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[Thalamus]

@ post #28 in this thread. But, you need to change the targets again

Edited by Thalamus, 25 August 2018 - 05:15 PM.

[batch]

Thanks, I didn't understand I had to replace my script by yours, I thought it was just in case I wouldn't upload the revised table

 

It seems that you changed the settings of kickers sw3 and sw23, is it because they work like this on the real table ?

[Thalamus]

You mean around line 220 ?

 

https://www.diffchecker.com/MOeP5CtV

 

No. I hate kickers that are shot out the same. If you don't add some kind of randomness to them they will hit exactly the same spot each time. You can do it the way I've done it or the object method. Both work fine.

[Thalamus]

Batch. I should tell you that you can improve the sounds even more. Eg. make this for Leftflipper :

 

PlaySound SoundFX("fx_Flipperup",DOFContactors):LeftFlipper.RotateToEnd

 

PlaySoundAt SoundFX("fx_Flipperup",DOFContactors), LeftFlipper:LeftFlipper.RotateToEnd

 

Because of the updated Ballrolling and the extra subs. What I added to all those tables are the directional sound for those objects that are in collections. Then I've slowly improved about 50 with more detailed location for other objects.

[STAT]

[batch]

Thanks to Thalamus !

[StevOz]

Thanks a bunch, batch and team.

Looks great and plays a treat.

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[STAT]

There was a Problem ? Didn't notice, thanks you both

[batch]

Thalamus fixed a problem some people had with the ball in plunger lane at start

[GCS]

Ball stuck in a loop (v1.6) - Sample video:

 

https://www.dropbox....Amazon.mp4?dl=0

[batch]

I think it's normal, because there's nothing random in physics

 

Did you try nudging ?

 

Does it happen every time ?

 

If yes, try to change the Force of right bumper (Physics)

[Thalamus]

@GCS : I find that rather odd. I really hate it when VP goes into patterns. I added some randomization to those kickers. On the video, I must admit - it doesn't seem to be working for you. I can assure you it is for me.

 

You can try to experiment with this yourself though and maybe report back ?

 

In line 259 and 264 you find this :

 

bsLHole.InitSaucer sw3, 3, 43+int(rnd(1))*4, 16+int(rnd(1))*4

 

You should be able to either change the 43 ( the angle ) or the 16 - the power or even the random value. But, the odd thing is exactly that the random isn't working for you.

This is just one way of doing it. One can use the build-in stuff as well and that would just take away the random so it becomes

 

bsLHole.InitSaucer sw3, 3, 43, 16

 

and add

 

bsLHole.KickForceVar = 2

 

... the same for bsRHole

 

You haven't touched the script so it doesn't have the line "Randomize" almost at the top ? That would kind of explain it.

Edited by Thalamus, 16 February 2019 - 03:57 PM.

[GCS]

Randomize exists at the top so rnd(1) creates different random numbers between 0-1 every time it is called. But if i am not mistaken the int(rnd(1))*4 will usually result in 0 that's why the ball is getting stuck.

[Thalamus]

I see what you are saying and I agree as well. The odd thing is that I added that and didn't see repeating patterns here.

I swear I did add scatter angle to those bumpers. Or did did I fu%& up there too I wonder ?

 

I'm definitely not seeing the same as you though.

 

Does anything change if you change those lines to be eg ?

 

bsLHole.InitSaucer sw3, 3, 43+int(rnd*4)+1, 16+int(rnd*4)+1

[GCS]

By just changing 43 to 44 angle i avoided the loop. int(rnd()*4) will produce a wider ranger of numbers from 0-4, while your previous implementation almost always produced 0.

[BorgDog]

Kickers do have scatter angle built into them, but it is dependent on the game difficulty setting, which is why I always set me game difficulty at 100.

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[Thalamus]

Thank you BorgDog. I at one time knew this, but, it seems I'm getting old. Still though. I would like to know why there is a different between my install and his. On my computer(s) the ball seldom hits the bumpers the the first time, and I've never had them loop. I would have noticed my error if only it happened here.

Edited by Thalamus, 16 February 2019 - 07:40 PM.

[batch]

I haven't any loop problem either

 

Borgdog and Thalamus, could you please explain what that exactly means "but it is dependent on the game difficulty setting, which is why I always set me game difficulty at 100"

[Thalamus]

What it means is that some elements/object like the saucer will have a built-in randomization to the trajectory of the eject. If it is set to 0, it will go in the exact same pattern and that is what I added to the table script in a very poor way. GCS is correct. The math isn't correct so it will almost never do what I wanted it to. But, I didn't notice it because it looked to be working as I wanted it. He just proved that I made a bo-bo and I have to re-check that I added a bit of randomization to the bumpers too. It is a good thing to have a small amount of randomization to almost all vp objects ( except flippers - we as humans are a not able to do a perfect same shot each time ). Computers don't have much imagination if you don't tell them it is ok to have it

[batch]

I didn't know we could add randomization with VPX, is there a topic about this ?