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[Doccus]

I would like to know what the 8.1 error is all about "could not create back buffer".. Anyone?

I used to get this when I used to use vp9 to build my VP8 tables.

See in working with vp8 you cannot export sounds from the pins

 so I used to (after vp9 was made of course) use vp9 to extract clips and music

from other pins then import them into my vp8 one

but sometimes I'd by accident save the pin in vp9

(I used to have both vp9 and vp8 open at the same time)

 okay not to go into all of it now but saving a table made in vp8 with vp9

 ya' get odd crashes OR like your problem the next time I try to open it in vp8

I'd get the same error as you

Well, thing is, these were version 8 tables that were "right out of the box", so to speak.., not saved in 9x or modified in any way. I t6hink the advice to reinstall is likely correct. looks like installing 9 is responsible for the error. I did not, in fact, install 9x, but only switched to using the executable, until one day windows took it upon itself to "automatically" reinstall VP, as it tends to do sometimes when clicking on a table. Unfortunately, it accessed a 9x installer and that's when the trouble started!

[chas]

doccus #21......back buffer error is RAM.....i had BB and "off screen z" errors.....upgrading the RAM to high speed and a 1g Nvidia card stopped alot of problems.....this should be stickied or applied to the installation guided explaining what modifications are needed for this.

 

on my previous post on the last page.....have you had time to look at the 91x exe in win7 and XP?....the property tabs are not the same.....property tab options in XP are very minimul......there is no security tab and some others like in win7......maybe a new 91x is needed for XP?

Edited by chas, 18 June 2013 - 08:19 PM.

[Doccus]

Fortunately, no, it is NOT a RAM issue. I have absolutely no problem using a different virtual machine.. which is good, as they don't make faster ram than I have installed, and 8 gigs memory is the maximum i can install anyways, and have assigned 500M of video memory, which is more than adequate.

It's DEFINITELY due to the reasons I mentioned earlier, as I reinstalled 8.1 on a clean install of windows (as per advice earlier in this thread), and have no problem whatsoever..

 It's clear that installing the 9.1.5 full install was the problem. On the new install, I have noticed that the version 8x tables play much better, faster, and with no issues. Sadly there's almost no options in the preferences for 8.1, it's a very mature player, but a pretty backwards editor. also, I wish there was an easier way to tell 8x tables from 9x ones.. I guess I'm going to have to go by the dates.. it seems most 2008 and earlier tables are 8.x.. Am I right?

 

Re: property tabs.. don't need the options. I only want the games to start run and stop. It's a virtual system.. it;'s ALWAYS in a sandbox so a security tab is totally useless ;-)..

 Thanks everybody for replying..! Doc

Edited by Doccus, 19 June 2013 - 01:28 PM.

[faralos]

it seems most 2008 and earlier tables are 8.x..

yes I think vp9 was made around 2008 or 09

I think I recall cause some of the pins I made are vp8's and some are vp9's

and I started with vp around 2009 with vp8

the odd thing I am encountering is many vp8 tables

of course don't work in certain versions of vp9 especially 9.07-9.1.3

but in using the new version (vp9.1.5 or vp9.1.6)

many of those vp8's which didn't work in vp9.0.7 up to 9.1.3

do work with these newest versions (the vp9.1.5 and up versions)

[chas]

doc>>>>>Re: property tabs.. don't need the options. I only want the games to start run and stop. It's a virtual system.. it;'s ALWAYS in a sandbox so a security tab is totally useless ;-)..>>>>>

im getting vbs script "cannot open core" and "VPM nudge" errors in XP with the new update in some tables in vp8 and 9.....i found it very interesting that win7 has alot options in the 91x desktop exec but not in XP......looking for a solution because these tables need the new update for a different sized ball.....dont work at all now.......i tried to look into this myself.....opened core and uncommented the "vpm nudge" ....did not work.....so, was up?....is there a fix for the "cannot open core"  then "vpm nudge sound"  error that might follow after clicking ok to go through the errors untill it is done with the errors?