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[cmt26]

Hi all, got an odd one.

 

I recently upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 on my rig, I had to reinstall everything and it gave me an opportunity to try the Baller installer. Everything installed correctly, made some modifications, but all my tables are loading up fine.  However, for some reason Guardians of the Galaxy will not load at all. Meaning, it will not even load in VPX so that I can attempt to even hit PLAY to officially load it. When I open it (clicking on the Table) nothing happens. VPX loads, but then silence. Usually, you see the little blue bars loading up the table and then it launches, but nothing.

 

The only thing different is Windows 10 and using Baller to install (instead of the old fashion manual way). Is there something I need to check that maybe Windows 10 is doing to that specific file and maybe not loading it? Or perhaps something Baller did not install that for some reason Guardian needs?

 

Thank you

[Karlor]

I dont know but is maybe 10.6.1 needs updating for Guardians?

[cmt26]

Hi, unfortunately, I think Baller does install 10.6.1. Wondering maybe I was on 10.6 prior, hmm. Is there a way to downgrade to check?

[Karlor]

I would download the final version or try a 10.7 but just back up what it wants to override so you can go back if you need to or something

[phlove]

Hi all, got an odd one.

 

I recently upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 on my rig, I had to reinstall everything and it gave me an opportunity to try the Baller installer. Everything installed correctly, made some modifications, but all my tables are loading up fine.  However, for some reason Guardians of the Galaxy will not load at all. Meaning, it will not even load in VPX so that I can attempt to even hit PLAY to officially load it. When I open it (clicking on the Table) nothing happens. VPX loads, but then silence. Usually, you see the little blue bars loading up the table and then it launches, but nothing.

 

The only thing different is Windows 10 and using Baller to install (instead of the old fashion manual way). Is there something I need to check that maybe Windows 10 is doing to that specific file and maybe not loading it? Or perhaps something Baller did not install that for some reason Guardian needs?

 

Thank you

got one the same problem , i saved some settings in a lower version of vpx upgraded to a newer one and this was the problem. Maybe u just download the table again and give it a try

[cmt26]

Thanks all, will try and look into upgrading or maybe overwriting my old VPX folder from my original Windows 7 hopefully tonight.

 

I was also looking for the latest version of the table, but I got a feeling it was only on vpinball (I searched and came up empty on all the other sources). So all I have is the one I downloaded 4 months ago. The funny thing is after upgrading to Windows 10 I am running into little minor tweak issues with a few tables (Jurrasic Park now won't get the ball to roll far enough to the playfield, Stranger Things DMD is solid black, Medieval Madness has a DOF solenoid it fires and holds causing it to blow a fuse, like weird stuff).

 

Surprisingly Windows 7 ran smoother..but I got stubborn (or OCD about it) and really wanted those transparent loading videos in pinup popper to work and down the rabbit hole I went! haha.

[Karlor]

That is weird, There's always something isn't there lol you whack one thing down and 2 others pop up

[cmt26]

haha..so true.

 

Well, no luck on using different versions of VPX. I'm gonna try a totally new fresh install of Windows 10 all over again. I feel like something went wrong with the OS install as I am missing some files it seems in the OS. Will back everything up again, and give it another run with a fresh install and see if that resolves some issues.

 

Maybe have a chance this weekend to do a complete overhaul (again haha).  

[Karlor]

yeah just back up the important stuff first, again lol

[stevegooner123]

I have got a problem with this table after I installed flex dmd,the dmd flickers now repeatedly when I use ultra dmd,I haven't got a powerful enough system to run the pup pack.

[BrandonLaw]

I have got a problem with this table after I installed flex dmd,the dmd flickers now repeatedly when I use ultra dmd,I haven't got a powerful enough system to run the pup pack.

Turn the dmd videos off in the script.

[Friffy1]

Just tested.  No issue loading/playing it w/ Win10 using 10.6.1 or 10.7.

[cmt26]

Ok cool, something tells me its my windows 10 install, it has been funny, maybe due to upgrading from windows 7. Will do a fresh install and report back, hopefully thats the issue.

 

 

**Update

 

Bummer..no luck. Did a complete wipe and format of the drive, reinstalled windows 10 fresh, baller installer, copied Guardians table, and still nothing.

 

Friffy...are you running your VP from Baller installer Or you did the manual install? I did manual install originally when I was on Windows 7 and all tables loaded fine, but now using the Baller Installer..wonder if that is the difference?

Edited by cmt26, 14 April 2021 - 08:06 PM.

[cmt26]

To be honest I am at a complete loss. Mainly my favorite tables do not work. Total bummer. No idea why Windows 10 would have this type of impact on these tables. Very weird.

 

Guardian of the Galaxy does not even open in VPX

Stranger Things - DMD will not show at all, it is solid black

Jurassic Park - loads but the ball when launched cannot get past the chute..just lingers there trying to get to the playfield and then drops back to the plunger. So weird!

 

Ughh, driving me crazy. I need to move on and focus on the other tables that work..but it just bugs me, not sure if I can let it go..lol

[wiesshund]

To be honest I am at a complete loss. Mainly my favorite tables do not work. Total bummer. No idea why Windows 10 would have this type of impact on these tables. Very weird.

