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[Aaron James]

I am running XP lowepg.

Great Noah, hopefully that helps him 

[Noah Fentz]

I wish I could be more help, but with all the various WIPs and configurations of HyperPin, it's not easy to support anymore.

I'll do my best, time permitting.

[lowepg]

I wish I could be more help, but with all the various WIPs and configurations of HyperPin, it's not easy to support anymore.

I'll do my best, time permitting.

 

Well, I understand that. However what I'm baffled by is the fact that it appears Aaron and I have identical software setups on our Virtua Pins(I'm using his EXACT file versions and ini files,etc) and yet my tables are crashing constantly on exit to HS....

 

Id love to point at HS too, however it seems theres something else at play...

 

You built both our systems; is there something other than your new controller that differs in the two cabinets?

Edited by lowepg, 18 June 2013 - 10:34 AM.

[Noah Fentz]

I wish I could be more help, but with all the various WIPs and configurations of HyperPin, it's not easy to support anymore.
I'll do my best, time permitting.
 
Well, I understand that. However what I'm baffled by is the fact that it appears Aaron and I have identical software setups on our Virtua Pins(I'm using his EXACT file versions and ini files,etc) and yet my tables are crashing constantly on exit to HS....
 
Id love to point at HS too, however it seems theres something else at play...
 
You built both our systems; is there something other than your new controller that differs in the two cabinets?

The controllers are identical, too. Different hardware, yes, same exact hardware profile in VP.

It has to be something else.

What table, specifically, is giving you trouble?

[koadic]

Yeah, it would help to know which table specifically (including any version number), if you are using the exe mode for the db2s, and any modifications made to table.

With the most recent core.vbs, there is no more need to add a table_exit sub if you have 'vpminit me' in the table_init section (also fixed annoying bug with possibly erroring out). If the table contains an _exit sub, then it overrides the ones in the core.vbs...

' New in 3.42 (Update by Koadic)
' - (Core Changes)
' - Minor adjustment to vpmInit to unpause controller before stopping controller
' New in 3.41 (Update by Koadic)
' - (Core Changes)
' - Modified vpmInit routine:
' Added creation of _Exit routine to vpmInit to perform Controller.Stop (will retroactively effect all tables using vpmInit call)
' Modified vpmInit to create _Paused, _UnPaused, and _Exit separately, so if any don't exist, they will be created individually
' Modified Error handling to fix bug where vmpInit might throw "Invalid procedure call or argument" error
' and cause table not to work due to improper Table_Init scripting.

Public Sub vpmInit(aTable)
	Set vpmTable = aTable
	If vpmVPVer >= 60 Then
	  On Error Resume Next
		If Not IsObject(GetRef(aTable.name & "_Paused")) Or Err Then Err.Clear : vpmBuildEvent aTable, "Paused",   "Controller.Pause = True"
		If Not IsObject(GetRef(aTable.name & "_UnPaused")) Or Err Then Err.Clear : vpmBuildEvent aTable, "UnPaused", "Controller.Pause = False"
		If Not IsObject(GetRef(aTable.name & "_Exit")) Or Err Then Err.Clear : vpmBuildEvent aTable, "Exit", "Controller.Pause = False:Controller.Stop"
	End If
End Sub

[Noah Fentz]

Yeah, it would help to know which table specifically (including any version number), if you are using the exe mode for the db2s, and any modifications made to table.

With the most recent core.vbs, there is no more need to add a table_exit sub if you have 'vpminit me' in the table_init section (also fixed annoying bug with possibly erroring out). If the table contains an _exit sub, then it overrides the ones in the core.vbs...

' New in 3.42 (Update by Koadic)
' - (Core Changes)
' - Minor adjustment to vpmInit to unpause controller before stopping controller
' New in 3.41 (Update by Koadic)
' - (Core Changes)
' - Modified vpmInit routine:
' Added creation of _Exit routine to vpmInit to perform Controller.Stop (will retroactively effect all tables using vpmInit call)
' Modified vpmInit to create _Paused, _UnPaused, and _Exit separately, so if any don't exist, they will be created individually
' Modified Error handling to fix bug where vmpInit might throw "Invalid procedure call or argument" error
' and cause table not to work due to improper Table_Init scripting.

Public Sub vpmInit(aTable)
	Set vpmTable = aTable
	If vpmVPVer >= 60 Then
	  On Error Resume Next
		If Not IsObject(GetRef(aTable.name & "_Paused")) Or Err Then Err.Clear : vpmBuildEvent aTable, "Paused",   "Controller.Pause = True"
		If Not IsObject(GetRef(aTable.name & "_UnPaused")) Or Err Then Err.Clear : vpmBuildEvent aTable, "UnPaused", "Controller.Pause = False"
		If Not IsObject(GetRef(aTable.name & "_Exit")) Or Err Then Err.Clear : vpmBuildEvent aTable, "Exit", "Controller.Pause = False:Controller.Stop"
	End If
End Sub

 

Has our hosted file been updated with these changes?

