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[StevOz]

Linux...lol...comical. That is a welfare OS that truly has zero mainstream support. Once Windows XP goes to free, unsupported yes, but free...you really have zero reason to Linux. I mean honestly, Linux had its day but today's builds all moving to x64 and OSs under $100', why waste time on Linux which is a still way to complex to make work with any software that matters today...or drivers for video cards for that matter. Meh.

 

Uber or is that umber?

 

I suppose Android is insignificant then?

 

Google?

 

PC decline?

 

Really?

[s1500]

Linux...lol...comical. That is a welfare OS that truly has zero mainstream support. Once Windows XP goes to free, unsupported yes, but free...you really have zero reason to Linux. I mean honestly, Linux had its day but today's builds all moving to x64 and OSs under $100', why waste time on Linux which is a still way to complex to make work with any software that matters today...or drivers for video cards for that matter. Meh.

 

There's no guarantee, or even any indication that XP is going to be free. While I don't use Linux as a deskop OS, it still makes a great server. I'm surprised on your stance about Linux considering Visual Pinball. 

[MTPPC]

Linux...lol...comical. That is a welfare OS that truly has zero mainstream support. Once Windows XP goes to free, unsupported yes, but free...you really have zero reason to Linux. I mean honestly, Linux had its day but today's builds all moving to x64 and OSs under $100', why waste time on Linux which is a still way to complex to make work with any software that matters today...or drivers for video cards for that matter. Meh.

It seems pretty obvious that you are not familiar enough with the state of development of the various distributions to be a legitimate critic of Linux. I'm using Ubuntu Lucid right now and have since it was released. I have installed Linux Mint 14 on several computers and it just works. When I need to use a OS dependent package, I have crossover or a plethora of virtual machine packages to satisfy that need. BTW, nvidia drivers are mature and Linux Mint contains pretty much every closed source package needed for everyday use.

[Zablon]

Windows 3.1 all the way!

[Jose Sinclair]

using an Acer notebook with just 2g ram, cost $120, and an acer 1261 projector (3d ready!) on my wall and doing tv, movies, computer and games at 110 inches.. the acer is rated to 200 inches, or 16.5 feet.. I will never be able to afford a monitor even 60 inches, and the projection is very bright and clear enough (the monitor image is the best, but the wall image is about like my Sony tv..)

 

you really don't need all that RAM and all. I'd be better off w 4g ram as a few heavyweight tables can cause stutter unless I lower some attributes, but 98% of the tables in both VP and FP run fine (ALL the tables in FP run fine.. VP must be doing something like Windows does: DRAGS a CONCRETE BLOCK behind the TRUCK DRIVING THE CPU whether it needs the concrete or not.. when I was a developer in CA an MSoft employee told me that one, it seemed very appropriate.. just compare IExx to Chrome as a browser.. dunno what FP does, aside from handle flippers like they should: with a myriad of templates, but it's a lot smoother running w no tweaks.. then again, I'm using my Netbook and not my desktop

 

.. keep it rollin! --- the JMan..

[Replay]

I still run Windows 7 X64 here

[darek89]

boys of the forum as I can dump me for my Jurassic Park pinball window 7? give me a help 

[druadic]

I have a dual boot system; Windows XP sp3 with PC Linux OS KDE 2011. I'll NEVER update to Windows 7 or 8 as I've used them both and they're nightmares.

 

I'll just stick with the simplicity of Windows XP. Works for me.

 

I look at it this way; I have the best of both worlds. I LOVE Linux since it uses 1/4 the memory Windows does, but some programs don't work well under it. So that's why I have both.

Edited by druadic, 13 January 2014 - 07:54 PM.

[DJRobX]

I started my cab with WinXp but had a lot of stutter. The whole system isn't that bad but not a "monster". I switched over to win7 64bit just

to see if there is some speed improvement...and man wow the graphic card drivers are mucht better optimized for that OS. No stutter at all even

on the "big" tables like Star Wars Trilogy, Big Bang Bar or Creatures form the Black Lagoon... so my advice is: use win7 64bit if you have a more

or less up to date system and forget WinXp.

 

On my system, VP DX7 does not run well under Win7 or Win8.   It seems like any table that uses the modern primitive features got very poor framerates.    Under XP, the same poor performing tables on the same hardware will have framerates that are at least 3x higher. 

 

However, the DX9 version, the tables turn, and Win8.1 is clearly faster and more stable than XP.    The XP drivers for my NVidia GTX 650ti are also buggy.   We were able to work around one glaring problem (unable to create 1x1 textures), but I would sometimes get freezing under DX9 that was completely eliminated under Win7 or Win8.   XP also has annoying start-up delays and issues with VPInMame on a 3 screen setup, where I intermittently can't use DirectDraw or Direct3D modes.  