 

Guardian of the Galaxy does not even open in VPX

Stranger Things - DMD will not show at all, it is solid black

Jurassic Park - loads but the ball when launched cannot get past the chute..just lingers there trying to get to the playfield and then drops back to the plunger. So weird!

 

Ughh, driving me crazy. I need to move on and focus on the other tables that work..but it just bugs me, not sure if I can let it go..lol

 

If you did an inplace upgrade

make a backup of your pinball stuff
export the registry keys for it also
then, have windows boot to troubleshooting and RESET THIS PC
which will do a clean NON upgrade install, but it will still be registered and activated

 

In place upgrades do not always go 100% as planned, and that goes for any OS

[cmt26]

Thanks...I did originally do a Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrade..but had the issues so I figured maybe something went wrong. So I totally Formatted the HD, wiped it clean, then installed Windows 10 cleanly. So no old windows 7 files or anything.

 

I used Baller Installer (only other different thing I did from my original cabinet...as I did manual install back then for all the files). I copied the Table files over from backup...loaded them up, and had the same weird issues for these three tables (could be more issues on other tables, but these are my favorite out of the 30 I have and thus messed mainly with these first). 

 

That is why I am scratching my head why these weird behaviors, I mean really weird on Jurassic Park and the fact the Ball cannot leave the chute area...floats like it's on a bed of air.

 

I am thinking my only other option is a complete Format again, then go old school and do a manual install of Visual Pinball? Could it be something goofy with the Baller installer?

 

Or are you referring to doing something else in regards to the registry keys?

 

Thanks

[wiesshund]

I do not know anything about the baller installer, i do not use it

 

First i prep windows with this Visual C++ Redistributable Runtimes All-in-One

updates all runtimes in 1 shot.

 

Windows 10 takes can of .net framework on it's own, so just be sure it has all updates

 

VPX installer will run the directX 9.0c install for you, so no need to manually do that.

i go here VPX installer  and get the vpx6setup.zip

I run that installer, which is 10.6.0

 

Then i grab the update here Visual Pinball X (Standalone EXE)

which is the VpinballX62_minimal.zip

And that you just unzip into the existing folder, and click yes to over write all files
Now you are updated to 10.6.2

 

Then i grab freezys here dmdext-v1.8.2-x86.zip

And that i just unzip into the vpinmame folder

 

And Last i grab flexDMD FlexDMD.zip

and also unzip into vpinmame folder, then run fledDMDUI.exe and click the 2 register buttons

 

And then i am done, anything but a PUP pak table would run (and those run if you disable PUP in the script)

 

Yes, you will probably want a front end, you may also kind of want DOF framework (if you have DOF hardware)

 

But those are not required, you should be able to manually launch any table at the above point by just double clicking the VPX file in the tables folder.

and they should all work, they will pop up in desktop mode, because i have changed no settings obviously, but for the working part, that does not matter.

And once they work, the rest is gravy

[cmt26]

Awesome..yeah..I went through that many moons ago..thank you for the refresher...will print this out and follow it. Going to wipe it clean and install Windows 10, and proceed as you laid out. Like I mentioned, Windows 7 I had everything running smooth (DOF and a Few Pups), but the only issue I had was loading transparent videos for the front end (pinup)..it drove me crazy seeing that black displayed during loading (windows 7 just did not support it for some reason). Upgrading to 10 solved it..but man..now it has been a battle getting my favorite tables to work.

 

I will hopefully tackle this soon, will report back if going manual way was the solution (crossing fingers!)

[cmt26]

Weird...still the same issue. Manual install and everything.

 

It's possible my Guardians became corrupt...but the odd thing is still occurring with Jurassic Park. I accidentally loaded the table without setting cabinet mode in graphic settings, and the ball launched out of the chute and into the playfield not a problem, played great. So I got excited, then I exited and changed it to cabinet mode. And unfortunately, back to the same issue where the ball can't get out of the shoot. Odd, it's as if in desktop mode it has a shorter distance to travel, and can make it out of the chute, but in cabinet mode it can't go far enough. Weird, maybe some odd physics involved or tweaked somehow?

 

I guess I'm stuck with these issues. Maybe the tables will eventually be reuploaded out there and I can try redownloading them. Maybe they became corrupt in some odd way when I backed them up.

 

Thanks all for the help! I really appreciate it!

 

But I am stumped.

[Outhere]

Weird...still the same issue. Manual install and everything.

 

It's possible my Guardians became corrupt...but the odd thing is still occurring with Jurassic Park. I accidentally loaded the table without setting cabinet mode in graphic settings, and the ball launched out of the chute and into the playfield not a problem, played great. So I got excited, then I exited and changed it to cabinet mode. And unfortunately, back to the same issue where the ball can't get out of the shoot. Odd, it's as if in desktop mode it has a shorter distance to travel, and can make it out of the chute, but in cabinet mode it can't go far enough. Weird, maybe some odd physics involved or tweaked somehow?

 

I guess I'm stuck with these issues. Maybe the tables will eventually be reuploaded out there and I can try redownloading them. Maybe they became corrupt in some odd way when I backed them up.

 

Thanks all for the help! I really appreciate it!

 

But I am stumped.

https://vpuniverse.c...-of-the-galaxy/

Edited by Outhere, 15 April 2021 - 06:23 AM.