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[dark]

I'm sure I could fit a widebody in the intended spot as I've done some preliminary measuring but the extra few inches here and there that standard would provide would make it seem less cramped (more room to stand, more room for hands on flippers).  I'm still on the fence about it since I'm worried I'll regret not going widebody since I typically go with the saying "go big or go home."  I'm still very early stages of planning the project out so I have time to think about it, these things tend to be 90% planning then 10% actual execution, always good to get it right the first time.

[Carny_Priest]

Don't think I could get a widebody through my study door. So that would be a no go. Even a standard size cab is bigger than you might think. Of course, I have a relatively small house.

[soundasleep]

If you take the headbox off and move your cab body around upright, a Widebody is really no more difficult to move around that a standard is.

[luvthatapex]

Interesting that nobody mentioned a third option - pin2k.

 

I chose this this style because it looks different than standard/widebody and I love the reflective DMD on the playfield monitor.

Mine has 5 RGB LED flashers across the back of the playfield, and the flipped 3rd monitor was perfect in conveying a LARGE DMD at the top of the playfield edge.

 

Fun stuff!

[naboodiver]

I went with the widebody because it afforded me the biggest TV's (46/32/22) without dead space in the box.   Yes I did have to route the sides a tad to get it to fit.     I am still thrilled with the way it looks and feels.   

 

The one thing I still have not done is the feedback electronics.   An electrican, I am not.    I was ok with wiring the keyboard emulator and lighting buttons but I not too sure about feedback.

 

I know quiter..

[court461]

Standard size mainly for size and room at my house.  I made my cab from scratch, so I could shorten and not have as much space as someone using the normal dimensions.  I also don't have a real cab so noone will notice.  I would love to have done a widebody, maybe one day....

[drben]

I went with standard for a few reasons: I already had a 40" TV, I planned on building from scratch so I could customise the length of the cabinet anyway and I didn't really have a place to put a pinball machine at all so I thought I shouldn't make it too big!!

[Les73gTx]

Widebody ... Bigger is better always .... right?

[greeze]

I went for a 'widebody' build (actually, slightly wider than a normal w/b) for the same reasons that a few have posted already: no 'dead space' in the cabinet as the 46" TV fills the space nicely.

 

I also am lucky enough to have the room for a full-size build so it was a no-brainer for me.

 

There're some photos here (https://goo.gl/photos/6JqpmqVnEJafoFxz8) if anyone is interested.

 

[jimmay3]

Really wanting to build/buy a standard body Williams cabinet (Late 80's-90's), but really just can't find any plans dimensions/plans (inches), any help with this?

 

Want to be able to purchase standard rails, legs and other parts for an easy build that looks authentic.

 

Looking easier to buy a dead machine and gut it, but hate to kill a machine over it.

[kiwiBri]

I went for a 'widebody' build (actually, slightly wider than a normal w/b) for the same reasons that a few have posted already: no 'dead space' in the cabinet as the 46" TV fills the space nicely.

 

I also am lucky enough to have the room for a full-size build so it was a no-brainer for me.

 

There're some photos here (https://goo.gl/photos/6JqpmqVnEJafoFxz8) if anyone is interested.

 

 

 

 

hi, nice build. Do you have a build log? or details on how you mounted your screen? I like the way the machine opens up

Edited by kiwiBri, 02 June 2016 - 01:28 AM.

[greeze]

@KiwiBri:

Thanks for the compliment! Sorry though, I don't have a build log or any pictures of the process. The TV is mounted onto a 18mm MDF 'back-board' using its VESA bolt holes. The backboard is on two pivots (actually two small Meccano trunnion pieces - perfect for the task) and simply lifts up and down, much like a real pinball playfield.. 

 

 

I wanted this ease of access to the internals and this was the primary reason I extended the width of the cabinet (not by much - 20mm approx). 

 

Sorry I can't be of more help...

[kiwiBri]

@KiwiBri:

Thanks for the compliment! Sorry though, I don't have a build log or any pictures of the process. The TV is mounted onto a 18mm MDF 'back-board' using its VESA bolt holes. The backboard is on two pivots (actually two small Meccano trunnion pieces - perfect for the task) and simply lifts up and down, much like a real pinball playfield.. 

 

 

I wanted this ease of access to the internals and this was the primary reason I extended the width of the cabinet (not by much - 20mm approx). 

 

Sorry I can't be of more help...

 

 

 

Thanks for the reply. I missed it earlier!  Been doing a LOT of planning over the past few months and still struggling with Std vs Widebody. Looks like I maybe able to get an old Williams Widebody cab, so I guess that's the deciding factor there . I was looking to put in a 42" playfield monitor  as then I can hinge the TV on a frame rather than routing a channel. Would mean I could also adjust the TV if needed later.

Do you have any photos of the hinge and how its connected to the frame?

Edited by kiwiBri, 27 May 2016 - 04:55 AM.

[greeze]

If you zoom in on this photo: https://goo.gl/photos/HNcmDiyxH6E2PD6t9, you can just about make it out. 

[kiwiBri]

If you zoom in on this photo: https://goo.gl/photos/HNcmDiyxH6E2PD6t9, you can just about make it out. 

 

 

ah ha! thanks!   So the bolt doesn't go all the way through the side??

[greeze]

Nope. I used an M6 threaded insert. That gets screwed into the inside of the cabinet wherever you want the pivot to be. Then, I used an M6 set screw (20mm long) to secure the Meccano piece in place. I also put a nylon washer between the Meccano piece and the side of the cab to prevent the hinge from rubbing on the inside of the cab.

 

[ScottyVH]

Nope. I used an M6 threaded insert. That gets screwed into the inside of the cabinet wherever you want the pivot to be. Then, I used an M6 set screw (20mm long) to secure the Meccano piece in place. I also put a nylon washer between the Meccano piece and the side of the cab to prevent the hinge from rubbing on the inside of the cab.
 

Could you post an up-close picture of this?

[fiatbravodriver]

I have a quick question. I am starting a build based on a data east lockdown bar.

 

• Does anyone know if a Data East Cabinet is the same size as a Williams narrow body (standard) Cabinet?
• Or even better does anyone have any metric plans for a Data East Cab?

 

I have the plans for a Wide body Cab just trying to work out what size for the Data East.

 

Kind Regards

James

[Noah Fentz]

Hi James,

Standard body cabinets are 22" wide, and widebody are 24.75" wide.

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[greeze]

 

Nope. I used an M6 threaded insert. That gets screwed into the inside of the cabinet wherever you want the pivot to be. Then, I used an M6 set screw (20mm long) to secure the Meccano piece in place. I also put a nylon washer between the Meccano piece and the side of the cab to prevent the hinge from rubbing on the inside of the cab.
 

Could you post an up-close picture of this?

 

Sorry, not at the moment. We moved house recently and the cab is still wrapped up and stored away waiting for me to convert our garage to a games room.