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[akiles50000]

Destruk maybe I have explained wrong.I want to say that he YES can read the chips prefectly.
But first he need that anyone send to him a chip of those to he can do all the tests but he have said that he yes can built a reader to read these roms.
Only he need a chip to test it and he will get read the chips I,m sure.He is he is fully convinced of it.
Also he have said to me that if you can,t send a chip of those to him if you say any web page where get one or a board system III he can buy it and do the test still get it.He have been looking for by ebay but he doens,t find nothing.

Edited by akiles50000, 01 January 2014 - 09:20 PM.

[destruk]

If he can use the same device to program a chip, we have one read from one of the roms.  He could write one, and then read it back to see if the reader is working correctly?

[akiles50000]

Destruk we are trying to get a board of System III for my friend can do all the tests.

I also have get the rom of Cavalier pinball .Also it,s of a System III:

 

http://www.mediafire...valier_roms.zip

 

Maybe you can do something with it still we get a board system III.

Edited by akiles50000, 02 January 2014 - 09:13 AM.

[destruk]

Thanks.  If you find a game for sale that has the A2361 and A2362 chips in it, I could help purchase the machine to read the chips from.  We won't be able to emulate any of the game roms without those two chips.

[akiles50000]

Destruk a friend have said this to me about system III.The system III had two versions:

 

-One in the which the RAM memory gone separated of Eprom,models that used the 1702 (Mr.Doom,Mr Evil,Cavalier,Fait Fight).

-And then release other card to incorporated the RAM memory in the own Eprom 2716.(Black Magic)

 

I want to say with this that if we have the complete rom of Black Magic pinball like the RAM memory in that pinball is recorded in the Eprom 2716 ,we can to record that RAM to all the memory of each rom of MR Doom,MR,Evil Cavalier,etc...and of this way we can have the complete .bin of each rom with RAM included.

Do you understand want I to say to you?

 

We are working in it to get them soon.

Edited by akiles50000, 07 January 2014 - 04:31 PM.

[destruk]

It sounds confusing, but if you think it's safer that way, I hope for success.

[TAB]

It's not for this thread, but

GOOD HAPPY NEW YEAR AND ALL BEST WISHES

Edited by TAB, 07 January 2014 - 04:35 PM.

[akiles50000]

Destruk very good news:
 
My friend told that there are several models of System III 
motherboards. The last models moved the roms from the 2361 and 2362 to 
an eprom 2716. And this eprom were used on several pinball models. The 
program code was joined with the 256 configuration bytes (that before 
were on an eprom 1702). We should be able to edit the binaries and 
separate the program from the configuration.

When my friend Antonio send me the dumps,another friend me will edit them 
to extract the commom code on them, which should be the programming. In 
theory there is the program code so there should not be necessary to 
dump the 2361 and 2362.
 
 
Soon if we have a bit of lucky we will get all the roms completes of system III and you can to emulate in vpimame.
He is working in it.I hope that he get it.

Edited by akiles50000, 09 January 2014 - 10:56 PM.

[destruk]

excellent!

[akiles50000]

Destruk a question:

 

Do you have the scheme of the board with the eprom 2716?

 

Now my friend needs that scheme because like did two models of boards, one with the 1702 and the two chips 2361 and 2362, that scheme he has it.

But the other model of board more modern it did with the chip 2716,that scheme he need it because he guess that the program can to be different in both boards.

 

If you have the scheme of the board with the eprom 2716 can upload it?

[akiles50000]

Destruk take a look to the last reply of my friend Carlitos_litos in this link :

http://petacos.forum...&st=15#lastpost

he has a problem with 25 bytes aren,t equals between the rom black magic and the rom of The Flipper Game.
Maybe you can help him and say it because those 25 bytes are different between both roms.

[destruk]

I don't know about that stuff - could you ask gerrit?

AFAIK those are two different games so the code should be different between them.

 

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[akiles50000]

Ok Destruk I,ll send a message to him.

[akiles50000]

Well destruk my friend Carlitos and me have buyed a complete pcb of System III used by 70 euros and he go to try read the chips A2361 and A2362 if they are fine yet.

He has opened other thread very interesting here:

 

http://petacos.forum...786764#lastpost

 

I hope that he can get it.I believe that yes he will get it.

Edited by akiles50000, 17 January 2014 - 08:16 AM.

[destruk]

Thankyou so much!  Good luck.

[akiles50000]

Destruk my friend need a version of Pinmame to linux with the fonts.

If anyone have a version that upload to this thread.

[akiles50000]

Destruk my friend have tested the system III pcb after of change some parts of it and we have good and bad news:

 

Good New:

 

The two chips importants are fine

 

Bad New:

 

The cpu doesn´t work fine because the chip LM327 is damaged and there is to change to other chip compatible.

 

Look pretty the best imnportant is that both chips are fine.We are more near of get it.

Take a look to the thread because is very interesting:

 

http://petacos.forum...&st=15#lastpost

Edited by akiles50000, 26 January 2014 - 09:34 AM.

[akiles50000]

Destruk my friend has done more tests with a new system pcb that sent a friend me and for the moment go fine.Take a look to the thread:

 

http://petacos.forum...&st=30#lastpost

 

soon he,ll get it.I,m sure

[destruk]

Great work aKiles!  Thank your friend too!

[akiles50000]

Destruk need we the roms of Galaxy Play and Galaxy Play 2 of CIC Play and  Space Ship of Cirsa or not?

Here you go pictures of Space Ship of Cirsa:

 

http://petacos.forum...052132#lastpost

 

Can you say what chips will be the roms to dump? Maybe I can to get the dump.

Edited by akiles50000, 26 March 2014 - 09:22 AM.