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[Bushav]

GTXJoe,

I am modifying the scripts as per your excellent list. Many of the pins in the list do not have lock bar buttons originally. I was dutifully updating my scripts and when I reached Batman Forever I realized that the list isnt necessarily mimicking real pins.

Are you guys listing games with lock bar buttons and games with launch buttons to accommodate users with only plungers? Im just trying to rationalize if I want to modify all the scripts since Ive got a plunger and a launch button. Also, is the plan to modify DOF configuration on ALL the scripts you list in your modifications? EDIT: I just reviewed the DOF configurations and see that you guys have indeed modified all the listed tables. Thanks.

This mod is working great for me. A few of the scripts take a little head scratching but you have made it real easy to perform.

Edited by Bushav, 04 August 2021 - 01:20 AM.

[gtxjoe]

There are only about a dozen tables that originally have a lockdown fire button.

Yes, I added fire button support to all tables that have a Launch button. I do have a launch button but I wanted more use out of the fire button. That gets us to 77 tables.

If you want to limit it to tables that really have a fire button, we could ask arngrim to create an Authentic RGB fire button DOF entry and just set up the 12 or so games

Edited by gtxjoe, 04 August 2021 - 03:56 AM.

[Bushav]

There are only about a dozen tables that originally have a lockdown fire button.

Yes, I added fire button support to all tables that have a Launch button. I do have a launch button but I wanted more use out of the fire button. That gets us to 77 tables.

If you want to limit it to tables that really have a fire button, we could ask arngrim to create an Authentic RGB fire button DOF entry and just set up the 12 or so games

No need. I like your approach. Thanks.

[Bushav]

Will one of you guys test Batman Forever (Data East) and see if the lock bar button script modification is working on your cabinet please?

 

My button is not working with Batman Forever.   I am using the latest MOD version but it uses the same script as the Bigus Mod which most likely uses the same script as the early VPX conversion.  I added the suggested lines as per post one.  I even tried copy and pasting the plungerkey lines and editing.  Nothing is working.  DOF is lighting up the button but button is not working.

 

This table is strange in that if you press both flipper keys it will launch the ball or you can press the launch button and it will launch the ball.  The same is for the bat wing cannon which is what I really want the button to activate.

[gtxjoe]

Batman Forever worked fine for me with this

Sub BF_KeyDown(ByVal keycode)
    If keycode = LeftFlipperKey  Then Controller.Switch(63) = True
    If keycode = RightFlipperKey Then Controller.Switch(64) = True
    If KeyDownHandler(keycode) Then Exit Sub
    If keycode=PlungerKey Then
        Controller.Switch(49)  = 1          'Auto Launch
    End if
    If keycode=LockBarKey Then Controller.Switch(49)  = 1
End Sub

Sub BF_KeyUp(ByVal keycode)
    If keycode = LeftFlipperKey  Then Controller.Switch(63) = False
    If keycode = RightFlipperKey Then Controller.Switch(64) = False
    If KeyUpHandler(keycode) Then Exit Sub
    If keycode=PlungerKey Then
        Controller.Switch(49)  = 0          'Auto Launch
    End if
    If keycode=LockBarKey Then Controller.Switch(49)  = 0
End Sub

[Bushav]

Ahhh, I had the "End if" in the wrong spot.

 

Thanks

[Snwfrd38]

I just installed a transparent button with a RGB ledstrip under the lockbar and it works really well. The strip is connected (thru an ULM at 12v) to the KL25z on 3 PWM ports.
I however realized that the ACDC controlled RGB lockbar is very dimmed. On Gateaway highspeed 2 the color is way more vivid and when testing on pinscape tool all colors are working as planned. It just the ACDC table (acd170h rom). Do you have the same ?

[gtxjoe]

AC/DC fire button color is controlled by the stern rom: @rgbsplit@ L59|L60|L61
So the rom is picking the color and intensity

Getaway color is not controlled by the rom
and its forced to a bright amber color: L58 Amber

Edited by gtxjoe, 21 August 2021 - 09:55 PM.

[Bushav]

I just installed a transparent button with a RGB ledstrip under the lockbar and it works really well. The strip is connected (thru an ULM at 12v) to the KL25z on 3 PWM ports.
I however realized that the ACDC controlled RGB lockbar is very dimmed. On Gateaway highspeed 2 the color is way more vivid and when testing on pinscape tool all colors are working as planned. It just the ACDC table (acd170h rom). Do you have the same ?

Yes, but I have noticed on real STERN pins the button is dimly lit.  SO GTXjoe has helped create a system that mimics real pins which is what I appreciate!  The good news is that now you know when you have a VIP pass and can cash it in and rock on.

Edited by Bushav, 21 August 2021 - 11:54 PM.

[Snwfrd38]

@gtxjoe Thanks for the explanation that’s what I saw in the DOF. I am only surprised It is very very dimmed (hardly noticeable) in my case - I will make a private config.

[vestaviascott]

After a hiatus for work I'm back on my build and I'm currently trying to work out the lighting for my fire button! Paul from Virtuapin built a custom Stern style lockdown bar complete with the fire button and switch for me in powder coat black. It looks fantastic. The only issue is that there is nothing lighting my fire button.

 

Since Oak Micros Mike is not currently producing the RGB flipper button boards, what are you guys using for RGB lighting for your fire buttons? Can anyone emulate Mike's design and make them available for sale here?

Edited by vestaviascott, 22 August 2021 - 11:41 PM.