[koadic]

Yes, it's in the current vbs files available for download and has been for awhile (March? April?)

[lowepg]

 

What table, specifically, is giving you trouble?

Table(s) plural.... About 25% crash on exit back to HS....,And again, this is an identical setup that Aaron is running.

Here's just a few that crash:
Bad cats (vp915_1.1.3FS)
Cactus canyon (high noon mod, 1.05)
CC (nite mod, 1.0)
Earth shaker (2.0.1)
F14 tomca (1.01)
Funhouse (2.1.1)
Medieval madness (2.3.2)
Scared stiff
Totan (vp91x_3.4 FS)


So that's not all, but there's a bunch. I just tried loading 20 tables or so and I that's how many bombed out when trying to exit back to hyperpin.

[koadic]

All running b2s? What core.vbs are you running? Any alterations to the table scripts?

[lowepg]

All running b2s? What core.vbs are you running? Any alterations to the table scripts?

 

core.vbs 3.40

 

all b2s

[koadic]

Try 3.42

[lowepg]

Try 3.42

 

Arg... i thought that might be it. installed 3.42, badcats exited fine, and just as i was started to celebrate the next 5 tables i tried all crashed like before :-(

[zeenon]

So happy the exit function works now

 

[Noah Fentz]

What version of VP are you running? The one I set up or did you overwrite that with Aaron's setup, too?

[Aaron James]

I sent him VP 9.1.6 ...a few revisions ago. Lowepg, do you know where to find all the latest VP builds at? Search member Kodiac, and look in his signature for the link to Dropbox. I'm using the same FP launch as member in2kiss who also of course has the VirtuaPin and we are fine. It is not the latest FP launch however. At least your able to play everything ATM in plain VP program without Hyperpin , right?

Lowepg, you may want to consider doing a fresh install of the programs. Have you installed Microsoft net framework program? ( I believe that's what it was called) I remember having to install that to get normal b2s files working properly.

[uberpinball]

I sent him VP 9.1.6 ...a few revisions ago.
Lowepg, do you know where to find all the latest VP builds at?
Search member Kodiac, and look in his signature for the link to Dropbox.
I'm using the same FP launch as member in2kiss who also of course has the VirtuaPin and we are fine.
It is not the latest FP launch however.
At least your able to play everything ATM in plain VP program without Hyperpin , right?Lowepg, you may want to consider doing a fresh install of the programs.

Have you installed Microsoft net framework program? ( I believe that's what it was called)
I remember having to install that to get normal b2s files working properly.

Never trust a guy from Shelby Township.

If I were debugging this issue I'd just unplug the dmd and try the dB2S making sure you comment out any special script or files you are using for the DMD. If you can get the B2S server with dB2S to work, then try the dmd again.

Edited by uberpinball, 18 June 2013 - 11:30 PM.

[lowepg]

What version of VP are you running? The one I set up or did you overwrite that with Aaron's setup, too?

 

I tried using both Aarons HP and VP- EXACTLY the way he had it setup (since he said his was working).... the ONLY exception was I'm runing a real DMD. However, just to take that out of the equation, I copied the old non-DMD vpinmame.dll file back in to see if that made a difference and it didn't 0ther than caused my dmd not to work)

 

i think it was actually a version behind what I had already installed (VP and fplaunch).

 

Aaron,

 

Yes, installed .NET framework.... other than that- its the vanilla XP install that came with the cabinet. I know how to update the files, but that kind of defeats the purpose of using your setup that was working on (seemingly) identical hardware....

 

 

Noah,

 

Do you have a working setup that you have tested on the machines your building now that works with b2s tables? That's what I thought you were sending me to try last week....

Edited by lowepg, 18 June 2013 - 11:42 PM.

[lowepg]

Update:

 

No working solution for Hyperpin + VP + Virtua Pin.

 

But, before I started reinstalling, unplugging the DMD, etc, etc - I downloaded pinballx.

 

2 minutes to install.

uses same database xml as HP

cut/pasted media directories

reconfigured the exit key

BAM, 5 minutes total later (and 3 of those minutes was copying the video directory) I was done.

No crashing, just pinball.

 

I don't love the default "look" of the menu as much, but I suspect that's configurable.

 

Id like to get HP working still, but I'm tempted to just say "F#$% HP."

 

:-)

[Aaron James]

I'm sorry, I've racked my brain, and I can't figure the problem out. If I was close to where you live, I'd come over and try to fix, lmao I just keep thinking its something with FP launch.

[lowepg]

I'm sorry, I've racked my brain, and I can't figure the problem out.
If I was close to where you live, I'd come over and try to fix, lmao
I just keep thinking its something with FP launch.

I appreciate your help.

Noah supposedly has a working setup that he's going to send me.

When/if he does- I'll share the results.