 

I also noticed that B2S takes a bigger hit on performance under XP.   Under Win8 or Win7 it doesn't seem to much matter what the B2S is doing, my table performance stays good.   Under XP, some backglasses cause stutter. 

 

Win7 had an annoying delay exiting tables on HyperPin.   Under Win8.1 the table exits just as fast as it did on XP. 

 

So I definitely think it's time to forget XP, once the DX9 port is finalized.

[MTPPC]

Linux...lol...comical. That is a welfare OS that truly has zero mainstream support. Once Windows XP goes to free, unsupported yes, but free...you really have zero reason to Linux. I mean honestly, Linux had its day but today's builds all moving to x64 and OSs under $100', why waste time on Linux which is a still way to complex to make work with any software that matters today...or drivers for video cards for that matter. Meh.

I think this is probably the most misinformed statement I've seen on this board. In fact, I think there's someone who recently got VP running perfectly with wine. Lubuntu and Mint are my distributions of choice and they do absolutely everything I need a computer for.

[DinerGofer]

If I was to have my own Visual Pinball cabinet (which I hope to have in the future), I would run Windows XP because it uses less RAM that the amount Windows 7 uses (I have nothing against Windows 7, BTW. It's a good OS, too.)

[The Loafer]

If you decide to have a vpin cabinet, then windows 7 is a better choice if only because it has better dx9 drivers and that is the new "present and future" for VP. When the dx11 VP comes out sometime in the future, xp support will officially become even more problematic. Don't worry about the OS using more ram, unless you are trying to run VP in a cabinet pc with just 1 gig of ram. If that is the case that person has more worries because that pc is way too underpowered, never mind the ram issue.

[Fratazzo]

Dual boot (XP sp3 and 7 Ultimate x64) on my cab, once 'tricked' a bit Seven runs like a charm, but some troubles with Hyperpin that XP doesn't have.

Some problems on XP with the Nvidia drivers, none with Seven.

[ViriiGuy]

I just reformatted my Cabinet a couple weeks ago and installed Windows Server 2012 R2 as the OS.

WOW!! It is fast! Boots to the desktop after minor tweaking in 11 seconds. And everything is working perfectly on it.

[Joe]

I just reformatted my Cabinet a couple weeks ago and installed Windows Server 2012 R2 as the OS.

WOW!! It is fast! Boots to the desktop after minor tweaking in 11 seconds. And everything is working perfectly on it.

you have a good key and have working  activation on that?

[penrhos]

To be on the safe side I've been stripping the COA's off any dead PC's at work that are being sent for recycling - I've got a nice stockpile of Windows XP Pro, Vista Business and Windows 7 Professional ones now so when I build the VP PC I'll have plenty of choice and won't have to install Windows 8....

 

Pity HP don't do Windows 7 drivers for my laptop or I'd ditch Windows 8.1.

 

The test build for my VP PC using my MSDN license boots into W7 in about 7 seconds and I think I might be able to get it a bit quicker (I'm thinking of swapping the o/s to a raid-0 stripe of 2 * 64 Gig SSD's I have lying around) - but I'm not sure that would give me enough disk space for my favourite tables. 

[Joe]

To be on the safe side I've been stripping the COA's off any dead PC's at work that are being sent for recycling - I've got a nice stockpile of Windows XP Pro, Vista Business and Windows 7 Professional ones now so when I build the VP PC I'll have plenty of choice and won't have to install Windows 8....

 

Pity HP don't do Windows 7 drivers for my laptop or I'd ditch Windows 8.1.

 

The test build for my VP PC using my MSDN license boots into W7 in about 7 seconds and I think I might be able to get it a bit quicker (I'm thinking of swapping the o/s to a raid-0 stripe of 2 * 64 Gig SSD's I have lying around) - but I'm not sure that would give me enough disk space for my favourite tables. 

Raid 0 on SSD is some what risky and most MB's have that software fake raid.

 

Just use 1 SSD or a SSD pci-e card.

[pedroydani]

a mi me va muy bien

[ghostmachine]

I DONT USE WINDOWS.. I USE DOORS. THEY ARE EASIER TO GET IN AND OUT OF.   

[nicco84]

Windows 8 x64 pro.... Ssd .... Best thing ever.
Fastest system ever tried.
Only problem is to shell frontend.exe instead explorer...

Want to try to win 8.1 embedded industry that has shell launcher