[gtxjoe]

I just took two 8-9 of RGB strips and lined them up near the button to illuminate it. Maybe you can do something similar until you find a final solution

[wiesshund]

After a hiatus for work I'm back on my build and I'm currently trying to work out the lighting for my fire button! Paul from Virtuapin built a custom Stern style lockdown bar complete with the fire button and switch for me in powder coat black. It looks fantastic. The only issue is that there is nothing lighting my fire button.

 

Since Oak Micros Mike is not currently producing the RGB flipper button boards, what are you guys using for RGB lighting for your fire buttons? Can anyone emulate Mike's design and make them available for sale here?

 Jersey Jack's RGB fire buttons i see for sale

That is what is in conehead's cabinet

 

PS: there is nothing special about RGB really

 

Get 3 diodes of suitable voltage and colors
tie (what ever is common for your lamp controller, gtxjoe says it is positive for pinscape/ledwiz) together, then attach one of the 3 outputs to the positive legs
 

You can also get an RGB diodes by the bag full

 

here is an example

100pcs 5mm RGB Tri-Color (Red Green Blue Multicolor) LED Diode Lights Common Anode Water Clear 4pins Bright Lighting Bulb Lamps Electronics Components Indicator Light Emitting Diodes - - Amazon.com

here are a bunch of single color LEDs

EDGELEC 56pcs (7 Colors x 8pcs) 12 Volt LED Lights Emitting Diodes Pre Wired DC 12v 5mm LED Assorted Kit Clear Lens- White Warm-White Red Yellow Green Blue Orange Small LED Lamps - - Amazon.com

 

Some of these do and dont have resistors already

think you have to use resistors, even if you match the output voltage, if you want to be able to mix colors?
 

Edited by wiesshund, 23 August 2021 - 04:46 AM.

[gtxjoe]

Weisshund, you need to correct your post. You can connect the RGB + terminals together to the positive terminal on your power supply. You do not want to connect the negative terminals together. That wont work.

The negative terminals need to go to the individual PWM outputs of the Pinscape or Ledwiz

Edited by gtxjoe, 23 August 2021 - 03:23 AM.

[Bushav]

You also need resistors in the circuit. The red uses a different value than the B and G.

I’ve got a few of the LiteMite style aka Oak Micros style boards built up. I could possibly be talked out of one if that will work for you. I hesitate because I don’t want to get into tech support or warranty work for a $18 sale! Or like GTXJoe said. Just buy the shortest string of RGB you can find and cut a couple off to stick beside the bottom of your button. He’s posted a pic in this thread as have I.

[wiesshund]

Weisshund, you need to correct your post. You can connect the RGB + terminals together to the positive terminal on your power supply. You do not want to connect the negative terminals together. That wont work.

The negative terminals need to go to the individual PWM outputs of the Pinscape or Ledwiz

 

well, he'd want to buy a common anode RGB LED then or put all the +'s together like you said

 

might be problematic though using a jersey jacks rgb fire button then, since it is labeled red blue green and  ground

but it's supposed to work with a zebs lamp controller, hopefully it works, gonna have to find out now

 

@GTXjoe
Are all the pinscape and ledwiz derived controllers SINK switched rather than HIGH switched?

For all of the lamp circuits?

Edited by wiesshund, 23 August 2021 - 04:50 AM.

[Snwfrd38]

You can try a RGB ledstrip put directly on the lockbar receiver on the left / right side of the button and it works very nicely @vestaviasott.

I was flagging my issue for ACDC and I changedthe DOF config with a private one in order to make it brighter as it was too dimmed for my liking (L59 Red is the config line in DOF)

[Bushav]

I am very pleased to announce - - - - - -Insert drum roll please
 
With the great help and collaboration of mjr we have a pair of prototype RGB boards being fabricated.  I placed the order today.  These boards should aid in the installation of your lockbar buttons.
 
The first board uses the membrane switch as in my installation.  You will be required to install (tape) a membrane switch on your lockbar.  That switch protrudes through a hole in our RGB board so the button can press it.
The second board integrates a small micro switch (push button) on the face of the board which interacts with your lockbar button.
 
What is the advantage of these boards?  They will drop right into a Williams Widebody lockbar without any modifications to your lockbar.  The two LED's have resistors on the board and a molex connector for hookup is on the end of the boards.  This is basically the type of installation I have done except I used the LED Flipper Board by mjr which required me to grind some of my lockbar away so it would fit.  I envision you will use double sided foam tape to secure the board and provide insulation for the back side solder pads.  The three RGB connections will go to your LEDWiz or similar component, the + connection goes to a power supply.  If you have the "switch" version one of the outputs will go to your device that registers button presses and one goes to a ground block.
 
I hope you guys see a usefulness in these boards.  Give me some feedback and I will post pics when the boards come in.  They will be 1" x 2".  If you have a STERN lockbar designed for a button you may have a bracket with two screw holes for board mounting.  If that is the case please see if some modification of our boards would fit your needs.  We could design a third board that does not provide for a switch and has both LED's at one end and two drilled holes at the other end.
 
My thanks to mjr for his help and the use of his schematic.
 
Lane

Edited by Bushav, 28 August 2021 - 01:46 PM.

[Bushav]

Yesterday I noticed that VirtuaPin has added a Williams widebody lockbar to their lineup that already has a fire button and RGB board installed. If your building a cabinet from scratch this may be your simplest option.

[Noah Fentz]

Yesterday I noticed that VirtuaPin has added a Williams widebody lockbar to their lineup that already has a fire button and RGB board installed. If your building a cabinet from scratch this may be your simplest option.

Nice catch! I just added them yesterday.