
dmd 3

[Flying Dutchman]

i'm using FPLaunch1.295wip3 and everything is named correctly but the bg just refuses to show.

Just out of curiosity - what happens if you delete screenres.txt and double click the .exe? It should give you an error saying screenres.txt not found but allow you to continue - just wondering whether you get an image on one of the 3 screens somewhere. You could also try changing your screenres.txt to point to a different monitor (try 1, then 2, then 3) and see if it appears on any of your screens when you double-click. At least that should confirm that .net 4 is installed correctly.

i got the error and i couldn't get it to appear on any other screens but it is running i can see it in the task bar. my suspicion is it doesn't like windows 7 64bit.

I am using Windows 7 x64, and have no problems with it. Windows isn't the source of the problem.

Thanks Darkfall .. You're using Win7 64-bit in a 2-screen setup if I'm not mistaken?

So could be the Win7 64-bit 3 screen setup that's causing the issue?
I'll try the 32-bit on screen 1 (PF - Graph Card 1), 32-bit on screen 2 (BG - Graph Card 2) and 16-bit on screen 3 (DMD - Graph Card 2).

The B2S all used to work fine everything previous Scared Stiff.

Could it has something to do with the update to the new B2S for screen resizing / positioning??
Here's the settings in my ScreenRes.txt:

1920
1080
1920
1080
2
0
0

Thanks for all the feedback!

Cheers,
FD.

Edited by Flying Dutchman, 22 September 2011 - 06:51 AM.

[Darkfall]

Thanks Darkfall .. You're using Win7 64-bit in a 2-screen setup if I'm not mistaken?

Yes, I'm running dual screens at 1920 x 1080 x 32 bit, with one screen rotated 90 degrees in the video card software (since my backglass display is turned sideways). All running on Windows 7 x64 via a single ATI video card.

So could be the Win7 64-bit 3 screen setup that's causing the issue?
I'll try the 32-bit on screen 1 (PF - Graph Card 1), 32-bit on screen 2 (BG - Graph Card 2) and 16-bit on screen 3 (DMD - Graph Card 2).

The B2S all used to work fine everything previous Scared Stiff.

It does seem to be the 3 screen setup that is causing grief for some people. The screenshots you posted imply that the B2S stuff is working as it should, but the backglass image isn't there - as though it didn't load it (couldn't find it, maybe?) or it's being positioned incorrectly - but your reels are there in one of the screenshots, so B2S is alive. It's rather odd.

Could it has something to do with the update to the new B2S for screen resizing / positioning??
Here's the settings in my ScreenRes.txt:

1920
1080
1920
1080
2
0
0

That ScreenRes.txt looks right to me. It's nearly identical to what I have, except I have my resolution swapped for the backglass display due to me rotating the display - so mine is 1080 x 1920 - but yours isn't rotated, so the settings you listed should be right.

I assume that running the backglass executable with everything else shut down results in the same issue? If you run the ScaredStiff_FS_B2S.exe file by itself, you should see the backglass come up - if it doesn't, then something with the executable is at fault, and we can eliminate VP and HyperPin from the equation. If it does come up, then try running VP and loading the table and see if the backglass comes up then...If we go step by step, we might be able to nail down what changes cause things to stop working and then focus there.

I'm sure this isn't the issue, but the executable's filename is hard coded into the table script. If you rename it, you need to change it in the table script, too. I'm sure this isn't your issue, since you'd be seeing an error about not being able to load the backglass executable, if the filename was wrong. I just mention it because I initially renamed the files and ran into the problem myself, and ended up editing the table script to get the filenames I wanted *grin*.

Edited by Darkfall, 22 September 2011 - 09:37 AM.

[DedRok_V]

You can rename the files if using FPLaunch WIP 4 to run the BG , as in = false
but not if only using VP to run it , as in = true

But both instances have to end in B2S

[rosve]

FD and blade,

Could you copy this exe to your table directory and run it. It will generate a log file called B2SLOG.TXT in the same directory.

Post the log here so I can check it. Hopefully it can give me an idea what's going on.

B2S Debug

[bladexdsl]

heres my log

"1024"," Screen2ResX"
"768"," Screen2ResY"
"0"," Screen2PosX"
"0"," Screen2PosY"
"\\.\DISPLAY2"," displayname"
"------------------------------------------------"
"\\.\DISPLAY1"," First screen"
"\\.\DISPLAY3"," Second screen"
"\\.\DISPLAY4"," Third screen"
"------------------------------------------------"
"\\.\DISPLAY4"," Selected screen"
0," Working Area Top"
768," Working Area Bottom"
1920," Working Area Left"
2944," Working Area Right"

[rosve]

heres my log

"1024"," Screen2ResX"
"768"," Screen2ResY"
"0"," Screen2PosX"
"0"," Screen2PosY"
"\\.\DISPLAY2"," displayname"
"------------------------------------------------"
"\\.\DISPLAY1"," First screen"
"\\.\DISPLAY3"," Second screen"
"\\.\DISPLAY4"," Third screen"
"------------------------------------------------"
"\\.\DISPLAY4"," Selected screen"
0," Working Area Top"
768," Working Area Bottom"
1920," Working Area Left"
2944," Working Area Right"

OK, Your display setup looks really strange.
You have set the backglass to display on Display2. Problem is that you do not have a Display2 so B2S automatically takes the last display in the list --> 4.

In your display list are 1, 3 and 4

It look like windows think that you have a screen 4 with an Xoffset of 1920, with is of course outside the visible area.
Never seen this before. Must be something in your graphis card setup.


Edit:
Come to think about it, Do you have 4 displays defined?
B2S only checks the 3 first screens in the display list and maybe your screen2 is in the fourth place in the list and is ignored.

Edited by rosve, 22 September 2011 - 11:35 AM.

[bladexdsl]

no i only have 3 and when i use the display screen number the playfield is 1, bg 2 and dmd 3 so their all set up correctly so i dunno the bg and dmd display properly in normal tables?

Edited by bladexdsl, 22 September 2011 - 12:14 PM.

[DedRok_V]

no i only have 3 and when i use the display screen number the playfield is 1, bg 2 and dmd 3 so their all set up correctly so i dunno the bg and dmd display properly in normal tables?

How do you have your displays defined when you run the pinmame exe? Are they set as default.
In windows it will still show 1,2,3.

[rosve]

no i only have 3 and when i use the display screen number the playfield is 1, bg 2 and dmd 3 so their all set up correctly so i dunno the bg and dmd display properly in normal tables?

My log is displaying the Windows display list. It shows the screens from left to right and your setup is: screen1,screen3,screen4.
Funny thing is that screen 4 is positioned where screen3 should be according to the list.