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[moogster66]

I am trying to rotate the table from 270 to 90 degrees. The manual states to click backdrop, click options, and set xy rotation from 270 to 90. I tried this but nothing happens. The table I am trying to rotate is Flash Gordon. The monitor is set into the cabinet so i need the screen to rotate. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[destruk]

I am trying to rotate the table from 270 to 90 degrees. The manual states to click backdrop, click options, and set xy rotation from 270 to 90. I tried this but nothing happens. The table I am trying to rotate is Flash Gordon. The monitor is set into the cabinet so i need the screen to rotate. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

If it is Scapino's Flash Gordon, backglass decals don't rotate with the table. You'll need to rotate the decal as well any any and all emreel image frames.

[rdeejay]

You've got your work cut out for you if you're trying to rotate scapinos

Edited by rdeejay, 11 January 2010 - 05:19 AM.

[Rawd]

Moogster. I also originally had the bottom of my LCD on the RIGHT (wrong) side of the cabinet.

I tried flipping the screen with Windows/Nvidia/iRotate software and nothing worked.

I ended up physically flipping my TV. It took a bit to do that, but now everything runs nice.

[tankfmk]

I am trying to rotate the table from 270 to 90 degrees. The manual states to click backdrop, click options, and set xy rotation from 270 to 90. I tried this but nothing happens. The table I am trying to rotate is Flash Gordon. The monitor is set into the cabinet so i need the screen to rotate. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I just did this with back to the future after reading your post. Set it to "0" from 270

[Bob5453]

I am trying to rotate the table from 270 to 90 degrees. The manual states to click backdrop, click options, and set xy rotation from 270 to 90. I tried this but nothing happens. The table I am trying to rotate is Flash Gordon. The monitor is set into the cabinet so i need the screen to rotate. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I just did this with back to the future after reading your post. Set it to "0" from 270

Why did you do that? You can simply download a horizontal version of Back To The Future. Here's a link to it for a Horizontal table. Vertical tables are meant to be played on a monitor turned and Horizontal tables or Desktop tables are meant to be played on a normal desktop setup.

http://www.vpforums....u...l&f_id=5191

[AndersL]

I am trying to rotate the table from 270 to 90 degrees. The manual states to click backdrop, click options, and set xy rotation from 270 to 90. I tried this but nothing happens. The table I am trying to rotate is Flash Gordon. The monitor is set into the cabinet so i need the screen to rotate. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I just did this with back to the future after reading your post. Set it to "0" from 270

Why did you do that?

The previous tablemaker who asked that question got a friendly question from me wether or not he was going to release a non-rotated version of one of his FS tables, that's why.

BTF was not the best example maybe, but many/most new tables released are FS only sadly.

[xenonph]

WILL THIS WORK TO CONVERT FS TABLES INTO DESKTOP TABLES?

THERE ARE ALOT OF TABLES THAT ARE FS ONLY AND DONT HAVE A DESKTOP VERSION.

IF THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO DO, IT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT I FEAR THAT THERE IS PROBABLY MORE TO IT, TO GET EVERYTHING TO WORK PROPERLY. OR IS THIS ALL YOU NEED TO DO TO CONVERT TO DESKTOP?

[TheLoneWolf_Va]

I just tried this with a FS version of jack*bot.. What I did was switch rotation from 270 to 0, then I had to duplicate the zoom factors from another table by someone else to get it to fit the screen right...  It's looking like its trial and error, but I did sucessfully rotate Jack-Bot_White_LoadedWeapon_2.0.vpt to a desktop screen using the settings from Jack-Bot_VP91x_1.1.1.vpt as my model. works fine for me.

[mrjcrane]

Pinhead, I am interested as well on the rotation of FS tables because I like to set the default display mode on my VP cabinet to Portrait instead of Landscape. That way as I exit out to the OS for whatever reason, the OS is facing me with the correct orientation. So I can run other things on the VP cabinet like iTunes as a jukebox, MAME, ZSNES, Future Pinball, Pinball FX and Pinball Arcade on a "Portrait Oriented" monitor at the O/S level. My idea of the VP cabinet is to host a multitude of other apps & emulators on the VP cabinet other than just pinball games. Pinball FX3 has incorporated "Cabinet Mode" which allows the FX interface and the game tables to have an orientation of 0, 90, 180 & 270 degrees. I'm very much wishing for VP 10.5+ to include this kind of "Table Rotation" feature. On my cabinet I'd like to rotate the FS tables another 90 degrees.

