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[nromo]

Thank you Mr Wizard!! You guys are awesome! 

Edited by nromo, 10 April 2021 - 07:50 PM.

[wiesshund]

Wer ist herr wizard?

[nromo]

Oh, my DMD is not showing??

I'm running Attack from Mars 2.0.1 with Attack From Mars Night Mod Special Edition (Bally 1995) directb2s

Edited by nromo, 10 April 2021 - 08:20 PM.

[wiesshund]

Oh, my DMD is not showing??

I'm running Attack from Mars 2.0.1 with Attack From Mars Night Mod Special Edition (Bally 1995) directb2s

attack from mars does not have a DMD in the b2s

run table
hit F1

pick either to display vpm dmd, or use external DMD

i recommend use external DLL

and if you do not have freezys already
dmdext-v1.8.2-x86.zip

It just gets unzipped into the vpinmame folder

And in case you dont have this
FlexDMD.zip

It also goes unzipped into the vpinmame folder

and then you just run flexDMDUI once and register it (click both register buttons)

 

the tables are most likely set to HIDE the vpm DMD when in desktop orientation, most are
external DLL does not listen to that, and in general will look better anyways.

 

anyways, once you have picked use external DLL, then restart the table

 

POOF a dmd window should appear

then just drag it where you want it, drag the bottom right corner to resize it

then right click it and probably pick to save globally, then you dont have to move every single new table around
 

[mrjcrane]

Depending on which DMD method is being used for for a single screen vertically oriented cabinet, I would be using a .pov file to rotate the screen from landscape to portrait and shape it to fit the vertical. I use the FS version of the table in my cabinet and avoid FSS or Desktop mode. Wies had a lot of good examples of what FSS looks like so is a preference you may choose. Then on the DMD presentation I tend to display both Flex DMD and the Native DMD even in my cabinet. There are 2 registry settings that deal with the Native & Windows DMD (showpindmd and showwindmd). I can never figure out which one is VP native and which is for FLEX dmd but if you turn them both on you will see where they land.

 

Additionally in the registry for the rom you will have can shape and position the DMD (dmd_height, dmd_width, dmd_pos_x and dmd_pos_y.  You can set those globally or on a per rom basis and I think that can be accessed by hitting the F1 key while in the game.\

 

Good luck.

[wiesshund]

Depending on which DMD method is being used for for a single screen vertically oriented cabinet, I would be using a .pov file to rotate the screen from landscape to portrait and shape it to fit the vertical. I use the FS version of the table in my cabinet and avoid FSS or Desktop mode. Wies had a lot of good examples of what FSS looks like so is a preference you may choose. Then on the DMD presentation I tend to display both Flex DMD and the Native DMD even in my cabinet. There are 2 registry settings that deal with the Native & Windows DMD (showpindmd and showwindmd). I can never figure out which one is VP native and which is for FLEX dmd but if you turn them both on you will see where they land.

 

Additionally in the registry for the rom you will have can shape and position the DMD (dmd_height, dmd_width, dmd_pos_x and dmd_pos_y.  You can set those globally or on a per rom basis and I think that can be accessed by hitting the F1 key while in the game.\

 

Good luck.

You can not

 

B2S is not rotatable
So you have to rotate windows and leave tables not rotated

 

showpindmd - VPinMAME

showwindmd - External DLL (AKA Freezy's)

FlexDMD is it's own separate entity, those settings have 0 bearing on FlexDMD/UltraDMD

Edited by wiesshund, 10 April 2021 - 10:04 PM.

[nromo]

Mr Wizard  = weisshund

Thank you for everything! It works!!! 

Now if I could just eliminate the Back Glass and fill the whole screen with the table. And display the DMD only at the top. Is it possible to do this or not?

Edited by nromo, 11 April 2021 - 01:59 AM.

[wiesshund]

Mr Wizard  = weisshund

Thank you for everything! It works!!! 

Now if I could just eliminate the Back Glass and fill the whole screen with the table. And display the DMD only at the top. Is it possible to do this or not?

It is, but some tables only have a score in the backglass

 

you could make the backglass smaller, and increase the table size

 

But if all you want is the table and DMD and no backglass then i suggest

 

leave windows rotated

set VPX back to your normal resolution (which will be backwards cause windows is rotated of course)

set vpx to use FS backdrop settings for all tables

ANd leave exclusive full screen unchecked still

 

Now load 1 table into the editor, but do not launch it

in the backdrop settings for the table, set the FS x/y rotation to be 0 instead  of 270

hit F6, see if you need to adjust anything, probably not, but if you do, then go ahead and adjust it now, then quit back to the editor.

now click file and export and pov and export that to autopov.pov

this is so you dont have to edit 500 tables

 

once you have exported the pov as autopov.pov exit the table WITH OUT saving

 

for DMD tables, like attack from mars etc 1st time you launch one, hit F1, and check use external DLL if it isn't already

 

For a non DMD table you will probably have to open the table scrip editor and search for 

 

.Hidden

 

and what ever .Hidden says, make it say .Hidden=0 instead

 

that will at least show the vpm scoreboard, which you can drag around.

