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#181 Drybonz

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Posted 03 September 2016 - 11:09 PM

Hey Josh... the .ahk file shouldn't be increasing your overall load time.  It's basically just a little command that calls the PF screen to the front by "name" after everything is loaded.  You may be getting slower load times with fullscreen, in general, though.  The load time for tables when using PinballX always seems a bit slower to me, especially the first table I open for some reason.  57 seconds seems pretty high to me, but I don't know all the details about your system, etc...



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Posted 08 September 2016 - 06:34 AM

PinballX should automatically take care of this now.
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Posted 08 September 2016 - 07:36 AM

Wow Tom!

This sounds awesome.
Especially as the .ahk nor the delay
Build in in the beta of 10.2

Can't wait to try this!

Thanks

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 08:17 AM

PinballX should automatically take care of this now.

 

Thanks for adding this.  It doesn't seem to work for tables that load slowly.  Is there a way to disable it if we want to continue to use Atarian's method?  Nothing seems to work as well as that method.



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Posted 08 September 2016 - 10:59 AM

Think I have it nailed now. Please try.

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 12:51 PM

Hey,

Where can I get the Beta? I need to make sure the automatic focusing is disabled in PinballX if it is enabled in VP 10.
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Posted 08 September 2016 - 12:54 PM

Here you go Sir http://www.vpforums....e=1#entry350690

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 01:00 PM

Thanks. Done.

I do think it is better an external app or script controls this such as PinballX as it will be more accurate.
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Posted 08 September 2016 - 01:13 PM

Thanks. Done.

I do think it is better an external app or script controls this such as PinballX as it will be more accurate.

 

I'm curious as to why you think that?  Not agreeing or disagreeing but honestly curious.



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Posted 08 September 2016 - 01:16 PM

Great work Tom! 

 

All we need now is a solution to the ddraw issue.  I've spent more time that I'd like to admit getting the DMD to fit perfectly in the space that I set on my third screen, so the black bars and smaller DMD size is a no go for me personally (unless I'm just being dumb and there already is a solution?).



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Posted 08 September 2016 - 01:21 PM

Thanks. Done.

I do think it is better an external app or script controls this such as PinballX as it will be more accurate.

 
I'm curious as to why you think that?  Not agreeing or disagreeing but honestly curious.

Well if its done within VP 10 it can't properly detect what is going on so easily such as if the backglass has loaded. It could potentially check if it has focus or not and act accordingly but it does not know what the user wants it to do with itself. ie. The user may be alt-tabbing in windows for other reasons.

Wheras PinballX or a script is for a specific purpose and knows exactly what the user wants to do with Visual Pinball.
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Posted 08 September 2016 - 02:38 PM

Great work Tom! 
 
All we need now is a solution to the ddraw issue.  I've spent more time that I'd like to admit getting the DMD to fit perfectly in the space that I set on my third screen, so the black bars and smaller DMD size is a no go for me personally (unless I'm just being dumb and there already is a solution?).

I've used the SetDMD program to set all of my DMDs in batch.

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 05:24 PM

 

 

Thanks. Done.

I do think it is better an external app or script controls this such as PinballX as it will be more accurate.

 
I'm curious as to why you think that?  Not agreeing or disagreeing but honestly curious.

 

Well if its done within VP 10 it can't properly detect what is going on so easily such as if the backglass has loaded. It could potentially check if it has focus or not and act accordingly but it does not know what the user wants it to do with itself. ie. The user may be alt-tabbing in windows for other reasons.

Wheras PinballX or a script is for a specific purpose and knows exactly what the user wants to do with Visual Pinball.

 

 

Tom, have you looked at Atarian's ahk script earlier in this thread (page 2 or 3 I think)?  It works very well.  I was wondering if you based your method in PBX on this.


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Posted 08 September 2016 - 11:18 PM

Think I have it nailed now. Please try.

v 2.27

 

 

 

Hmmmm. I gave the new PBX 2.27 a go, and I still have the same issue with (many) dB2S files not loading when launching VPX tables when using exclusive full screen in VPX (they load fine outside of PBX). This was using the internal Visual Pinball support.

 

If I use a "custom" "other" system for VPX in PBX, then "most" of the DB2S files load fine. Only Monster Bash, Demolition Man, and Walking Dead have issues.



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Posted 08 September 2016 - 11:30 PM

Those are big tables. Maybe reduce the resolution on some images?

And we deny TWD here.


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Posted 09 September 2016 - 01:26 AM

Those are big tables. Maybe reduce the resolution on some images?

And we deny TWD here.


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...I meant...The Crawling Babies table...that's it!  

 

Forgot about that...

 

 

I'm not worried about those specific backglasses...  DB2S files are on the bottom of my priority list, and will be the first to be sacrificed to get something else to work properly.  I was just updating Tom with the result of the newest PBX.



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Posted 09 September 2016 - 09:54 AM

I will try to do some testing with those tables. With the latest release of PinballX it wont use the feature if you are have the switch setting in VP 10 enabled. So be sure to turn that off.

I did have a look at the script and got some ideas form it. It does something very similar now. Thanks. Tom.
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Posted 09 September 2016 - 10:17 AM

Works great for me Tom.

Although some b2s backglasses won't show up. The ones smaller in size does so I guess I have to revert from the super HD ones.

Or do anyone have a solution for this?

Thanks again!

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Posted 09 September 2016 - 11:43 AM

If you guys can make it easy for me with links to the stuff that is not working I can test here.

Thanks,
Tom.
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Posted 09 September 2016 - 11:47 AM

 

Great work Tom! 
 
All we need now is a solution to the ddraw issue.  I've spent more time that I'd like to admit getting the DMD to fit perfectly in the space that I set on my third screen, so the black bars and smaller DMD size is a no go for me personally (unless I'm just being dumb and there already is a solution?).

I've used the SetDMD program to set all of my DMDs in batch.

 

Aren't you still limited on the overall size of the DMD still when ddraw is set to 0?