[sliderpoint]

Pinhead, I am interested as well on the rotation of FS tables because I like to set the default display mode on my VP cabinet to Portrait instead of Landscape. That way as I exit out to the OS for whatever reason, the OS is facing me with the correct orientation. So I can run other things on the VP cabinet like iTunes as a jukebox, MAME, ZSNES, Future Pinball, Pinball FX and Pinball Arcade on a "Portrait Oriented" monitor at the O/S level. My idea of the VP cabinet is to host a multitude of other apps & emulators on the VP cabinet other than just pinball games. Pinball FX3 has incorporated "Cabinet Mode" which allows the FX interface and the game tables to have an orientation of 0, 90, 180 & 270 degrees. I'm very much wishing for VP 10.5+ to include this kind of "Table Rotation" feature. On my cabinet I'd like to rotate the FS tables another 90 degrees.

 

Myself and others also run cabs in portrait mode.  This works now, you just have to adjust each table in the backdrop settings.

 

-Mike

[xenonph]

What I would do is download a table that has the Portrait POV. Then you can export and import and use that tables POV settings for all your tables.

The Machine Bride of PINBOT by wrd1972 found here is in Portrait view.

http://www.vpforums....&showfile=12435

 

Load the table into the Visual Pinball Editor...

Click the "File" tab

Then hover mouse over "Export"

Then click Backdrop POV.

 

This will create a POV.xml file that can be saved to your documents.(Or wherever else you save things to.)

 

You can then Import this POV.xml file by using the same method except instead of Exporting Backdrop POV, you will now be Importing Backdrop POV.

 

Load your table that you are wanting to change into the Visual Pinball Editor. Then Import the POV.xml.

Try it out on one table to see if this is what you are trying to achieve. If it doesn't do what you are wanting, then DO NOT save the table after exiting.

If it is what you are looking for, save the table and move on to the next.

 

Hope this helps you.

Edited by xenonph, 20 October 2017 - 02:16 AM.

[CloudHead]

Myself and others also run cabs in portrait mode.  This works now, you just have to adjust each table in the backdrop settings.

 

-Mike

 

 

I do too run my cab in portrait mode.

It's running nice but I have to keep layback on a low value - because if I don't ball get stretched and is way bigger when in the top part of the table - which is ultra odd. Anyone knows why ?

[sliderpoint]

There are anti-stretch ball settings in the video options to try to counter that type of a problem.


-Mike

[CloudHead]

There are anti-stretch ball settings in the video options to try to counter that type of a problem.


-Mike

Wasn't that a VP9 specific solution ? I've read numerous times on the forums to not mess with this on VPX.

 

Anyway the problem is not that the ball is egg shaped (from memory it's not) - it's more that the ball is bigger at the top of the table - pretty much like if the table was upside down from a perspective point of view (like when the ball gets bigger when it comes closer to the player in most pinball videogames, but in reverse). 

 

Hence the question, I was wondering if there was any problem with VPX and Rotation=0 in portrait mode.

[sliderpoint]

Yes, cabinet anti-stretch setting\does some strange stuff.  I'm sure you could make it work with enough time and tweaking.   But both the stretch and don't stretch options work fine at 0 rotation.

[mk47]

Did anyone try Portrait mode for a 4K Display?

 

If I set Landscape in Windows, I can select 3840x2160 (FULLSCREEN) within Visual Pinbal X 10.3.1 video options.

If I set Portrait in Windows, The maximum resolution offered within Visual Pinbal X 10.3.1 video options is 1080x1920. The native solution of the display isn't offered anymore.

[BorgDog]

That's how I run mine, 4k portrait.

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[mk47]

That's how I run mine, 4k portrait.

 

So, in your setup Visual Pinball X offers 2160x3840 as option in the video settings?

[mrjcrane]

MK47, I prefer using Portrait mode for my OS at 1080x1920 because I like to run other things in the game cabinet (Like iTunes, Pinball Arcade & Pinball FX3, MAME, Console Emulators and so on where the OS faces me correctly in the cabinet). SO with the VP tables I take the Desktop games and mess with the "Background" table ratios (so they present correctly in 1080X1920 OR I take the "FS" games and flip them back to portrait. So far I have about a 50/50 success ratio with the converting the tables but seem to be getting a lot of crash messages with "Fatal error D3DERR_DEVICEHUNG" and the games freeze up. 

 

I have not tried 2160x3840 on my 4K screen because I don't think my video card supports that but will try as soon as I can figure it all out. Love portrait mode support and think a real smart way to make the cabinets multi functional. I am wishing for some better tools in Visual Pinball (future releases) to make the Rotation and Scaling a little more automated for people who want to quickly flip the tables (like Cabinet Mode on Pinball FX3). There are a lot of good VP DESKTOP tables (like JP's tables) that I will be trying to get running in my game cabinet. I'm always looking for support of the portrait oriented cabinets.

Edited by mrjcrane, 27 November 2017 - 06:53 PM.