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[Rajo Joey]

Thanks for the good updates. But now the A.I. has stolen my High Score. It's now at 1.1 million and I try to get it back. :-) But till now only 700.000 to 800.000.

I only play the expert-mode. In the newest version I disable the nudging for this f... A.I. ;-) So maybe I have a chance; I also don't nudge.

[3rdaxis]

This is good pinball AI. It needs to learn when not to flip.

 

Is this completely input timing or are you giving the ball vector command at any point?

Yea that is in the works, bounce pass logic is definitely needed. 

 

It's input timing on the cradle logic, vector's are used with the "flipper magic" and velocity based on the rest. 

[3rdaxis]

Thanks for the good updates. But now the A.I. has stolen my High Score. It's now at 1.1 million and I try to get it back. :-) But till now only 700.000 to 800.000.

I only play the expert-mode. In the newest version I disable the nudging for this f... A.I. ;-) So maybe I have a chance; I also don't nudge.

Lol, sorry brother, not much I can do about that;) Maybe I should put in a disclaimer explaining that the expert level will most definitely wipe out any high scores left by these feeble humans, so you should write them down;) Mine is long gone. 

Edited by 3rdaxis, 15 April 2019 - 05:06 PM.

[Slydog43]

maybe a backup of the nvram and a restore function, I will look into it.

[3rdaxis]

Firepower (Vs. A.I.) V1.0.4 update https://www.vpforums...&showfile=14051

 

• v1.0.4 Chang log:
• Added in-game UI for player vs. A.I. setup. Makes selecting what player(s) are AI quick and easy without the need for a keyboard.
• (Directions below and in script)
• Additional music and sound.

 

*Use Left /Right Flipper buttons to set up human and or computer players in game (Green Human, Red Computer). Default is as shown below.
*Once game is started selection can not be changed. Open Control Panel during game if setting needs to be double checked. ("C" key on keyboard) This key can be changed to any button under "Table Options".

*After game is over changes in selection can be made if desired without having to exit game.
*Light indicators located on the left side above apron. Example: Top light is player #1. Player #2,3,4 are A.I.

END OF LINE...

Edited by 3rdaxis, 19 April 2019 - 06:23 AM.

[Slydog43]

Incredible job, but I need to make some changes (will talk tomorrow).  Not only does one of the more life like recreations in VPX, but this ai stuff is awesome.  So much potential

[xenonph]

You might be able to use the nvoffset command so it wont overwrite old nvram (High Scores).

That is what I used for the NFL mods so you could start with your team as default team in the nvram. (And have different highscores for each team table.)

 

Maybe you could also add a variable If AI is playing game, it saves to the offset nvram.

Not sure if that is possible to change nvoffset on the fly, once the table is started, as the nvoffset command is added to the Table Init sub.

 

But just adding..

 

NVOffset (1)

 

to Table Init sub will help you from overwriting old highscores on old nvram.

So people wanting to play AI version, will have seperate nvram for it, and seperate highscores.

If they don't want there highscores getting wiped by AI, they can play version that doesn't have the AI activated, but has original nvram with their original highscore.

So they would have 2 tables, A.I. version, and non-A.I. version.

Great table!!!!

Carry on.

[vogliadicane]

The file was reported to be broken (some dB2s starting problem). Well, for me it workes without problems.

 

Anyways, the update is cool, the magna-save-change-flipper-bats-shape-and-enjoy-the-sound-and-graphics-when-doing feature is dope!

[STAT]

Thanks again

[psmiraglia]

Nothing super simple at this point, but many ideas are being hashed out.  Fun times ahead

Port a generic engine to a PI and commercialize as upgrades/mods for real tables. Stern, JPP, others may bite. Great work.
“You might be able to use the nvoffset command so it wont overwrite old nvram (High Scores).”

I use a similar technique by having the front end move Norma files before the table starts, so I essentially keep 3 Nvram files: nvram.original, nvram.ai and nvram (the latter is a copy of the appropriate one before table starts)

[senseless]

Man I missed out on this one during the initial release. Just had ablast with the latest version and am very impressed. It's so coool playin against the AI and loosing . I love the sound effect for the AI and with an already great table this is a real treat. My respect on the coding part, really impresse work guys!!

[Mark70]

Awesome! Thanks for another update 3rdaxis

[Mark70]

The new player selection is great, and so is everything else!

Imagine the A.I. Play could be build into the Editor and be used for all tables  

[3rdaxis]

The new player selection is great, and so is everything else!

Imagine the A.I. Play could be build into the Editor and be used for all tables

Slydog43 say's he is on it, lol. 

[STAT]

The new player selection is great, and so is everything else!

Imagine the A.I. Play could be build into the Editor and be used for all tables

Slydog43 say's he is on it, lol.

Then we would have a 1 TB Installation File for all the Table Logics
But - simple Flippers and Plunger "AI" ONLY would be easy ...

[3rdaxis]

So I have a question for the community. Out of all of you that had the chance to play the latest release...

*Were any of you "not" able to figure out how to navigate the U.I.?  

*If you did how obvious or evident was it on the first try?

*If it wasn't clear and you couldn't figure it out did you try and read the directions? 

 

Any suggestions or critiques are always welcome.  

 

Thanks again for all the enthusiastic and great comments. Always a pleasure. 

Edited by 3rdaxis, 30 April 2019 - 11:28 PM.

[hworths1545]

I had no problem at all navigating the UI the first time I loaded version 1.06 of the Firepower AI table.  

The reason it was so easy to navigate was the combination of red/green lights and voice feedback confirming each selection.

I would say that the ease of use of the UI is a 9 out of 10 with 1 being hardest to use and 10 being extremely easy to use.

[DGP]

Yesterday player 3 AI scored 2 million on first ball, that was fun to watch...    

 

After that I wanted to just watch the AI so I changed the script to all players computer but it does not work, it still thinks player one is human (this is on v1.06). 

 

I read the directions and figured it out, had a look at the THX caibration instruction cards even though I had already calibrated the PF display (that was a nice feature add-on). 

 

I have the pre AI Firepower table working with 3 screen (get scores on DMD) but I cannot get this AI version working in 3 screen mode, is it not currently possible or am I just missing a setting (I tried the usual B2S settings)?

 

Thanks again to all involved, this is so freaking cool. 

Edited by DGP, 01 May 2019 - 12:21 AM.

[hworths1545]

By the way, this is my favorite Visual Pinball X table to play and my go to Pinball VPX table when I want to show off my pinball machine.

[3rdaxis]

Yesterday player 3 AI scored 2 million on first ball, that was fun to watch...    

 

After that I wanted to just watch the AI so I changed the script to all players computer but it does not work, it still thinks player one is human (this is on v1.06). 

 

I read the directions and figured it out, had a look at the THX caibration instruction cards even though I had already calibrated the PF display (that was a nice feature add-on). 

 

I have the pre AI Firepower table working with 3 screen (get scores on DMD) but I cannot get this AI version working in 3 screen mode, is it not currently possible or am I just missing a setting (I tried the usual B2S settings)?

 

Thanks again to all involved, this is so freaking cool!

 

Good catch, yep you're right. It does update the PlayerStatus lights in the game so it had me fooled. But as soon as you start the game it does change back for some reason.

I figured it out, simple fix. I'll shoot out an update soon. Perfect.

Damn 2 million, most I ever saw one ball get was 1.2 mil. lol, That must have been a long game:) Maybe Legendary difficulty would be too much. 

 

Thanks for the positive and useful feedback brother:)

Edited by 3rdaxis, 01 May 2019 - 01:09 AM.