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B2S Backglass always on top when in exe mode, external virtual dmd won't stay on top


Best Answer wiesshund , 04 September 2021 - 01:07 AM

I've been having this issue with B2S and the virtual external dmd.  I have 2 monitors, one is above the other.  I put my backglass on the top monitor, and play the lower screen in desktop mode.  For some reason, even if I don't have the send to front option checked on the backglass, and I have stayontop set to true on in the dmddevice.ini, whenever I click back to the table after moving the virtual dmd around, it always goes behind the back glass.  The interesting thing is, this only happens when I've got B2S set to use EXE mode.  However, if I don't run it in EXE mode, I get terrible choppiness in the gameplay (not sure why this is happening either, my computer is more than powerful enough, 8700k@5Ghz, 32GB RAM, RTX 2080Ti).  If I use it in EXE mode, everything runs perfectly, I just can't position the DMD over the back glass and have it stay on top.  If anyone has run into this same issue I'd appreciate some help, I've searched around for a long time and can't find anyone that has this issue, and none of the usual suggestions I've read have helped.

 

Edit:  I should also mention, this happens no matter how I launch into a table, directly from the table itself, from the vpinballx.exe, or from a launcher (I use launchbox/big box).

 

Thanks

 

This happens when you move or resize it, or edit the style, but once you save what you wanted, if you relaunch the table, it should be back on top?

I think it does this to all of us when using External DLL (AKA Freezy's DMD extensions) but it is only while adjusting.
to fiddle with styles, i normally just drag it onto the playfield, do my style thing and relaunch the table
With VPX out of exclusive full screen of course, i put that back after i am done adjusting stuff

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#21 wiesshund

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Posted 06 September 2021 - 03:19 AM

Temco Bowl is a triple screen game, but the cab also came in small, single screen and medium 2 screen models
But if one is not using 4.3 screens, it is best to have mame run it as dual side by side gapless
Same effect as triple screens, minus the CRT bezel gaps

Xmen is single screen for both the 2 and 4 player cabinets, only the 6 player can used 2 screens, and for that on a 43" TV? i would use side by side gapless

because, again, the game assumes the screen is 4.3 or 9.7 aperture, so spanning 2 16.9 screens will mean huge black gaps between pictures, which is exactly what you do not wish to see

Mind you not all multi screen cabs are multi screen panoramic

some are 2 screen mirrored heads up, so monitor size/aperture does not matter
some are 2 screen discrete heads up so again monitor size/aperture does not matter

and some of course just used the 2nd screen for data, like punch out does
and if you flip punchout vertical, and use dual over and under you dont even need the 2nd screen

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Posted 06 September 2021 - 11:44 PM

Yeah I've seen the Sinden lightguns, they're pretty awesome, but there's a few other guys now making the same type of thing.  I even saw one where I guy rigged up some legit pulse rifles:

 

 

I'm still waiting on a lightgun solution to go with as most of them right now are on backorder and all that, and are hard to get a hold of.

 

and oh yeah there's no way I'd do 2 16:9 monitors lol, that'd be horrendous.  I'd just want something large enough to accommodate those kinds of games, I wouldn't go with a 6 player cab either, but, I could run it with 6 players and have 2 on controllers if I wanted probably.  That cab seems to be pretty rare, I've only ever seen a single one in person.



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Posted 06 September 2021 - 11:51 PM

the 6 player cab displays fine on a 16:9 screen at 43 inches
actually better in a way because there is not a 3 inch gap between screens

 

one of these days though, i am going to set up temco bowl on 3 22" 4:3 screens just because.
Ive put it on 3 14" screens but yea, 14" is not exactly impressive, unless you are going for the micro machines look


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