Hit F1 and just make sure cabinet mode is checked, before you start resizing it, or it wont remember anything
to resize it you have to right click it and pick show border
then resize it to that size you want, sit it in its position, and right click again and uncheck show borders
the DMD will show on top of the table
drag it and resize it and put it like on the apron or something

 

If you want those less boring, you can hit F1 and change the color (dont click the color check bot, just change the LED color)
You can also bump down the display opacity, say like to 85% or so to get a bit of transparency, it will look a bit better on the segmented LED displays

 

Fair warning
The VPM display of a segmented LED scoreboard is not pretty
pinmame displays it in a logical circuit sense, not in an aesthetic sense
It shows it how it is wired, not how someone physically stuck it inside the backbox.

Edited by wiesshund, 11 April 2021 - 07:11 AM.

[nromo]

Thanks again my friend!!! 

I'll give this a try when I get some time. 

[nromo]

All working good. I encounter various issues. Some I can figure out, some not. Having fun though, and learning!!

Thanks again! 

[wiesshund]

All working good. I encounter various issues. 

 

what issues?

[nromo]

Well, this one I having with Indiana Jones_ The Pinball Adventure (Williams 1993)_Bigus(MOD)1.0 VPX 

 

It will not load my POV file I exported and renamed. I have to manually import it every time I load table. This has never been a problem for my other tables. 

Also, I can't figure out which key activates the buy in??

Edited by nromo, 25 April 2021 - 02:22 AM.

[nromo]

Also, why does Andromeda VPX (Game Plan 1985) only give one ball?

Edited by nromo, 25 April 2021 - 02:22 AM.

[wiesshund]

Well, this one I having with Indiana Jones_ The Pinball Adventure (Williams 1993)_Bigus(MOD)1.0 VPX 

 

It will not load my POV file I exported and renamed. I have to manually import it every time I load table. This has never been a problem for my other tables. 

Also, I can't figure out which key activates the buy in??

Could be that you have more than one indiana jones table? there is a regular one and the adventure one
try renaming the table, backglass, and pov to like Indiana_Jones_Pinball_Adventure

 

I am not sure why, but some table names just dont seem to play nice, be it with a POV or a backglass etc
then i go and rename everybody, and they work

 

the table author and version info and year and manufacturer, if the author did not do it, i put it in the table info in the editor anyways
because normally i tend to keep my filenames short and without spaces once i have decided to keep a table.
Like attack from mars is just afm and aarfm for attack and revenge from mars
I have both indiana jones and indiana jones the pinball adventure that you have.
One is SternIndanaJones, the other is WilliamsIndianaJones

Not saying you have to use those names, but it seems to only look out so many places before it does not read any more of the name characters

Anyways, give renaming them (table.vps table.directb2s and table.pov) a try and see if it works

 

 

 

Also, I can't figure out which key activates the buy in??

visual pinball\scripts\vpmkeys.vbs

the buyin key for rom tables is denoted in there, and you can also change it in there

the entire top of the vbs is all comments showing you the key codes

 

 

 

Also, why does Andromeda VPX (Game Plan 1985) only give one ball?

 

I do not have that table, so i do not know

may want to ask in that table's support thread, could be someone has seen the issue before

[nromo]

LOL!

I'm an idiot! 

 

Andromeda has an F6 button that lets you select a bunch of options for the game. You can select number of balls there, up to 5 balls. It defaults to one ball strangely. 

 

And your advice worked!!! I shortened up all the file names and sure enough, that was the POV problem. Indiana Jones was stupid long! I should have thought of that! 

 

Also, the 'Buy In' key is the #2 key at top of keyboard!

If Keycode= keyFront Then Controller.Switch(12)=1 'buy-in

Had to look that up?

 

Thanks again Wiesshund!!! 

Edited by nromo, 26 April 2021 - 01:27 AM.

[wiesshund]

You can select number of balls there, up to 5 balls. It defaults to one ball strangely. 

 

 

Yea, that is not a default that i would have guessed

[nromo]

Well, everything was awesome and then I tried to install Grand Lizard and it messed up everything. Now when I load a table into editor, it automatically loads it all wrong and nothing I do fixes it unless I put it in full screen exclusive mode and then my cursor disappears every time I select a Function button. Nothing works right any more and I tried uninstalling and reinstalling Pinmame and your reg file you made me. 

[wiesshund]

Well, everything was awesome and then I tried to install Grand Lizard and it messed up everything. Now when I load a table into editor, it automatically loads it all wrong and nothing I do fixes it unless I put it in full screen exclusive mode and then my cursor disappears every time I select a Function button. Nothing works right any more and I tried uninstalling and reinstalling Pinmame and your reg file you made me. 

 

No idea what you mean by "tried to install"

 

you do not install tables, you simply put them in the tables folder, along with their backglass file, 1 .vpx file, 1 .directb2s file, that is all for grand lizard

and the tables do not make any changes to anything, so they can not mess anything up

 

So what else did you change?

And with no screen shots, we dont know what "automatically all wrong" is or means

you did download grandlizard vpx and not grand lizard vpt right?

[nromo]

Ya, I only did 42 tables. I meant set up.  

Yes it was vpx.

Edited by nromo, 09 May 2021 - 12:16 AM.

[wiesshund]

aside from putting a rom in the ROM folder

and putting a vpx and directb2s file in the tables folder, what did you do?

 

Because the above wont have any effect at all on any other tables