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#2221 Rawd

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Posted 25 June 2021 - 09:15 AM

 

Forgive me if this has been discussed before, or if this is already being worked on, but is there any way that ball shadows could be built into the engine, rather than having to code them for each table?

 

That would probably be terribly limiting

and also probably would save little time since most probably just copy and paste the ball shadows and the code
from one of their tool tables

 

There are so many different ways that people are doing shadows now..  Primitives, flashers, Z.height coding or no Z.Height coding, turning them off on ramps, changing how much they move side to side with the table width etc..  Then this is usually, but not always tied into a ball rolling script of some sort.  Not to mention, there are many VPX tables out there with no ball shadows at all.  I think it would be nice to have a standard shadow built directly into the engine, that acts like a shadow should, similar to ball reflection on the table (with maybe a few properties to set).  It's only a suggestion, and I wasn't sure if it had been brought up or discussed before.


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Posted 25 June 2021 - 01:55 PM

Ambient Occlusion casts a nice ball shadow. I never used to add a ball shadow since that was enough for me, but almost all the people turn off that Ambient Occlusion, so I had to add a small shadow of my own which doesn't move from side to side :)  


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Posted 25 June 2021 - 02:13 PM

@jpsalas

 

The only thing I don't like in Ambient Occlusion is the unwanted artifacts around ball and flippers.

 

It will be very cool if this issues can be solved in any way without loosing any things!



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Posted 25 June 2021 - 02:51 PM

Ambient Occlusion is much better in 10.7 than it was on 10.6. 


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Posted 25 June 2021 - 02:57 PM

Yes!

 

I like it and it is a must option for all tables!

 

I'm with vpx 10.7 last beta and see this artifacts!

 

the artifacts are more visible on all the EM tables so it is present to a lots of tables


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Posted 25 June 2021 - 05:56 PM

I've always been a shadow guy, ball shadow and flipper shadows in my eyes gives those objects depth and also grounds them to the playfield so thing dont look like they're floating... then adding even basic GI shadows can up the immersion even more.
now with the guys raytracing and baking shadows and lighting... its insane how a nice clean table can be taken to a much more realistic level and in the end it comes down to those sweet sweet shadows...

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Posted 25 June 2021 - 06:29 PM

@jpsalas and @haunfreaks

 

Your tables are awesome and beautiful!

 

Tried the lasts jpsalas Seawitch (Stern 1980) and I don't see any black round circle around ball when it reach flippers area.

 

Do you have a workaround to prevent this?



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Posted 25 June 2021 - 06:35 PM

I use flashers instead of primitives. 


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Posted 25 June 2021 - 06:42 PM

Thanks jpsalas, that's good to know!

 

I don't have your skill to do a table so if I can improve some table, I will do.


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Posted 28 June 2021 - 09:32 AM

Sorry... delete please


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Posted 29 June 2021 - 09:06 PM

@fuzzel and @toxie

 

New graphic bug found in the lastest VPX 10.7 Beta!

 

The Family Guy (Stern 2007) mini pinball upper playfield have a ball and flipper graphics glitch!

 

Only in the Mini Pinball Upper Playfield, The ball override the left flipper when is in contact.



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Posted 30 June 2021 - 06:32 AM

Are you sure you're using the latest beta build? Cause i cannot repro.



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Posted 30 June 2021 - 04:56 PM

Hi super Guys !!! I have a little problem with the FIND function in the script. I use the last beta 213.

when the case sensitive is not checked, it should be find all, for exemple : you find "open", it should find Open or OPen, or opEn... in this case it will find only open.

Really hard to find ;) ;) ;)

when the case sensitive is checked, it works fine ;)

 

Thanks in advance for all !!!! ;) ;) ;)

 

JPJ

 

PS : Sorry if it's already mentioned ;)


Edited by jipeji16, 30 June 2021 - 05:03 PM.


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Posted 30 June 2021 - 06:24 PM

Hi super Guys !!! I have a little problem with the FIND function in the script. I use the last beta 213.

when the case sensitive is not checked, it should be find all, for exemple : you find "open", it should find Open or OPen, or opEn... in this case it will find only open.

Really hard to find ;) ;) ;)

when the case sensitive is checked, it works fine ;)

 

Thanks in advance for all !!!! ;) ;) ;)

 

JPJ

 

PS : Sorry if it's already mentioned ;)

 

In my version It does work as intended. Actually it has always worked fine. Maybe something is not right in your registry.


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Posted 30 June 2021 - 07:11 PM

Hi JPS ;) It's not the first time i ear talking about registry... It works fine in 10.6 since the beginning... it's the second beta of 10.7 i try... 

I tried searching a key in the VP10 part, but i didn't see one speaking about FIND or case sensitive find...

 

If someone has the registry's key ?

 

Thanks JP for your answer ;) ;)

 

 

Praticly RESOLVE !!!!

 

Ok JP, it was the registry !!! i have deleted all entries in the Editor part all but not the Dock Windows.

 

And it works now if i write all in little letters.

If i type a big letter, and if the case sensitive is not checked, it should search for both little and big but it don't... For me it's ok like that but perhaps there is something not logical there ;) 

This test works fine in 10.6.


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Posted 30 June 2021 - 08:27 PM

Anyone having audio problems at the tables?
 
for me, the audio from the tables is strange, it seems to me that some sounds disappear from the audio track...
 
sometimes they play treble tracks, other bass tracks... it seems that the audio doesn't load completely!
 
I don't know if it could be a bug in the current version or a problem with my machine, or some other problem...rsrsrsrs
 
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Posted 30 June 2021 - 08:32 PM

Hi JPS ;) It's not the first time i ear talking about registry... It works fine in 10.6 since the beginning... it's the second beta of 10.7 i try... 

I tried searching a key in the VP10 part, but i didn't see one speaking about FIND or case sensitive find...

 

If someone has the registry's key ?

 

Thanks JP for your answer ;) ;)

is this happening in all kinds of tables? cause this is also the 1st time for me that i hear about such a bug.



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Posted 30 June 2021 - 08:41 PM

 

Hi JPS ;) It's not the first time i ear talking about registry... It works fine in 10.6 since the beginning... it's the second beta of 10.7 i try... 

I tried searching a key in the VP10 part, but i didn't see one speaking about FIND or case sensitive find...

 

If someone has the registry's key ?

 

Thanks JP for your answer ;) ;)

is this happening in all kinds of tables? cause this is also the 1st time for me that i hear about such a bug.

 

yes Toxie, 

as i modified my answer :

 

Praticly RESOLVE !!!!

 

Ok JP, it was the registry !!! i have deleted all entries in the Editor part all but not the Dock Windows.

 

And it works now if i write all in little letters.

If i type a big letter, and if the case sensitive is not checked, it should search for both little and big but it don't... For me it's ok like that but perhaps there is something not logical there  ;)

This test works fine in 10.6.

 

Toxie ? perhaps could you give us the name of the entry in the registry for deleting only one ?


Edited by jipeji16, 30 June 2021 - 08:48 PM.


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Posted 01 July 2021 - 06:56 PM

 

 

Hi JPS ;) It's not the first time i ear talking about registry... It works fine in 10.6 since the beginning... it's the second beta of 10.7 i try... 

I tried searching a key in the VP10 part, but i didn't see one speaking about FIND or case sensitive find...

 

If someone has the registry's key ?

 

Thanks JP for your answer ;) ;)

is this happening in all kinds of tables? cause this is also the 1st time for me that i hear about such a bug.

 

yes Toxie, 

as i modified my answer :

 

Praticly RESOLVE !!!!

 

Ok JP, it was the registry !!! i have deleted all entries in the Editor part all but not the Dock Windows.

 

And it works now if i write all in little letters.

If i type a big letter, and if the case sensitive is not checked, it should search for both little and big but it don't... For me it's ok like that but perhaps there is something not logical there  ;)

This test works fine in 10.6.

 

Toxie ? perhaps could you give us the name of the entry in the registry for deleting only one ?

 

I cannot explain this behavior at all unfortunately. To all my knowledge there is no registry entry in VPX for this, i also could not find anything related.

And even if, as for the search itself, we use standard windows functionality, and there is no configuration/parameters to actually enforce your described behavior (just checked again).

So i have no clue.  :/



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Posted 01 July 2021 - 10:47 PM

 

 

Hi JPS ;) It's not the first time i ear talking about registry... It works fine in 10.6 since the beginning... it's the second beta of 10.7 i try... 

I tried searching a key in the VP10 part, but i didn't see one speaking about FIND or case sensitive find...

 

If someone has the registry's key ?

 

Thanks JP for your answer ;) ;)

is this happening in all kinds of tables? cause this is also the 1st time for me that i hear about such a bug.

 

yes Toxie, 

as i modified my answer :

 

Praticly RESOLVE !!!!

 

Ok JP, it was the registry !!! i have deleted all entries in the Editor part all but not the Dock Windows.

 

And it works now if i write all in little letters.

If i type a big letter, and if the case sensitive is not checked, it should search for both little and big but it don't... For me it's ok like that but perhaps there is something not logical there  ;)

This test works fine in 10.6.

 

Toxie ? perhaps could you give us the name of the entry in the registry for deleting only one ?

 

 

I would try backing up and then deleting the entire editor section, see if that helps

 

I would also suggest opening notepad and see if you maybe have same behavior as VPX uses the same windows function for search that notepad uses

it does not use its own search routine


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